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Is it at all possible for superdelegates to completely abstain from picking a candidate?
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Sucrose posted:What kind of undemocratic poo poo is that? Do the Republicans do that? Turns out political parties are just clubs that get to set their own rules for internal elections and don't have to hold up any democratic values in their own systems.
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Feb 10, 2016 15:36
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What is the current Democratic delegate account minus superdelegates?
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Feb 10, 2016 15:48
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gohmak posted:What is the current Democratic delegate account minus superdelegates? Bloomberg has a visually appealing delegate tracker which separates election delegates from superdelegates. Assuming their info is correct (and my mental math), Hillary so far has 32 delegates to Bernie's 34 without including superdelegates, which is way more narrow of a lead than you might expect considering his blowout win in NH.
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Feb 10, 2016 16:37
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gohmak posted:What is the current Democratic delegate account minus superdelegates? http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/primary-calendar-and-results.html Clinton 32 Sanders 34
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Feb 10, 2016 16:38
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Feb 10, 2016 16:42
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Does anyone know why there's still 17 precincts not reporting?oystertoadfish posted:one thing that might support my lil' assumption from the last few posts i made itt - a district with more non-voters is more likely to provide a new democratic voter than a district with fewer non-voters one problem is that many districts with high non-voter rates, it's because of policies that make it really hard or impossible to vote for many of the non-voters. as such, even if you could get them to try to vote, they might not be able to! like the most egregious example is banning voting by people ever convicted of a felony:  Incidentally, this tends to mean that a rural areas where prisons go get to count all the prisoners towards district apportionment, but the prisoners can't vote. which is kinda like how slave states could count slaves towards apportionment. skaboomizzy posted:He wants the USPS to offer banking services, so that's a start? this is a terrible idea so long as the usps is expected to operate with minimal tax funding, to be honest. it's quite high risk, and should only be done in conjunction with ending the pseudo-seperate operation it's been under since nixon
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Feb 10, 2016 16:47
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Regarding the Boomer shift right, a lot of the 60's radicalism was anti-institutional and focused on individual freedoms. Reagan was able to twist that into an anti-government ideology, and added that to Nixon's "Silent Majority".
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Feb 10, 2016 16:58
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Man people must have been so sick of Cruz's bullshit 30 minute victory speech that some guy I haven't heard of passed him by. Jeb! was like 4k shy of third holy poo poo.
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Feb 10, 2016 17:01
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fishmech posted:this is a terrible idea so long as the usps is expected to operate with minimal tax funding, to be honest. it's quite high risk, and should only be done in conjunction with ending the pseudo-seperate operation it's been under since nixon Retail banking is a high risk industry? What are you smoking?
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Feb 10, 2016 17:06
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Microwaves Mom posted:Man people must have been so sick of Cruz's bullshit 30 minute victory speech that some guy I haven't heard of passed him by. Jeb! was like 4k shy of third holy poo poo. Cruz spent barely any money in the NH race
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Feb 10, 2016 17:08
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SavageBastard posted:http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/primary-calendar-and-results.html I was looking at the charts that break down the results by township and was surprised at the amount of areas that have apparently no population. There are at least 20 locations without polling locations (primarily in Coös County), presumably because nobody lives there. It definitely makes sense when you account for the fact that much of those areas are mountainous/wilderness etc but I had no idea the extent of just how barren New Hampshire actually is in the north.
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Feb 10, 2016 17:10
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fishmech posted:this is a terrible idea so long as the usps is expected to operate with minimal tax funding, to be honest. it's quite high risk, and should only be done in conjunction with ending the pseudo-seperate operation it's been under since nixon you're such a dummy
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Feb 10, 2016 17:12
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gohmak posted:What is the current Democratic delegate account minus superdelegates? From New Hampshire: Bernie: 15 Clinton: 9 Those are preliminary numbers and could change once the vote is certified and we get solid counts of each congressional district. Overall: Bernie: 36 (21 soft pledged, 15 pledged) Clinton: 32 (23 soft pledged, 9 pledged) With superdelegates: Clinton: 44 (24 soft pledged, 9 pledged, 12 PLEOs) Bernie: 36 (21 soft pledged, 15 pledged, 0 PLEOs) Uncommitted: 4 PLEOs
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Feb 10, 2016 17:16
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Retail banking is a high risk industry? What are you smoking? the retail banking industry is low risk precisely because they, legally, can refuse to serve high risk customers. banks are almost entirely free to discriminate against people by refusing to give them an account. creating a postal bank is intended as a means to open up having banking accounts to everyone, and that's a higher risk. on top of that, the usps is currently expected to take care of almost all its expenses through revenue, because of the stupid decision to take it almost completely off taxpayer funding in the 70s. if you make it a full part of the government again that can freely receive taxpayer funding, then the risk incurred from the banking stuff goes away, and making it a postal bank the way many other countries used to have makes sense.
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Feb 10, 2016 17:18
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nh/new_hampshire_democratic_presidential_primary-3351.html So according to the pre-primary polling, Sanders and Trump both outperformed their polling numbers. Trump by 3 points and Sanders by 5.
