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Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

nickmeister posted:

Has anyone read "caves of steel?" It's an isaac asimov novel where everyone on earth lives underground. One thing that stuck with we was that their food was mostly made from yeast they would manipulate to taste and feel like other foods. Have any geniuses been working on something like this, or is that not sexy tech yet?

There is perfect day, formerly muufri, which makes milk solids with yeast. If it scales, we might finally have edible vegan cheese.

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Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

Senor Tron posted:

They'll probably give paid users the option to edit tweets and stuff like that.

Maybe they could make you pay every time you delete a tweet?

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

If I have to convince a professional to do their loving job via meetings, there's no way I'm staying at that workplace. There's almost zero reasons for in person meetings in today's workplace. People that want to meet all the time don't actually have much work to do and are likely useless PMC types.

The work from home situation has really shown who does the work and who doesn't do poo poo.

If you never have to meet to discuss stuff or weigh options, you will very likely soon be replaced by an algorithm that can do your job much faster, 24/7. I'm sorry.

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

I wonder if BBS:s had people complaining how these newfangled Usenets newsgroups and IRC networks were shamelessly enabling pedos and terrorists.

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

Had anyone else recently noticed Google maps displaying garbled map labels and/or Facebook presenting interface texts in random languages?

I've so far counted FB UI texts in French, Viet, Arabic (I assume, could be Urdu or Farsi too), Czech, Polish, Serbian, Russian and Hungarian.

Makes me wonder if some commonly used multi-language support library got a botched update.

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

Nothingtoseehere posted:

This is your reminder that until the 90s, women voted more consistantly for conservative and right wing politicians in the anglosphere than men did. The current flip, especially among young women, is a very recent thing.

Might have something to do with the inversion of the higher education gender gap?

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

Ghost Leviathan posted:

It's about WW1, if you're getting into that. 'We were all Orcs in the Great War' and all.

Tolkien was quite adamant it wasn't an allegory of the great war.

J. R. R. Tolkien posted:

The real war does not resemble the legendary war in its process or its conclusion. If it had inspired or directed the development of the legend, then certainly the Ring would have been seized and used against Sauron; he would not have been annihilated but enslaved, and Barad-Dûr would not have been destroyed but occupied. Saruman, failing to get possession of the Ring, would in the confusion and treacheries of the time have found in Mordor the missing links in his own researches into Ring-lore, and before long he would have made a Great Ring of his own with which to challenge the self-styled Ruler of Middle-earth. In that conflict both sides would have held hobbits in hatred and contempt: they would not long have survived even as slaves.

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

Ghost Leviathan posted:

And then see how a lot of places seem to be baffled by the very idea of having to train their own workers, and expect years of experience for 'entry-level' minimum wage positions. It's been such an employer-friendly market for so long that they've literally forgotten how.

Employee training has become somewhat of a lost art. I suspect one of the reasons the greatest generation got so much poo poo done in the immediate, aftermath of WWII was because training lots of people with poor to average motivation to do things adequately had recently been a matter of literal life and death.

I sort of understand the reason it happened though. Companies that need skilled labour tend to locate next door to their competitors because that makes it easier to poach your competitor's employees. That's why all the big banks are in NYC or London City, movie studios in Hollywood, techbro sector in the bay area and aircraft industry in Wichita, KS.

If your employees can leave for competitors at any time, training them carries the risk that that investment will benefit your competitor instead. Most countries have realizes this makes education and training is a common pool resource, which is why education has largely been outsourced to publically subsidized colleges and universities.

The problem with this is that someone else is then deciding what is, and isn't important enough to get included in the curriculum.

Personal motivation can of course offset poor training practice. Otherwise there would be no symphony orchestras, gymnasts or ballet dancers, because those fields seem to have nearly universally terrible pedagogy.

The problem is that it's unreasonable to expect everyone to be so thoroughly dedicated to their jobs that they'll figure it out on their own. A field where you can only make it if you dedicate yourself to it 100% will very quickly run into hiring problems.

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

Ars technica seems to have a pretty good rundown of what's going on.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/10/facebook-instagram-whatsapp-and-oculus-are-down-heres-what-we-know/


Ars Technica posted:

According to u/ramenporn—who claims to be a Facebook employee and part of the recovery efforts—this is most likely a case of Facebook network engineers pushing a config change that inadvertently locked them out, meaning that the fix must come from data center technicians with local, physical access to the routers in question. The withdrawn routes do not appear to be the result of nor related to any malicious attack on Facebook's infrastructure.

Somebody moved fast and broke things.

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

Well, in addition to markets there are really only nine other methods to allocate scarce resources:

  1. (Threat of) violence
  2. Tradition
  3. Lottery
  4. Queue
  5. Equal sharing
  6. Taking turns
  7. Discretionary allocation
  8. Voting
  9. Reward

What they've done is to transform the method of allocation of a scarce service from a queue to a market. It's ghoulish, but even if this company disappeared off the face of the earth today, your chances of reaching the IRS would remain slim.

I guess the main problem is that the tax code is like computer code, over time it will get bloated and full of mostly useless features that nevertheless create exciting bugs.

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

Ghost Leviathan posted:

The scarcity is artificial and deliberate, and that is the problem. Nothing to do with the code, everything to do with the IRS being cut to the bone to make it easier for wealthy tax cheats who own politicians.

This isn't mutually exclusive with the tax code being unnecessarily complicated. If fact, it being overly complicated is kind of a prerequisite for dodging taxes.

Also, if you're going to go all :actually: at least mention all the money Intuit pours into making sure there is a market for TurboTax.

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

divabot posted:

Lotta NHS GPs in the UK went to phone consults first, with in person only when necessary, in the 2020 lockdown. And it's worked OK enough.

