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Shifty Pony posted:

It was initially coined to refer to how venture capitalists were chasing after the startup company which would be worth a lot of money. Because there are thousands of startups that flame out or just end up being mildly successful niche businesses finding and investing in the company that was the one to actually hit $1B in valuation was a near mythical event and was compared to catching a unicorn. The term "unicorn" just stuck stuck.

A better term would be something like "winning the lottery", "beating the odds", or "hitting the jackpot" but VCs don't exactly like to admit that their business model sometimes strongly resembles gambling.

The fact that there are so many unicorns running around is more an indication of how freely the cash is flowing than the quality of the businesses. There is a lot of money out there chasing any sort of return.

no, the market is full of rational actors, who use accurate and complete information to inform their investment strategy, you see~

I met an econ guy at my uni who kept going on about his dream to become a venture capitalist, and he at least was honest about thinking that being a professional gambler would be an awesome job as long as you're winning and that winning would give him a better high than drugs.

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that's :capitalism:

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Scrub-Niggurath posted:

I hope this leads to the utter collapse of the sharing economy

it's not sharing if you don't make money off it...

...uhhh...

...actually that would mean most tech companies do sharing

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silence_kit posted:

I think that people will be willing to pay more for an Uber should they have to raise their prices because it really is more convenient and a better experience than calling a cab. You've really got to be ideologically committed to Uber being the Great Evil to deny that it is a better experience for the customer.

congrats on living in an area with poo poo taxis i guess

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Shifty Pony posted:

What I think is really interesting this go around is how much cargo culting there is going on. Steve Jobs was an rear end in a top hat who dressed in a distinctive manner, we should have a CEO like that (Theranos) and copy the format of their product announcements (Xiaomi, Samsung, many many more) because Apple was successful. Twitter took off at SXSW in Austin, so we should burn absurd amounts of money to get attention there (uncountable numbers of startups) because we want to be Twitter. You even see it with the "hey we should be worth $1B too" fake valuations. Then there is the worship of being "disruptive" as a goal itself instead of a means by which to enter a crowded market sector.

This seems kind of related to the part where MBAs who have never seen the inside of a factory or r&d lab end up faking competence.

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Solkanar512 posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzAdXyPYKQo

This whole series should be required viewing for folks posting in this thread.

actual silicon valley startups don't like the series, guess why

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shrike82 posted:

Probably because it's the equivalent of the Big Bang theory

unlike tbbt, silicon valley explicitly thinks silicon valley is funny and dumb rather than funny and cute

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computer parts posted:

TBBT wasn't really about Silicon Valley last i checked, it was about really rear end in a top hat academics that are still played off for laughs.

Funny and dumb for academia would basically be Office Space but also the main character would lecture utter morons.
correct, but my point is that tbbt doesn't go all the way and call everyone morons who deserve being the butt of all jokes

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Arsenic Lupin posted:

Note that this isn't just a board member, this is Marc Andreesen, founder of Netscape, who is now one of the leading Silicon Valley VCs. His opinions have sway not just over Facebook, but over who gets funded and who doesn't.

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shrike82 posted:

Speaking of Twitter, reminder that they've actually announced that their user base is shrinking

twitor is useful only as a platform for shameless self-advertisement.

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disruptive, n

~ emulating the actions of others in a familiar context

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Frankly the whole paid video thing is getting out of hand. Between Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon Video, I'd be reluctant to subscribe to even more $10/month-ish things and frankly I can't be bothered to janitor even more accounts either.

Centralise all the things, $20/month for the one true video streaming site.

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Who is pdp anyway, one of those guys famous for being famous?

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ToxicSlurpee posted:

I do live in a city but here I can snag a 1BR that would comfortably house two people, including all utilities except internet, for $550 a month.

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this would have been the most realistic trajectory for twitor from the start

nobody uses twitor or facebok because they like the ~brands~ or the ~community~ of the very select and elite (hahaha) users on social media
both are a case of customers being effectively locked in because no alternative has enough of their friends to be worth joining over facebook, or enough dumbass followers to grow numbers and egos, to be worth switching to unless millions of people do so simultaneously. both should get used to basically being a utility that provides a mediocre level of social media everyone takes for granted, with some ads to not run at a hilarious loss

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Paradoxish posted:

The culture of serial entrepreneurship that exists in startup land really is something unique and hosed up, though.

