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Bonzo posted:So any video of police violence, mob violence, or any kind of protest will be banned. Basically. The way to judge how this is going to be used is simply whether or not Andy Ngo is immediately banned next time he does his thing. If not then the only purpose of this policy is to prevent things like holding cops accountable and the decentralized ID campaigns that doxxed Jan 6th insurrectionists.
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Baronash posted:In theory, they carved out an exception for posts that are “in the public interest.” Eh, while there are better places to conduct that research, Twitter is still up there for visibility. And that carve out means nothing till we see how they actually chose to enforce it.
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There Bias Two posted:I would argue that it isn't the internet per se that is the issue, but rather how the internet has been shaped by unfettered capitalism into a highly effective tool for amplifying these things. My opinion on it is that it's squarely the fault of social media content farms (facebook, twitter, youtube, etc) going all in on AI driven algorithms to maximize ad viewing. Everything they looked into told them that having hateful, scared, unhinged, and rightwing content be the forefront made them the most money, so they amplified it a thousand fold to keep people watching. Especially with facebook's leaked documents, we have real proof that they knew the damage they were doing across their platforms, studied it, studied what would happen if they turned off those algorithms (they'd lose engagement/watch time, and thus money), and chose money over anything else. Youtube still has a right wing content pipeline for new accounts and their algorithm will funnel anyone they can towards hate speech, white supremacy, and Q-style culture conspiracy unless you actively curate your own "account fingerprint" to avoid being recommended that poo poo. Even then, they'll keep trying every so often to see if you'll slip into that rabbit hole. Turn off the algorithms, and go back to the early web where you have to look for poo poo yourself, and I bet you that this poo poo disappears overnight. Hell, half the fuckers stoking these fires only care about their paychecks anyway for promoting this crap. Mr. Fall Down Terror posted:the internet equalizes all messages, left or right, valid or batshit. we're more fearful of the right gaining power but over in chudland they're equally lamenting the coming left-antifa alliance who bans meat and forces everyone to worship obama This is demonstrably false. Crain fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Dec 3, 2021 |
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Mr. Fall Down Terror posted:right, and how bad is doomerism on our side as well? or are our fears valid because we're rational people and those fuckers over there are just dumb and crazy It's simply a fundamentally different problem? Left-wing doomerism a la climate change is completely different from right-wing hate mobs going after a poll worker they think "overturned the election" because the left wing doomer can't lynch CO2 out of the atmosphere. These things can be problems without being comparable. Right wing hate propaganda creates lynch mobs and death threats for their targets, left wing doomerism creates....nihilists? Who just doom post online or otherwise withdraw from society?
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goatsestretchgoals posted:My YouTube channel is decent for just this reason. I still get random suggestions for new videos from JustAskingQuestions1488 from time to time (probably because I follow Forgotten Weapons and the algorithm thinks I like all gun stuff) but there’s a button to not suggest more videos from this channel and it works okay. Part of me wonders if having a much older account, from the early days of YouTube, changes the algorithms effects. Maybe having a decade of random meme videos from dead channels makes it unable to affect the averages for what to suggest. That said I can still tell when it thinks I'm ready to get pushed into a new rabbit hole. Watch one puzzle video to figure out a hanayama puzzle and now it thinks I want hours long bespoke puzzle "let's plays" and card trick channels. Or watch a video on how to fix a door jam and it thinks I'm looking for off grid cabin life videos about making a backwood cabin out of pallets.
