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Stabitha posted:I think that one would be disqualified for not being an American crime. Well, it's a couple continents too.
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If he listened to the portions where fuhrman mentions his wife, especially disparagingly, then yes, since that could've easily affected sentencing or judicial impartiality. Since he didn't, a case could be made that it wouldn't significantly affect it, and that combined with a judge ruling that he could continue on makes it all above board as a matter of legal jurisprudence. It's also a matter of practicality. The trial had been ongoing for half a year at that point, was one of the most overexposed and overdiscussed cases in the history of law. It would be nearly impossible to find another ostensibly impartial jury, which is what a presiding judge recusal means since it'd be declared a mistrial. On top of that, you have to look at who a mistrial benefits. The defense doesn't want it because their race card/ police incompetence story only really works once, with the prosecution caught completely flat-footed and unable to respond, on top of structuring their evidentiary presentation via the single perspective of fuhrman. Invalidate fuhrman, invalidate most to all of the evidence. On the prosecution side they want a mistrial, but pushing for one could set up accusations of double jeopardy (which, literally speaking, is what the prosecution would've been trying to do) and there's still the fairly reasonable hope that they'll win based on the plurality of evidence combined with the egotistical expectation that they're going to win by default that guided every single misguided and foolhardy prosecutorial decision up to this point. So they don't want it either, not at all.
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Which is why everyone's reaction on all sides to that popping up in the Fuhrman tapes was "AW gently caress ARE YOU KIDDING ME", it made for amusing television but I bet nobody at the time was remotely amused by it. What a horrid and ridiculous coincidence. You couldn't have written most of this stuff in an original screenplay because it strains belief. No executive producer would give it the green light.
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It's funny, while watching this show I was thinking about how anyone could buy this conspiracy nonsense. Now I'm going through the the Netflix series Making a Murderer and I'm all CONSPIRACY! 
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http://www.ew.com/article/2016/07/14/american-crime-story-people-oj-emmy-nominationsquote:It’s a good day at FX and Ryan Murphy Productions. The People v. O.J. Simpson: American Crime Story was just lauded with a huge 22 Emmy nominations this morning, including Outstanding Limited Series.
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I'm really happy all the leads got nominated. Travolta is the only one that probably doesn't deserve it, but I liked his character more than others.
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GonSmithe posted:I'm really happy all the leads got nominated. Travolta is the only one that probably doesn't deserve it, but I liked his character more than others. I feel like Cuba probably doesn't really deserve it either, but Sarah Paulson/Courtney B. Vance/Sterling K. Brown all definitely do.
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I thought Cuba was awful and the actual O.J. doc only highlighted just how terrible of a casting choice he was. Hopefully he doesn't take votes away from Vance and Schwimmer/Travolta don't take them away from Brown.
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Made in America made it clear that Dwayne Johnson should've been OJ. Maybe he can be in 20 years.
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computer parts posted:Made in America made it clear that Dwayne Johnson should've been OJ. For all we know, he may have been offered it and declined.
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Cuba's a good actor, but he wasn't a great OJ. Not his fault, mind you, OJ's just a big, imposing dude with a really deep voice that Cuba just can't replicate. I was thinking the other day that Carl Weathers might have been decent. He doesn't look a lot like OJ either but at least he has a physical presence that I think Cuba was lacking. ninjahedgehog fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Jul 16, 2016 |
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ninjahedgehog posted:Cuba's a good actor, but he wasn't a great OJ. Not his fault, mind you, OJ's just a big, imposing dude with a really deep voice that Cuba just can't replicate. What about Terry Crews in a very subtle fatsuit? Nothing too imposing, just some light prosthetics to add a little chub to his cheeks.
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ninjahedgehog posted:Cuba's a good actor, but he wasn't a great OJ. Not his fault, mind you, OJ's just a big, imposing dude with a really deep voice that Cuba just can't replicate. drat, you're right that would be interesting. I would have loved to see Carl Weathers get an award bait role like that at this point in his career too.
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Yes, they definitely should've cast a 68-year-old to play a man in his late 40s.