It's peak capitalism. No historical carried-over labour relations or Way That Things Are Done, and regulation to reign in the worst excesses hes yet to come into being.

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cheese posted:

Don't forget to add a heavy dose of white, male, middle/upper class fantasy realization, where you can CREATE something that will 'change the world' with only your skill and white male genius. I never thought we would see a rival to Wall Street finance for that crown, but it has been firmly snatched.

Nah, it's not specifically white male, it's merely that white males ended up with trust funds and power in America so they and not someone else is in the position to be lolbertarian jackasses to everyone.

computer parts posted:

That is the future of technology, and arguably it's already started to happen with computers right now. In the future, computers will be appliances like microwaves or refrigerators - maybe they cost a reasonable amount, but they're very simple and closed off to the general consumer. When it breaks, you either hire a specialist to fix it or buy a new one. This scares people for some reason.

Yes. For everyday computing needs it is good, and it's why people buy macs and smartphones. Computers basically just working and doing things people want them to do is the one thing that takes them to the status of an idiot proof everyday technology.

Computers becoming locked-down appliances is scary to compsci people because reducing computer use to button pushing makes it harder to have a technologically literate population and works against ideals where everyone can and does take full control of and shapes their technological life. Basically, ask yourself why an archlinux fan wouldn't want a locked down computer that only runs one proprietary os and a dozen approved applications.

To an extent, democratisation of tech stuff would be good, but if you look at how cult-like actual existing open source projects can get and ask yourself if the average person would spend any effort on it, it may end up being pearls before swine.

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eSports Chaebol posted:

The utopian ideal of free software is quite feasible, just not in a society with pesky stuff like "copyright law". If publishing software were treated the same way as say, publishing scientific findings (guess we're leaving drug studies out of this one!), then ideally everyone would be contributing to a shared corpus of software that everyone could build upon and improve over time. While in the big picture, information (in the computer sense) is pretty dang far from the base of Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs, it is the first technology we've developed where scarcity is almost purely artificial; and of course, as a society we choose to enforce that artifice.

Then again, pointing out that copyright is an artificial monopoly is cutting it a lot closer to, "La propriete, c'est le vol" than most anyone wants to.

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Academic publishing is a circlejerk of petty politics, inflated profits, unpaid work, wildly varying quality down to being a net drain on humanity, and restricted access. Drug studies and medical things are actually among the better parts of publishing because they're of sufficient public interest that governments went "cut that poo poo out assholes" to enforce a minimum standard of adequacy.

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you mean hire hookers?

lol if you don't live in an area with superfast internet and free wifi where you stream HD porn 24/7

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Woolie Wool posted:

I can't tell you how many times I've seen nerds get pissed off when someone complains about Windows 10 upgrades because that person doesn't want the bother and risk (and for business, expense) of migrating to Windows 10 when his/her current system is just fine for the job.

HURR DURR JUST TRY NEW THINGS I DON'T CARE IF IT COSTS YOUR COMPANY THOUSANDS IN RETRAINING AND MORE ON NEW INSTRUMENTS THAT ARE COMPATIBLE. :shivdurf:

Windows 10 is a pointless windows. Windows 7 forever, or Windows 8.1 forever would provide the exact same benefits to customers as Windows 10 forever now does. The only reason to upgrade to Windows 10 in an office environment is that 7 and 8.1 will stop getting security updates.
We've reached the point where mainstream OSes are good enough and computers are good enough (except linux stuff lol), so tech companies flailing about trying to maintain sales numbers by releasing New Operating System 11, with over 9000 bullet point features!!!!111!!1 impresses nobody.

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Maels posted:

Nah, that was the sentiment about XP 10 years ago. In 2026 if you're still using Windows 10 you'll see a massive difference in implemented "real, actual improvements" nobody has thought up yet. OSs aren't word processors (or IDEs).

Name one end user visible feature ("comes with native USB3 drivers" or "optimised for X hardware" doesn't count) in Windows 10 that makes it better for an office PC running, uh, Office than Windows 7 or 8.1.

Regarding XP, if it ran well on modern hardware and could use more than 3GB of RAM, it would still be serviceable. Minor quality-of-life improvements like window snapping aren't hard to patch in, you know.