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PT6A posted:It seems one of the more over-arching concerns with all these things is: uh, maybe kids should not have huge amounts of access to the internet, especially without fairly direct supervision. The internet and allowing children unfettered access to an open network where they can interact with and be influenced by strangers was always a problem. But in the old, early days of the internet it was a problem with seemingly simple solutions that were similar enough to problems parents and society has always had to deal with. Monitoring a kid at a park and monitoring a kid's activity online used to be mostly the same. See who they're talking to, make sure you have access to their accounts, lock them away from anything you don't want them seeing (or better yet, whitelist them safe options). But now? It's not just looking out for bad sites and bad actors trying to abuse your kids. The platforms themselves are the problem thanks to algorithms. Adults aren't equipped to deal with algorithm generated content pipelines. A dumb kid has zero chance. The biggest thing that can be done is to ban AI/Machine Learning content algorithms for social media. Or just in general. We do not understand the system, we do not control them, and those that operate them don't even take the obviously moral action even when they do their own studies and show their product literally increases child suicides and depression. Get the gently caress rid of it.
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Found a somewhat interesting intersection of "Tech Nightmare", "AI Generated Monsters", and "Rent seeking based on AI Generated Monsters". Disney World/Land and the FastPass concept. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yjZpBq1XBE&t=3475s The video is LONG but the first hour of so is basically just going over the long history of what Disney has done with it's parks ride system, queue systems, etc over the decades. It's not super relevant unless you're interested in that so I linked to the part where we get to the tech nightmare part. TL;DR and Context: Disney Parks have had 3 major ticketing and queue systems over their lifespans: 1) The Ticket Book 2) No Ticketing System/Free-for-all and 3) FastPass systems. Since the introduction of the various FastPass systems customers to the parks have "perceived" that ride times have gotten longer and it's harder to actually ride anything since ride times are always so high. But customer perception and hard tracking data of crowd dynamics, ride capacity, and queue systems (as reported by Disney) say that the average wait time is actually lower. The channel decided to actually hire an industrial engineer to model the parks data in a simulation to test the various ticket systems and see what the reality was. Turns out: The current iteration of FastPass+ and the "Genie and Genie+" system does, kinda, sorta, "normalize" wait times across the park by backfilling less popular rides. Which is a big part of the "We think it makes waits longer" perception comes from. Does that mean it reduces wait times at the big ticket attractions compared to having no special ticketing system? No. At best wait times get reduced by single minutes on average. What these systems really do is take the problem that fast pass created (increasing wait times across the park) turns it into a normalized pool of customers for the AI powered "Genie" system to try and manage, to keep everything in the park at a minimum capacity level (so everything is at least a little bit "busy") and also allows them to more than DOUBLE park capacity over the last ten years. Without actually expanding the park sizes. Also the Genie+ system is a literally pay to play system for rides where you have to be pay to stay in a Disney property, plus pay for the park ticket, plus pay to USE the Genie+ system ($15 per day per person), then pay to ride the ride you want ($5-30 per person again depending on volume). So it created a class system inside of the Disney park (I mean, there already was, and still is a whole different level of class system besides this new genie thing, VIP service to skip every line, do literally anything you want is $500+ per day per person). So they created a monster to try and reduce wait times at the big attractions, ended up making everything a longer wait while not really reducing wait times at the big attractions, then instead of removing the monster decided to just make money off of trying to get around the monster. Crain fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Dec 16, 2021 |
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Baronash posted:I have the video saved to watch when I have some time, but these two statements would seem to be contradictory. If wait times remained the same after doubling the number of people in the park, then the system effectively halved the wait time. Shortest answer: It's like the line from Chernobyl. "3.6 not great, not terrible." The biggest rides were discovered to remain at full ride capacity regardless of what system was implemented. Pushing customers to maintain a higher minimum "capacity" level to the less popular rides and attractions is what allowed higher park attendance numbers. This also is what created the "AI Monster", which is to say, if you don't know the system, you get eaten by it and end up paying a lot of money to go to a park you literally cannot do anything in but shop. Slightly more complicated: The doubled park capacity does not mean everyone gets to ride any ride they want, or attraction/show. Most people will not get to ride more than 2-3 rides a day (this is the rub in the data discussed when condensed down to "percent of customer" vs "rides per day"). In older systems like