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Henchman of Santa posted:Yes, they definitely should've cast a 68-year-old to play a man in his late 40s. Hello, I have every teen role ever on the line.
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McSpanky posted:Hello, I have every teen role ever on the line. There's a reason that happens often for teen roles and rarely for adult ones. It's also something that's frequently annoying and distracting. Carl Weathers would be great at playing modern O.J., but he can't pass as middle aged. Also the oldest actors playing teens are usually still in their 20s, with some exceptions that are always extremely obviously not even close.
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I know, but it's still a pretty silly complaint in general. If the makeup can make it work then so what? There's a lot more age shifting in adult roles than most people realize anyway.
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Henchman of Santa posted:There's a reason that happens often for teen roles and rarely for adult ones. It's also something that's frequently annoying and distracting. Carl Weathers would be great at playing modern O.J., but he can't pass as middle aged. Bianca Lawson though
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Yeah the age issue is a thing. Weathers could play older more pathetic armed robbery OJ though!
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Maybe if they make a one shot special featuring the geriatric armed robbery case?
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It could have been worse. Tyler Perry could have been half of the cast.
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Propaganda Machine posted:It could have been worse. Tyler Perry could have been half of the cast. This would have been great if Eddie Murphy was the other half of the cast
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timp posted:What about Terry Crews in a very subtle fatsuit? Nothing too imposing, just some light prosthetics to add a little chub to his cheeks. That would have been pretty awesome I think. Crews has the energy of a psychotic killer down pat.
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This has been known since January http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/fxs-american-crime-story-season-851993
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I think the news is Murphy may not actually be writing S2, which is good loving news to me. That's been my concern ever since the first season ended. Just keep the man directing and working with the actors.
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Thats good news since Murphy is a hack and they're def gonna need to pull something out of their rear end to make the katrina concept not absolute poo poo.
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zVxTeflon posted:Thats good news since Murphy is a hack and they're def gonna need to pull something out of their rear end to make the katrina concept not absolute poo poo. Well for me, the coolest part about Season 1 was constantly saying "wait, that actually loving happened?" So from that perspective, I've done a 180 and I think focusing on Hurricane Katrina will actually be a pretty cool story to tell.
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I have to imagine they have a better angle on "American crime" beyond "lol FEMA" and "Bush lied people died," so if they do indeed have that ace up the sleeve, it could be fantastic.
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Sarah Paulson: Watching Myself as Marcia Clark in The People v. O.J. Simpson 'Literally Made Me Ill'
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Propaganda Machine posted:I have to imagine they have a better angle on "American crime" beyond "lol FEMA" and "Bush lied people died," so if they do indeed have that ace up the sleeve, it could be fantastic. You know, I really think they might. I scoffed at first like everyone else, but thinking about OJ, it's a story that everybody knows about, but not one that everybody really knows. And I think Katrina has a bunch of those stories too. Specifically what the victims went through at the various arenas. When you really read into it, there are lot of horror stories, and putting a visual to it might be a powerful thing.
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OmegaBR posted:You know, I really think they might. I scoffed at first like everyone else, but thinking about OJ, it's a story that everybody knows about, but not one that everybody really knows. I would be pretty happy if pointing out that the American Sniper dude was a pathological liar who made up stories about murdering people during Katrina was at least a subplot.
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OmegaBR posted:You know, I really think they might. I scoffed at first like everyone else, but thinking about OJ, it's a story that everybody knows about, but not one that everybody really knows. Someone else may have mentioned it earlier in the thread, but 'Shake the Devil Off' is a book pertaining to two bar owners/Bf-GF couple that stayed open during the hurricane. Then the BF hacked his GF up in the bathtub and committed suicide at some point after. I'm sure THAT debacle wasn't directly related to the hurricane, but it still hits that 'what?! No goddamn way' aspect. ANother thing that stuck with me in the Katrina aftermath was an interview of a grandmother, who explained she had written her grandson's name on all of his clothes, saying that if they got separated/one of them died, they'd be able to identify him. Katrina was a goddamn horrorshow.
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