Telemedicine is good, it allows people to ask qualified professionals about health problems before they snowball into something more serious. Calling in a scam is a sign of cynicism that borders on the pathological.

Jasper Tin Neck fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Oct 17, 2021

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:

The South is actively useless and a scam, at least for women.

See, there's your problem.

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

Doggles posted:

https://twitter.com/TaylorOgan/status/1469404579439824899

When it works it's impressive, but it's still concerning when it doesn't...

The "train tracks" in this video are really tram tracks. This is not to say that a collision with a tram couldn't ruin your day, but there's a pretty big difference between "turning onto a paved lane with rails running in it" and "trying to drive down a rail line over rail ballast and ties."

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

BiggerBoat posted:

What would the thread say about tech's overall impact on the quality of news and journalism? Better, worse or the same?

It's a mixed bag. On one hand, your information is no longer controlled by what the dozen old farts controlling your locally available news outlets deem important, for better or worse, but on the other hand the stranglehold Google and Facebook have on ads has obliterated the revenues of many media outlets, particularly local ones.

The rising relative cost of labor and the lower cost of distribution has also meant that original reporting has given way to lazy recycling of content. The largest newspaper in this country struck a deal with the Wall Street Journal and now a lot of the content of the business & economy pages feels oddly familiar – because I've read it in English yesterday.

In effect, all the world's news are at your fingertips, but at the same time all the world's news has become much more homogenised and consolidated.

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

Motronic posted:

So "cruise control" is automation now? Cool cool. I guess that 1950s thermostat with the mercury switch in my old house is also automation too.

If you don't have to flip switches or turn valves manually, it most definitely is. Not computerised, but certainly automated.

Computers don't have to be digital or even electronic either. We certainly aren't the first generation in history to use technology in stupid, pointless, counterproductive or irresponsible ways.

We can just do them much faster than ever before in history.

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

Dahir Insaat doesn't even really count as a techbro, it's just one guy pumping out "awesome" concept art like an eight year old. The only difference is that he uses rendering software instead of a box of crayons.

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

Main Paineframe posted:

It's for advertising. When you've got screens on the freezer doors, then it's easier to sell ad space on the freezer doors, and you can charge more too.

Who buys that ad space though? As odd as it sounds, there are limits to what ad agencies consider space worth buying. There's a company around here that does urinals that also play ads. 95% of the time they just read: "your ad could be here. Call now!"

Emperor Vespasian claimed money doesn't smell, but apparently there is a point when monetization just becomes too weird.

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

StumblyWumbly posted:

Was there ever a justification for why Hyperloop would be better than a regular high speed rail? I seems like a lot of extra cost for speeds you couldn't actually achieve. They could have spent $500M just building high speed rail and at least they'd get something at the end.

The enduring allure of gadgetbahn owes to how it hits the MAYA (Most Advanced, Yet Acceptable) sweet spot. It's a good old train, but better, because :techno:

This makes it a good grift and a fine red herring. See e.g. how conservatives in Berlin want to build a Maglev instead of tramlines and subways..

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

BiggerBoat posted:

So...how does YouTube's ad algorithm work exactly?

I have my watch history turned off and pretty much just watch bad movie reviews, a little true crime, some sports and stand up comedy. Documentaries here and there. For some reason, 80% of my ads are weird games where people stand in a line to get eaten by a monster. Usually, it's a lady monster who likes to laugh at the lemming soldiers and also there's a pit or a cave between her and the dudes lining up to die.

WTF are those games even?

Everyone gets Hero Wars ads, now that Mafia City, Evony and Raid: Shadow legends seem to have found the whale-to-ad-dollar ratio drop too low.

Advertising exists on a spectrum from highly targeted, well crafted and expensive to low quality spam carpet-bombed indiscriminately across the internet.

The latter is almost always about games, gambling and girls, because they're the cheapest, quickest most addictive dopamine hits you can get. They make up the majority of ads on the internet, because there's only so much stuff of genuine substance people need or can afford.

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

The AI recommendation system would explain why so many people are complaining their Facebook feeds have recently turned into a stream of unsolicited hot garbage. Facebook had a working product, but they had to Zuck with it.

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

Volmarias posted:

Sure, but it has been a stream of unsolicited hot garbage for a decade.

It used to depend on how much your friends sucked. Then a few months ago there was a massive uptick in pure algorithmic pig feed, like:

  • Far side and Peanuts comics from a million different fan groups
  • Superhero page rips from a gazillion different fan groups.
  • so god drat many Brutus and Pixie "fan groups" that just repost inane memes.
  • memes by "[thing] shitposting/memes" groups. I don't give a poo poo about DnD, trucks, fishing, baseball, Community, Disco Elysium, The Office, crypto or Overwatch or horses.
  • variations of "smol tiddy goth gf" pages posting vaguely uplifting memes. These all have anime avatars and claim to be run by queer people with mental health issues and are always weirdly horny.
  • Fascism.
  • Posts from what appear to be completely random people making public posts about their dog or aunt's mashed potatoes recipe or something.

I found a menu option to "filter low quality content," which improved things a bit, but now the garbage is taking over again.

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Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

Ruffian Price posted:

Yeah it's bosses that make people be on call all the time, you can always turn off notifications
It's not even really even about bosses any more than it's about technology, it all comes down to labour laws:

Blut posted:

Plenty of places in Europe have pretty strict laws/labour rights to prevent exactly this, its a very American idea that workers need to respond to their bosses outside of work hours.

Not just America, significant parts of East Asia work the same way. At-will employment creates an environment where exploitation of employees comes with no consequences.

In contrast, in large parts of Europe, labour union lawyers will indeed take you to the cleaners if you fire someone for not responding to your emails on Sunday, unless explicitly agreed upon.

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