the "free for all" the graph of that was flatter with customers managing to get in 4-5 rides on average and only the most dedicated or crazy organized customers could reach 10 or 11 rides a day but it capped out there (in the simulation). With the new system the data showed that over half of the customers (something like 60%) only managed to ride 1-3 rides, but some people were able to game the system to ride upwards of 30 in a day (again, simulation data). More Detailed: They massively inflated what "fastpasses" were available for during that time to account for the fact that most of the big rides are always at ride capacity and it doesn't matter if there are more or fewer guests in the park (up to certain levels obviously. If somehow there's only one dude in the park then no ride is at capacity). The park capacity number was yearly visitors. But also, there's another aspect to the fastpass system that the video goes over that I skipped over, because really, it gets very complicated. When the new fastpass+ system was introduced (the one where people staying on property got to "reserve" a certain number fast passes for rides 60 days out from their first day) the system engineers realized that there were not enough fast passes for the park's rides and that they would all be perpetually gone months ahead of the day due to this. At the time not every ride had a fastpass system applied to it. The solution? Add more fastpass rides. Still not enough. Add fastpasses to shows. Still not enough. Add fastpasses to character meets. Still not enough. Basically they could not conjure up enough fastpasses to deal with the demand. So they did some more fuckery and just added another level of "pay to play" to it.
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Baronash posted:This would be comical if it wasn't so sad how much money folks waste on these manipulative "vacations." Boy howdy are you telling me. I just finished a week at Disney World. Facing this thing head on was interesting, but ultimately I got to do pretty much everything I wanted to, though with help outside of the normal systems (Handicapped brother). However the parks did feel so much more packed than I remember even 3 years ago in our last family vacation there. And the numbers in this video seemed to line up with that. Want to hear a really weird story about Disney's "Black Market" park system? So my brother needs a wheelchair, club feet, otherwise fine, can kinda walk enough to transfer to the ride vehicles. Kinda the best case scenario for doing parks. Disney has always been an amazing place for accommodating handicapped people. They used to have a system where people who had a handicap (loosely verified,) could bring their parties to the exit of a ride and get on quicker, bypassing the line (for multiple reasons including potential stamina, stairs in the line path, narrow passages that wheelchairs couldn't get through). It was great for us as kids, but really it helped by little brother stick with us as we did things. That system is long gone. Why? "Rich" people were hiring handicapped people to escort them around the park so they could use the handicap pass to bypass rides. Apparently they were making a decent buck at it too, plus they had free tickets to disney parks (cause the people paying them would need to buy them a ticket). But it ballooned the system from an initially low number of people really needing it, to a situation where the "handicap pass" was starting to clog exists and rides all together. The killed that system (for more than that reason I'm sure) and have since replaced it with a fastpass like system called Disability Access Support (DAS) where the handicapped person goes up to the ride (or now uses the app) to request a return time and they just get a free fastpass ticket. Magic Hate Ball posted:It really is nuts how Disney vacation planning is its own industry. It's really insane. My gf is a "luxury travel specialist" (Travel Agent) and I see her plan these amazing trips for a week or more to actual locations with all inclusive resorts for half of what the disney trip cost my family. Sure there's no rides, but you're also not walking 10 miles a day trying to see everything and standing for 10+ hours a day in lines or just around because there are no where near enough seats. Crain fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Dec 16, 2021 |
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:This both sounds like a thing that probably happened at least once ever but also a thing that is the rumor that every handicap accommodation in the history of the world gets. Supposedly that was the official reason disney itself gave for ending it. But yeah.
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Also: The shear amount of walking and standing you WILL do, and MUST do in order to see anything or do anything. The week we were there the average was 9-10 miles a day, over around 8-10 hours, with most of the time between walking being standing. Disney purposefully doesn't put enough seating in the parks because of many reasons, but mostly because if you're sitting, you're not spending. Your feet will hurt even if you're in decent shape and have good shoes on.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I feel like if you are in decent shape you should be able to walk 10 miles in 10 hours. It's the standing that got me. I tracked it loosely one day we were there at Epcot: Out of the roughly 10 hours we were there I managed to sit in an actual chair or bench for around 1 total hour, and usually our breaks were around 10 minutes. If I had to walk 10 miles in 10 hours but could really sit and rest between those miles? No problem. Do ten miles, a few steps at a time, for 10 hours and you're hating life.
