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Omi-Polari posted:We have a really narrow and highly mediated view of the past. And it's a big country. My dad grew up in Houston in the 60s and there were hippies there too but they were pretty massively outnumbered by shitkickers with crewcuts. This is the wrong thread, but what are your dad's stories about Houston back then like? That poo poo was blowing up hard so I image he could have easily been a wild west rancher or a prep school dingus with yankee parents. Just today an episode of a podcast called Mortified came out, and the woman in the first story was from Texas and had the thickest twang ever, and was telling a story about 18 year old rancher kids getting married (cause that's just how they did back then), but on the other hand she was telling this story at a hipster-ish bar in Brooklyn and didn't sound THAT old. It just got me thinking what a weird place Texas is, and how it has a wild west and yuppie boomtown reputation at the same time. I'd like to pretend there was a political question here but there's not, you just happened to be talking about a thing I was thinking about today :P Kings Of Calabria has issued a correction as of 08:40 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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Feb 10, 2016 08:37
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Bernie at 60% and Hillary in the 30s looks so good goddamn (Until he gets killed Super Tuesday)
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Sucrose posted:Is the New Hampshire primary winner take all? Only if a candidate breaks 85% which is pretty hard to do.
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etalian posted:Only if a candidate breaks 85% which is pretty hard to do. Why does Clinton currently have more delegates pledged to her (15 vs 13) if Sanders is beating her 60%-to-40% in the votes?
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Sucrose posted:Why does Clinton currently have more delegates pledged to her (15 vs 13) if Sanders is beating her 60%-to-40% in the votes? Because democracy. 1/4th of NH delegates are superdelegates and don't give a gently caress about votes.
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Sacro posted:Because democracy. 1/4th of NH delegates are superdelegates and don't give a gently caress about votes. What kind of undemocratic poo poo is that? Do the Republicans do that?
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Kings Of Calabria posted:This is the wrong thread, but what are your dad's stories about Houston back then like? That poo poo was blowing up hard so I image he could have easily been a wild west rancher or a prep school dingus with yankee parents. It was just really rednecky. There were rich yuppies and the like, too. But there was one story where him and a friend got into a highway beer bottle throwing fight with a pickup truck full of rednecks that ended with the rednecks in a ditch and my dad and his friend drawing rifles on them. Might be some embellishing. Though West Texas is still like that in parts. I have a friend from Big Spring (pronounced "Sprang") who told me a story about the mayor and a town lawyer nearly having a Wild West showdown ... a couple of years ago. His dad was one of the two but I forget which. BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 09:15 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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Sucrose posted:What kind of undemocratic poo poo is that? Do the Republicans do that? no they do not and it's hugely undemocratic but superdelegate pledges are also completely non-binding personal endorsements (before the convention), and it is very unlikely that superdelegates would vote en-masse to make someone who was down in pledged delegates the nominee regardless of commitments made earlier in the race- because the consequences for doing so are so obviously catastrophic in terms of schism/loss of legitimacy/reduced voter turnout/etc.
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Sucrose posted:What kind of undemocratic poo poo is that? Do the Republicans do that? The republican party has super delegates but they are bound to vote the same as the primary results, so it's just a title. Ron Paul managed to get the support of a bunch of super delegates in 2012 so in response the GOP changed the rules to force the super delegates to vote with the primary. Thus preventing scrub-tier candidates from getting any delegates. And now that's gonna burn them with Trump.
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Sucrose posted:What kind of undemocratic poo poo is that? Do the Republicans do that? I think the number of superdelegates on the Republican side are much smaller, although there's all kinds of arcane rules about the superdelegates of different states being bound to different results so it's hard to grind out the exact situation. The simplest explanation I've heard is some of the party's current and former big names are also counted as delegates at the convention and can cast votes on who the nominee should be. Hillary being the establishment candidate has basically all of them by default unless their state has some kind of rule preventing that. Whether they'd use this power at the convention to swing the outcome away from the candidate who actually won more votes during the primaries is another question entirely. I can only assume in the current environment people would call the nomination "stolen" and it'd damage turnout. I think there were similar fears about Obama vs. Hillary in 2008 but it didn't come down to that. Edit: Those other explanations are better, read them.
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Omi-Polari posted:He was a lawyer's son but my lawyer grandfather was not a very good one so they were broke all the time. Not high-priced lawyer, more getting drunks and crooks out on bond type swamp lawyer. That's fuckin rad, thanks dude. I hope your better call saul grandpappy wore a bolo tie lol.
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yeah, my dad grew up in houston in the 50s/60s and the stories just make it sound shitkicker as hell. its amazing how much it changed, by the time I was in school i bet the vast majority of my classmates' parents had moved to houston from out of state. i was made fun of for having a texan accent in houston schools lol
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Tubesock posted:The republican party has super delegates but they are bound to vote the same as the primary results, so it's just a title. Ron Paul managed to get the support of a bunch of super delegates in 2012 so in response the GOP changed the rules to force the super delegates to vote with the primary. Thus preventing scrub-tier candidates from getting any delegates. And now that's gonna burn them with Trump. That and campaign finance deregulation have put republicans in a trap of their own making.