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Feb 10, 2016 18:15
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Mystery Goomba posted:I was looking at the charts that break down the results by township and was surprised at the amount of areas that have apparently no population. There are at least 20 locations without polling locations (primarily in Coös County), presumably because nobody lives there. It definitely makes sense when you account for the fact that much of those areas are mountainous/wilderness etc but I had no idea the extent of just how barren New Hampshire actually is in the north. They also have names like Bean's Grant and Sargent's Purchase because nobody bothered to give them actual names.
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Feb 10, 2016 18:19
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 What kind of bitchmade precinct is this
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Feb 10, 2016 18:40
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so is there any way trump loses sc?
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Feb 10, 2016 18:42
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Now here's how you do it, Pelham knows what's up.
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Feb 10, 2016 18:46
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Abel Wingnut posted:so is there any way trump loses sc? Maybe if he has a Rubio level of bad debate performance but other than that I don't think so, SC is another open primary state and I can't imagine Trump's place in the polls there has dropped much if any.
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Feb 10, 2016 18:50
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MaxxBot posted:Maybe if he has a Rubio level of bad debate performance but other than that I don't think so, SC is another open primary state and I can't imagine Trump's place in the polls there has dropped much if any. It's another region where Cruz's brand of Fungal Jesus Brain has some traction, so I expect he'll get a boost, but lots of undecideds are going to start drifting toward Trump because GOP primary voters always start voting for whoever's winning, sooner or later.
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Feb 10, 2016 18:54
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Abel Wingnut posted:so is there any way trump loses sc? I don't see way for him to lose, his opposition is really divided and his double digit polling gives him a big lead even with the margin of error/
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Feb 10, 2016 18:54
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Phlegmish posted:Now here's how you do it, Pelham knows what's up. So what you're trying to say here is never, ever go to Pelham.
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Feb 10, 2016 18:55
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Now let me tell you about a place called Seabrook, New Hampshire...they're Trump loyalists almost to a man.
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Feb 10, 2016 18:57
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Phlegmish posted:
It's where Dartmouth is located
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Feb 10, 2016 19:01
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Joementum posted:From New Hampshire: Clinton tied Sanders among registered Democratic voters. http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/it-gets-harder-from-here-for-bernie-sanders/ quote:Despite winning the state by more than 20 percentage points, the best Sanders could manage among registered Democrats was a tie. His large margin came from registered independents who voted in the Democratic primary. You must be a registered Democrat to vote in the Nevada caucus, though you can register as one the day of the election. In 2008, 81 percent of Nevada caucus-goers thought of themselves as Democrats. Just 58 percent of New Hampshire voters on Tuesday thought of themselves as Democrats.
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Feb 10, 2016 19:04
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Mitt Romney posted:Clinton tied Sanders among registered Democratic voters. Yes this is good news for Hillary.
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Feb 10, 2016 19:11
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Doesn't everyone in NH have a big ol' boner for being an Independent, though?
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Feb 10, 2016 19:12
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Mitt Romney posted:Clinton tied Sanders among registered Democratic voters. This is a completely meaningless metric in NH, everybody registers independent so they can declare a party the day of the primary. I want to see the relative turnout of each party for the primary and the election. How much of Trump's support yesterday was D voters picking the other ballot to get the max chaos outcome? The only people who stay registered with a party longer than it takes to fill out a ballot are the absolute die hards and activists.
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Feb 10, 2016 19:19
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turevidar posted:This is a completely meaningless metric in NH, everybody registers independent so they can declare a party the day of the primary. 15% less than 2008 in NH.
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Feb 10, 2016 19:40
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Mitt Romney posted:Clinton tied Sanders among registered Democratic voters. You could make it 51% Mittens. Turn left while you still can.
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Feb 10, 2016 19:58
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Mitt Romney posted:15% less than 2008 in NH. Hillary got 112,000 votes in NH in 2008. She got 93,000 last night.
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Feb 10, 2016 20:04
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Aliquid posted:Hillary got 112,000 votes in NH in 2008. She got 93,000 last night. Young white middle class whites love Bernie, sky also blue, tape at 11.
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Feb 10, 2016 20:08
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Mulva posted:Young white middle class whites love Bernie, sky also blue, tape at 11. Also the middle aged and poor
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Feb 10, 2016 20:11
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The X-man cometh posted:Regarding the Boomer shift right, a lot of the 60's radicalism was anti-institutional and focused on individual freedoms. the present-day "radicalism" is similarly aligned. who will be the reagan 20 years from now? time will tell.
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Feb 10, 2016 20:12
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Also non white vote evenly split but this doesn't mean anything for ~*~reasons~*~
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Feb 10, 2016 20:14
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I don't ask for much, but the only thing I'd like at this point is a contested convention (since a brokered convention doesn't seem possible anymore in this day and age, at least according to Joementum). I think this is our chance guys-- slim as that is. If you have enough candidates being supported by PACS and enough of them unwilling to drop out, it may happen, especially if no one reaches the magic pledged delegate number. I heard the pundits yesterday putting the chance for that scenario at 20%. Unlikely, but still a possibility. Is there any news on when new SC and NV polling is going to come out? They must be doing some furiously polling right now as we speak.
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Feb 10, 2016 20:20
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What would happen in South Carolina if it has the same 48/52 split in non white voters? Just as an exercise.
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wow rude posted:Also non white vote evenly split but this doesn't mean anything for ~*~reasons~*~ Minorities in the North vote like this. Minorities in the South vote like thiiiiiis.
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