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Dubar posted:In Florida the summer heat nearly kills me just going out to the mailbox. If you MUST participate in that capitalist hellscape, for the love of god dont go in July December was better, but only once the sun went down. Though most days it wasn't that humid.
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ponzicar posted:The Indiana Jones ride at Disneyland has an an elaborate ancient temple setup for its queue, and even includes some minor interactive elements. It really sets the mood, and should be the model for other rides. The newer rides all have really fun queues. Even the older rides have had retrofitted interactive and immersive queues leading up to the main attraction. The two newest rides, Rise of the Resistance and Ratatouille, have amazing queues: ROTR: The "line" ends up being part of the show. Being in a fully formed from the ground up new "land" in the park allows it to really feel super immersed. The line does have screens showing the "events" of the ride, snippets of information, tons to look at and watch for and play with. And that's the "100%" line portion. About halfway through your wait you enter the "interactive line" where you're no longer just stepping forward bit by bit. Instead it goes like this: 1) Enter a holding room, get a debrief from BB-8 and Rey (in movie quality hologram form) 2) You move through a hanger towards a "transport" vessel, cast members are "hurrying" you along because you're under attack. 3) You enter the "transport" is shakes and moves through a scene, but is just moving you to the next area 4) You enter into the prison vessel and now the imperial guards are moving you to prison cells. they break you into smaller groups and interact with you a lot. Kinda like drill instructors sassing guests. It's fun. (My gf called one a "space nazi" accidentally and the dude did NOT know how to respond). 5) You're in a prison cell and there's an interrogation via animatronics and LED screen movies. 6) You're broken out of the cell and finally loaded into the ride vehicles themselves to start the actual "ride" portion. The ride itself can be measured to be almost 20-25 minutes long once you enter the "interactive" portion. Once you hit that first holding room you're always being engaged. It's like a stage show. Watch this video to get a better feel for how they funnel you from place to place and make it seem fun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWbWghpV0Q8 But it can take about 2 hours some days to get to that point in the line. And the line got so long they were moving people through the back area of the Muppets section next door to it. Ratatouille: There is no standby line at all, there is no "fastpass", at 7am you can log into the app to try and snag a ticket for your group. If you fail you can try again at 1pm if you are inside the park. The line itself is nestled inside of a new, explicitly "retromodern" Paris section of the France pavillion, great setting, great immersion. The line itself wanders you through Parisian apartment hallways, across the rooftops of Paris, where a transparent LED panel of the Gusto character on the sign interacts with the world around the sign and does things, plus some other stuff happening in the windows. Then you go through another apartment and then onto the ride. Generally a 30 minute wait, but if you miss those openings, you don't get to even try to wait to get in. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing, but it does let them keep the ride of "optimum" through put. It's not as involved as ROTR, but it's still fun. Making the line part of the ride is probably the best bet that Disney has to deal with how bad the lines are, beyond deciding to just make less money by reducing park capacity. Which they'll never do. Are these developments fun? Yes. Is it worth the money and time and wait? Probably not if I'm honest.