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Tubesock posted:The republican party has super delegates but they are bound to vote the same as the primary results, so it's just a title. Ron Paul managed to get the support of a bunch of super delegates in 2012 so in response the GOP changed the rules to force the super delegates to vote with the primary. Thus preventing scrub-tier candidates from getting any delegates. And now that's gonna burn them with Trump. That's hilarious. Ron Paul got his revenge.
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rscott posted:America is dumb and for years equivocated liberalism with all leftist ideologies, so what are you gonna call yourself when you're more left than a liberal? Bernie Sanders.
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The Trumpocalypse has been set in motion.
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So the polls are closed, right? But only 90% of stuff has been reported? When do we get the full results?
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rscott posted:Something like 27% of the electorate identified as liberal in 2000, that number had moved to 42% by 2015 pretty sure history shows that theres always decades of liberallness and decades of conservatism its just that the party candidates have (probably temporarily) swayed a little further from the center.
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Bernie Sanders vs. Donald Trump is going to be interesting. drat I wish Finnish politics wa this fun to follow.
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Friendly Tumour posted:Bernie Sanders vs. Donald Trump is going to be interesting. drat I wish Finnish politics wa this fun to follow. There's still virtually no chance of this taking place.
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Megaschmoo posted:There's still virtually no chance of this taking place. That a fact?
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Joementum posted:Hanover is Dartmouth and basically nothing else. You'd expect Bernie to do significantly better there. [ftfy] Maybe. The people registered in Hanover, however, are older and richer; my guess is that most of the students at Dartmouth vote in their home state, assuming they've slept off the hangover enough to even think about it.
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Friendly Tumour posted:Bernie Sanders vs. Donald Trump is going to be interesting. drat I wish Finnish politics wa this fun to follow. Bernie vs Trump would be interesting. Hillary vs Trump would be terrifying.
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Friendly Tumour posted:That a fact? Donald technically has a chance to win the nomination, which is more than can be said of Sanders
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:Donald technically has a chance to win the nomination, which is more than can be said of Sanders That was actually a request to provide some sort of statistical proof of the fact.
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Friendly Tumour posted:That was actually a request to provide some sort of statistical proof of the fact. The next two Primary states haven't been polled since December, so it's unfortunately hard to tell exactly what's gonna happen in the next two weeks. Suffice to say, we're gonna see some poo poo
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I can't imagine Kasich doing well in any other primary state except Ohio. He might be able to grab a handful of supporters in other Midwest states, like Michigan and Wisconsin, as the race winows, but I am not sure where his campaign goes from here. I doubt that he will see much of a boost when polling is done in the next few states.
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93.8% reporting on politico, and Rubio has dropped below 10%. If he ends outside the threshold for delegates that is ultra lol
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Scott Forstall posted:93.8% reporting on politico, and Rubio has dropped below 10%. If he ends outside the threshold for delegates that is ultra lol The best part is that now Bush and Rubio will continue to stab each other until Super Tuesday and beyond. Meanwhile, elsewhere in the party...
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a cop posted:Bernie would schlong Trump even harder than Hillary. And you thought Nailin' Palin was good! edit Uh oh, looks like Hillary is in trouble!  What's that, a Dick Morris article? Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign is falling apart. Bernie Sanders soared in New Hampshire and now two polls have him tying her nationally. It’s a disaster. Looks like Hillary is gonna be ok! Sir Tonk has issued a correction as of 15:05 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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Sucrose posted:What kind of undemocratic poo poo is that? Do the Republicans do that? Primaries are internal decisions of private, non-governmental entities and can conduct business however they want.
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Scott Forstall posted:93.8% reporting on politico, and Rubio has dropped below 10%. If he ends outside the threshold for delegates that is ultra lol Where are you seeing this? The following link just has 92% reporting, and Rubio has 10.5%. http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/new-hampshire?lo=ut_d1
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Petey posted:[ftfy] NH has same day voter registration and the whole upper valley is generally more liberal than most of the rest of the state. I'm pretty sure all our state reps are Dems. I'm sure the Dartmouth vote was not insignificant and anyone interested enough to vote is likely going to take advantage of the FITN opportunity.
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I should have screen shot it but he had 9.8 with 93.8 reported. I went back to the page and it refreshed and now says what you have. Maybe a mistake, I guess we'll know the final soon anyway. 5th is bad for Rubio full stop but if he also slips below 10% Trump and everyone will just lay into him about it all the more.
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Scott Forstall posted:93.8% reporting on politico, and Rubio has dropped below 10%. If he ends outside the threshold for delegates that is ultra lol I see 10.5% for Rubio on Politico's website, but he has no delegates behind his name...
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