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Maels posted:

DirectX12, Start menu and task switcher.
DX12: who cares, it's an office PC
Start menu: I wouldn't call it an improvement (over 7). All apps is less easy to use, and the tiles are not meaningfully better. *installs classic shell*
Task switcher: OK I admit you may have found a thing some people might benefit from

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Being patched in because they're good ideas and still calling it XP would probably work for ya.

Correct. I don't want to reinstall an OS ever, and I don't want to relearn the UI ever. Basically, since MS wants to do SaaS so much, they should do it right and just leave people on Windows 10 for eternity while rolling what would otherwise become windows 11,12,... into it bit by bit.

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Tigntink posted:

Its you. You are the guy who turns his desktop style back to win98 and makes me miserable while i'm remoting in and fixing poo poo. IT LOOKS SO WRONG.

No that's my supervisor. Putting a control panel shortcut on the desktop and installing classic shell fix objectively bad UI decisions that make computers harder to use :colbert:

Still, UIs staying the same unless a new compelling development that actually serves a purpose comes up is good, because I don't give a gently caress about how my computer looks beyond "not a complete eyesore" and "not so confusing it becomes hard to use" and don't want to spend effort on getting used to change for the sake of change.

Paradoxish posted:

lol if you don't launch literally all apps by just hitting winkey and typing (a feature which has been a part of the OS since vista)
:agreed:

somehow UI developers haven't gotten this into their head, and sperglords who turn their desktop style back to win98 have refused to implement this functionality in most Linux distros, even though it's easily implemented by installing ksuperkey without disrupting any shortcut functionality (i don't give a gently caress about whether assigning a direct function to a modifier key hurts your feelings, unless you're developing a clunky OS for turbonerds you make sure things that every user ever is used to are present out-of-the-box).

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Seriously, though, I use Windows 10's virtual desktops on my work laptop on a daily basis. They're barebones as hell, but feel way better to use than just about every third party option that existed pre-10. Windows 10 has a lot of nice quality of life features.
:agreed:, windows 10 isn't particularly bad or anything, it's just that besides occasional quality-of-life stuff that could have been rolled into a mild update there's no reason to upgrade to it abandon your existing post-XP Windows.

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NihilismNow posted:

It won't be. Unless you are very lucky your software will be using a a ton of deprecated API's from 1996.

This. I'm currently watching exactly this unfold as a slow motion train wreck, wherein the process of upgrading a single computer has now taken three months and eaten up like a hundred man hours with no end in sight.

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duz posted:

They've never had 16 bit support in 64 bit versions, even in XP.

VMs all the way down

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rscott posted:

If you guys think migrating scientific equipment is hard, we have waterjet machines that interface through 16 bit ISA cards

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OctaviusBeaver posted:

Well it doesn't hurt any body and there are a ton of well paying jobs. If this is the end game of capitalism then it beats the hell out of socialism (Greece/France/Italy).

G/I are just massively corrupt, no amount of kkkapitalism could possibly fix that. France is the only proper leftist one.

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Bast Relief posted:

As a consumer, all I want is ONE thing that I pay for to get content.

Liquid Communism posted:

The secret is that literally everyone user-side hates internet advertising and blocks it if it is at all possible.

Advertising your product via the usual internet ad methods is actually a reason for me, personally, to never do business with you because you have chosen to interfere with my daily life to shill for it.

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Steam's already solved the gaming industry. One stop shop for all your needs, easy portability, good distribution network, and somewhat reasonable pricing.

YES. So much, this, as a consumer.

I don't care how awesome your idea about disrupting social media/streaming/:pcgaming: sounds, there exist already-good-enough and well-established options and unless you are miles better than anything on the market in every way you need to accept your business is redundant and shouldn't exist.

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Holyshoot posted:

Yup like we have all said convenience will make people want to pay and stop being illegal. Netflix has somewhat harnessed this but not all the way nor can it. Until there is a "Netflix" for all current seasons of tv shows that isn't ad riddled like hulu or cost an arm and a leg and setup like cable I'll be sticking to :filez: for what I can't get on netflix.

Netflix needs to make everything available in every region, and I hope they become rich enough to strong arm rights holders into the 21st century.

shrike82 posted:

Lol I'm going to need to see the receipts to the argument that Internet access is getting "gentrification".

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ductonius posted:

This is called a bloated website, not internet gentrification. I have a hard time imagining a business turning away customers like this, especially since the correlation between money and high speed internet access is not 1:1.