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Elukka posted:Imagine if they had a second failed test flight. I wonder if Boeing would just quit. Because what matters with highly technical, extreme environment specialist equipment and machinery, is that it LOOKS cool and would look good slapped on marketing materials.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:"So, I think the next year is really going to tell us how Star Wars Land shakes out." We've beat Disney/Star Wars/Parks to death now, but there is a new thing that popped up that I just found out about, it's just not relevant to the thread. Is there a decent thread for "New CEO decides to see how far they can cut into their brands quality thinking that they're too big to see any criticism and that the customers will lap up any basic poo poo they put out only to realize they went too far too late?" Basically: Disney was planning a special "Star Wars Hotel" experience that was going to be a sci fi "cruise" on a starship, just in a hotel instead. The demo'd art and designs were cool, the promised amenities and features were cool, and when pre-orders for rooms were opened the first full YEAR of the hotel sold out. then they released sneak peaks and "Welcome" videos to those who reserved stays. it was so badly received that they've had over half of those reservations cancel and are trying to DMCA and burn the promo materials they released out of existence.
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Scratch Monkey posted:I’ve heard of this and a friend showed me a video that had a blue stewardess lady taking about the “cruise ship” and while it looked goofy to me it didn’t strike me as some unfathomable insult to the type of person I imagine would be really excited to stay at a Star Wars hotel at Disney. What’s the big deal? I'll see if I can find the video I saw about it. But Disney is in full damage control about the situation so things are getting taken down constantly right now. Basically: The promotional images (which are always aspirational) vs the end product were especially jarring. But, when it comes to something like the promotional material for the Star Wars Park and the final product, they were very close and it looks like a well detailed set. The hotel? Not so much. A simple example of idea vs execution here:  vs  It looks like a cheap Star Trek knock off hallway instead of something from star wars. Also the advertised activities and events that were supposed to be available have been massively downgraded from the promotional material. Considering that this "experience" was supposed to run you $5-30k depending on the room and other things you booked FOR A 48 hour "CRUSIE", it's simply not worth the money at all. Even the Disney/Star Wars diehards are recognizing that and cancelling in droves. Something like this would have been fine back in the late 80s or early 90s, but compared to Disney's modern standards, it's real bad. People are mainly blaming the new CEO, Bob Chapek, for this because he has a reputation as a cheapskate who thinks that Disney can just ride on their past reputation and churn out the absolute cheapest poo poo to ring out as much profit margin as possible because "the fans will buy it no matter what". And I guess we're seeing reality hit him hard right off the bat.
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Scratch Monkey posted:I wonder how much of the difference in those two corridor photos came down to “our designers didn’t know about building and fire codes” Some of the promotional material, sure, would get rounded off for various reasons. However the star Wars park has all that story accurate architecture and hallways in their buildings and shops that at least to some degree follows similar regulations. I know there are different rules for places people stay/live vs facades and shops in an amusement park. But they could have made that first hallway work to meet regulations and keep the right sense of theme. Chapek is also the guy who pushed "change all our new hotel rooms and resorts to the same best western grade quality but change the bed spreads, wall art and wall paper to make it "whatever" themed."
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I've seen better production quality on Fiver. Love that the prop projector is literally just the actress's Iphone with Adobe Premiere 101 effects slapped on it. I've also see way better immersive events and story planning at $30 ticket entry airsoft tournaments. Magic Hate Ball posted:What’s really fascinating to me is the degree to which Disney encourages a sort of parasocial relationship, which can at least partially be brought back around to tech nightmares in how much calculation and algorithmic stuff goes on, not to mention the amount of perpetual access that’s allowed via social media. One of my favourite responses to Disney being disappointing is that they’re “letting the fans down”, or even betraying them, as if Disney is a spouse who forgot their birthday. The vloggers in particular kind of blow my mind - it’s a perfectly engineered melding of content and lifestyle, where there’s no barrier between the corporate brand and your own personal value system. Parasocial relationships kinda terrify me. It was bad enough when Let's Play channels, and "team houses" and social media influencer types were just bombarding their fans to abuse that system to keep them watching and engaging on everything. But now with AI algorithms, content pipelines, and general persistent behavior tracking online and via your phone, you really could create an AI Managed...Cult basically. Remember when you'd just get a "We miss you" email if you didn't log into something for a few days? Well what if Pizza Hut texted you how hurt they were that you were cheating on them because they detected you went to a Dominos, as you went in the door? Crain fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Dec 19, 2021 |
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Less Fat Luke posted:Recalling the same amount of cars sold this entire year, stock barely moves LOL. Stockmarket a joke. Water wet.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I know we have a Tesla thread, but. Social media "engagement" algorithms but applied to your loving vehicle. Gotta keep those customers glued to their tesla screen so they can sell advertising directly into your face while going 60mph down a high way. Konstantin posted:You know they would put ads in it if they thought they could get away with it. Stop at a red light, get a perfectly timed ad for the McDonald's down the block. You can even set Autopilot to go there at the press of a button and order through the integrated app while driving! I'm sure someone at Tesla has pitched this idea and is shocked that the lawyers said no. Waze already does that. When you slow down or stop you get an ad for road stop poo poo and can reroute your trip with a helpful tap of a button to go get a pumpkin hosed sugar bomb "CAFE BEVERAGE" presented by Cisco systems. Crain fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Jan 4, 2022 |
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BiggerBoat posted:What would the thread say about tech's overall impact on the quality of news and journalism? Better, worse or the same? Worse, because ML/AI Algorithms drive for engagement to appease and generate Ad dollars which simply distorts reality. the 24 hour news cycle is one of the worst aspects of modern life.
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Ignore the reddit link, but as expected Musk's RGB gamer tunnels....have traffic jams: https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckcars/comments/rxd3ns/lol_elon_musks_boring_company_has_traffic_jams_i/ It still blows my mind that they're allowed to open those tunnels to the public. Did they get an exemption for fire safety laws? There is ZERO way to get out of them safely in the event of an accident. Death trap waiting to happen.
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CommieGIR posted:Like, everyone predicted this was going to happen. Everyone. There's never been a scenario with vehicles like cars that didn't result in a traffic jam. A subway is public transport, even if you charge a huge cost. You still end up having to be near OTHER PEOPLE! Which is the entire point of what the "hyperloop" and tunnel project started with: Musk wanted a private highway/tunnel system from his house to the closest airport so he never had to see another person. Also lol that their original plan of "the AI will drive you so ensure that everything runs smoothly" but their AI can't reliably pilot a car in the most optimal environment possible.
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Mr. Fall Down Terror posted:
I saw an article stating that before official opening, on the "test days" where they were still trying the AI it wasn't able to reliably pilot the cars at the initially advertised 90mph, it couldn't even do it at reasonable high way speeds and their best test had the AI barely managing the task at 35 mph.
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Mr. Fall Down Terror posted:you don't want to get up to highway speeds in those tunnels without a guideway anyway (what happened to the guideway from the prototype? it was very disneyworld) but the presence of AI is really the least stupid part of this system. plenty of existing heavy rail systems around the world are automation/AI capable, but for various safety and union reasons human drivers are prevalent. the biggest problem is, how do you ensure the embarkation/debarkation process is complete before you close the doors and start the vehicle? you can set up a gate and sensor system, or the driver can just lean out the window In reality, yes, the advertised speeds were always laughable. But another big problem with Musk's system is that he refuses to use anything but machine vision for his driving AI. Other autonomous vehicles use lidar, radar, MV, and any other visualization tech they can for the simple reason that they work and machines can take advantage of them quite well to do their jobs. But Musk's big braim says "Humans can drive with two eyes so our car will TOO!".
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Honestly surprised he didn't just buy an omni-mover system from Disney and slap some fancy bubble cars on top with RGB and touch screens full of ads and call it a day. Seriously, the "People Mover" from TomorrowLand is a more efficient public transit system than the current iteration of the Musk Tunnel.
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It's literally not a joke either: People Mover hourly capacity: 4, 885 guests an hour Las Vegas Loop hourly capacity: 4,400 guests per hour*. *This is the stated "goal" capacity with full cars every trip so it's actually less.