Vertu's leather-clad diamond-studded $10000 crap phones will be advertised most effectively to rich douchebags, because only rich douchebags have the internet speed to load an unnecessary 2 minute 500MB uncompressed high resolution advert before they get bored. Truly the end of the world.

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DrNutt posted:

I feel like unrealistic investor expectations, greed, and the exponential growth of executive salaries has doomed even traditional companies that sell real physical goods. I work for a company that has gutted its corporate staff over the last ten years to remain profitable, and now we're hitting the point where people's jobs are being threatened if we can't sell 'services' because continued growth is unsustainable via only selling retail goods.

who needs capitalism when you can have crapitalism

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Dr. Fishopolis posted:

Yelp / Eat24 worker fired for posting on the internet about literally starving to death while working for food company.

The post:

https://medium.com/@taliajane/an-open-letter-to-my-ceo-fb73df021e7a#.5k265ghc9


The whole thing is a pro-read, except the comments, which are horrific.

The response:

http://www.businessinsider.com/talia-jane-fired-yelp-eat24-2-2016


Guys. Put down the pitchforks, OK? We're moving the whole operation to Phoenix where people don't complain about minimum wage. Also, incidentally, you're all fired.

Stupid Millennial with its head in the clouds wants to achieve the ~dream~ of becoming the twitor posting intern of a hip and cool company, moves to the most expensive city in country to join their customer relations call center drone force to achieve that dream. Said dream immediately gets crushed by reality, stupid millennial breaks down crying. Literal moustache-twirling techlord executive takes a break from bathing in the blood of orphans tech-illiterate grandmas to fire crying millennial and everyone else while he's at it to improve imaginary growth projections, and basically kicks a puppy in public.

This story is basically Peak Tech.

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i started off sympathetic to her plight but ended up being "drat lady you're 25 and you're still making mistakes of this caliber? nobody's responsible for feeding you but you, step it up"

Don't forget that 25 is basically the age when today's generation first starts living in a situation without some parent/college attending to their every need.

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redscare posted:

You left out this part:

Not just an English major who wants a job involving something something media, but an English major who wants a job in media specifically as a twitter spokesperson. Not a spokesperson for the social media company twitter, that is, but a spokesperson that runs another company's twitter account to make lame puns and :pram:randoooooooommm:pram: 140 character shitposts.

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DrNutt posted:

She is partially responsible for her situation, but I feel like 46% of Americans probably shouldn't be making poverty wages and that is a larger problem worthy of more blame than individuals who have trouble budgeting.

e: yeah it's totally her fault that we as a society have been telling people for at least thirty years that all you need to get ahead in this country is to get a bachelor's degree. Working in media, what a terrible poo poo dream, she probably should have decided to become an electrician or plumber instead. God drat millenials.

As I said, "gently caress everyone involved" is a good position to take here :v:

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redscare posted:

California is a pretty pro-union state, maybe she should have given organizing a shot instead. If nothing else, she'd still have a job.

lol are you too poor to pull you're self up by you're bootstraps or what, you statist old person

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wateroverfire posted:

You know, I read her story and all I could think was it took an avalanch of bad decisions to land her at that point.

gently caress stupid millennials, gently caress dumb techies, gently caress turbocapitalists, gently caress lolbertarians

it's perfectly ok to hate everyone involved

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Discendo Vox posted:

What would a private Yahoo do, exactly?

The same as public yahoo, except the idiot in chief can't get booted out for throwing alibaba stock profits into the financial black hole of yahoo.com as a vanity project.

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Xylorjax posted:

That type of job sounds great in theory but in practice it's soul-crushing. You'd have to go full-on AWOL (and not have any conscience about it at all) to be able to enjoy it.

If the company is poo poo enough to pay you six figures without giving you actual things to do, they deserve it when you just stop coming to work until someone notices (probably months or years down the line)

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Basically be that dude in Silicon Valley who is failing up a ladder of do-nothing six figure positions, starting with the first one given to him as an insult.

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Solkanar512 posted:

loving christ, you can't learn anything about my industry in just 2-3 years of working there. I know folks with 30 year pins.

Sounds like your industry is about to get disrupted by a bunch of twentysomethings* :smug:

*Who copy what you're doing, hire more twentysomethings to work an extra 20h per week for the same pay, and ignore all regulation until the court cases catch up with them after a decade and a billion in profits

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