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withak posted:That is the definition of capacity. ??? The PeopleMover figure is the rides reported actual throughput vs. Tesla's advertised ideal capacity instead of their actual throughput. Maybe I could have stated that better. Basically tesla is only saying what they hope it gets up to and now what the actual numbers are, given the traffic jams we now see they have.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:The thing is, Musk abhors the idea of being in the presence of strangers on transit. He doesn't want to be on a bus, or a monorail, or a train. He does not like them, Sam-I-Am. I also buy into the theory that everything he invests in and promotes is simply so he can get his rear end to mars and be alone and as far away from another human being as possible. Dude saw "The Martian" and went "I want that".
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Detective No. 27 posted:Elon Musk is going to turn LA into the next Centralia except with eternally burning Tesla batteries. He's going to get the idea to have transparent tunnel through the labrea tar pits and set the whole thing on fire with some cockamamy arduino powered poo poo he dreamed up in a K-hole.
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Every time the whole, ya know, DEATH TRAP aspect of the tunnel is brought up the Musk defenders try to defend it saying that "it's a beta test, they'll put that into the final version" or something along those lines. I'm sorry, do you really think that this is a video game? That the people traveling in this thing right now aren't at severe risk due to the terrible design of the tunnel? Do they think it's a play test and if anyone dies they'll just "roll back the server" and do it over? It's bad enough that these idiots buy into the loving "beta test" poo poo for helping Musk develop his AI on live roads. But goddamn these people need a serious wake up call and sadly even a massive loss of life from a fire in that tunnel won't even do it.
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withak posted:These cars don’t output CO. Ventilation is important for more than just vehicle emissions when you're dealing with underground tunnels.
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withak posted:I haven’t heard of carbon monoxide being an issue in gassy tunnels except for when there are engines running. Fun thing about heavier than air gasses is that they tend to flow and pool in the lowest area they can. You're supposed to have a CO alarm in your basement even though you might not have a car down there. There's also plenty of other nasty gasses that seep and flow and pool besides CO. I wonder if anyone has done an air quality test down in the tunnel.
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Mr. Fall Down Terror posted:the tunnels are short enough now as designed that they can be ventilated by just moving cars through them, and picking up fresh air at the stations which are only a few minutes stroll apart at best As long as cars are moving. Thankfully a traffic jam that would lead to still air can't happe...oh wait. Safety equipment like proper ventilation is explicitly for when the "it's fine if cars keep moving through it" proper operation fails. The whole enterprise is the safety equivalent of "just in time" delivery, first thing that goes wrong and the problems will cascade. Owlofcreamcheese posted:The tunnel also has ventilation, plus it’s only a mile long, some of these fears are pretty out there unreasonable Hold your breath and go try to walk a mile, let me know how far you get.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:What process would evacuate the air from an open ended short tunnel? You are making up nonsense to get afraid of. A lithium batter fire at one end of the tunnel?
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Safety issues and technology issues and efficiency issues and all the other stuff aside: Even for a proof of concept demo it's so boring. PVC panels and some Ikea RGB lights on a basic cycle. For someone who relies on feeding into people's sci-fi fantasies about potential technology, Musk couldn't be bothered to hire a decent designer?
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Stexils posted:her door setup is the intro to a murder mystery Imagine living in a Doom Level where you gotta find the red, blue, and green key cards.... ...but it's people's hands.
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Rebel Blob posted:I feel bad for their dog. The dog doesn't care that you built it a separate house, it wants to spend time with you.  Jesus loving Christ.
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CommieGIR posted:Speaking of NFTs: I'm still not sure on this simply because 4chan has pushed some x-dimensional psyop bullshit trying this exact tactic: https://twitter.com/Derposorus_Fux/status/1480152269664440321?s=20&t=feNsJ6FpY-2RZrMSGD-1mA Some of the stuff in the linked page could be real (like the BAYC logo being very close to the SS logo) other bits feel really rabbit hole-ish.
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