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Why are we not getting the get-it-now-or-it's-gone-forever Puppet?
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Feb 18, 2016 19:34
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CirclMastr posted:Why are we not getting the get-it-now-or-it's-gone-forever Puppet? The impression I'm getting is that every character is "get it now or it's gone forever" because Chokes isn't going to be rearranging his party ever.
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Feb 18, 2016 19:37
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:The impression I'm getting is that every character is "get it now or it's gone forever" because Chokes isn't going to be rearranging his party ever. Nah, I'll be slotting them in from time to time, it's just we'll always come back to our core party. Plus, we'll get multiple opportunities to vote as we work our way through the catacombs. It's just the Puppet that's "pick it or it's gone."
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Feb 18, 2016 20:15
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I forgot that the puppet is take it or it's gone. Take the puppet
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Feb 18, 2016 20:15
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The Puppet is weird and strange and should be shown off. This is the only chance to pick it up, while we can grab at least some of the others later.
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Feb 18, 2016 20:50
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Puppet, its not a Chokes LP without breaking the game with a simple vaguely broken Chekov's gun and turning it into a rail cannon. or chainsaw
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Feb 18, 2016 21:06
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Werewolf. Because we need a meat grinder, and some of those buffs are just awesome.
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Feb 18, 2016 21:31
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Chokes McGee posted:Nah, I'll be slotting them in from time to time, it's just we'll always come back to our core party. Wait, so what happens to characters that you remove from the party? If we take the Puppet now, can we replace it with someone else and then later bring the Puppet back? What happens to our e.g. Ghost if we decide we want to play with the Goblin for a bit?
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Feb 18, 2016 21:33
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Wait, so what happens to characters that you remove from the party? If we take the Puppet now, can we replace it with someone else and then later bring the Puppet back? What happens to our e.g. Ghost if we decide we want to play with the Goblin for a bit? You have a bench that you can swap between (although I think you might have to be in town to swap? I don't quite remember). Taking the puppet now doesn't even mean we have to use him now, and benched characters still gain exp.
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Feb 18, 2016 21:36
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Can I get a clarification from people who've played the game, is the puppet an irascible old codger who doesn't care WHO he offends, or is he just a zany racial caricature? Use spoiler tags if necessary. also does the ghost have tits
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Feb 18, 2016 21:41
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Puppet I wanna see it.
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Feb 18, 2016 21:56
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Wait, so what happens to characters that you remove from the party? If we take the Puppet now, can we replace it with someone else and then later bring the Puppet back? What happens to our e.g. Ghost if we decide we want to play with the Goblin for a bit? You have six party slots, not counting the Sorcerer. Only four can be in battle at once, and the Sorcerer is required, so you essentially have a party and a backup party by the end of Block 3. The problem is you can't really keep everyone up to date with training because its stupid expensive.
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Feb 18, 2016 22:14
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Explosions posted:Can I get a clarification from people who've played the game, is the puppet an irascible old codger who doesn't care WHO he offends, or is he just a zany racial caricature? Use spoiler tags if necessary. Mortimer Snerd or gtfo quote:also does the ghost have tits  BTW, we originally had the Ghost by a landslide but puppet is coming back strong! I'm gonna hold voting open another day probably to see how things shake out.
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Feb 18, 2016 22:16
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Zore posted:You have six party slots, not counting the Sorcerer. Only four can be in battle at once, and the Sorcerer is required, so you essentially have a party and a backup party by the end of Block 3. You can still use their skills out in the map even when they're not in your party though, just not in battle. I did a hard run that involved having the Cultist in the backup group as a healing battery between combats. I'll toss my vote in for the puppet as well, mostly because I never bothered with it.
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Feb 18, 2016 22:19
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Much as I like the ghost I'm gonna vote Puppet.
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Feb 18, 2016 22:25
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I don't see the Sorceror passing up the chance to be the Master of Puppets, or in this case, one Puppet.
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Feb 18, 2016 23:48
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Would be pretty hilarious if the Sorcerer tried to give the Puppet the 'perfect' minion personality. Just to see how the rest of the party would react to it.
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Feb 19, 2016 00:00
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Changing my vote to Puppet.
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Feb 19, 2016 01:55
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Ghost for buffing and nerfing madness.
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Feb 19, 2016 02:21
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I'm gonna go ahead and call it for the Puppet, guys. The Ghost gave a good run, but we were waiting for the results from Goon County and the turnout was pretty heavy there. Update will be up in a day or two! Maybe possibly.
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Feb 19, 2016 03:08
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Also I'm happy to report quality loot will not be a problem for this run 
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Feb 19, 2016 03:31
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<obligatory hanging chads joke>
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Feb 19, 2016 04:01
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This is already an awesome LP, and it has already convinced me to add this game to my Steam wishlist even though I'd seen and passed it over several times before. Good luck and goonspeed, Chokes. 
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Feb 19, 2016 08:32
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Chokes McGee posted:Also I'm happy to report quality loot will not be a problem for this run Well, congratulations on propitiating the RNG. It's just waiting to pounce, you know.
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Feb 19, 2016 11:49
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Sounds like standard fare for a Chokes LP. The RNG seems to like you quite a lot. Shame the same can't be sad for luck outside your Let's Plays.
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Feb 19, 2016 13:19
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The thing is, it's only for LPs when people are watching. When I tried a hard run off screen, I had to end up scuttling it because I did not get one single piece of rare gear. The next boss, accordingly, destroyed us.
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Feb 19, 2016 15:48
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Gonna start playing this, and glad to see someone else calling out harder = better as bullshit. Lot of the old, old games were hard for two reasons: A. To sell hint books/Helplines to charge additional money or B. Accidental as playtesting wasn't as thorough or standardized today, so the programmers who made the game and know all the mechanics are often the times doing the playtesting period, and generally only for specific portions of the game.
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Feb 20, 2016 00:22
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I don't mind hard games but when later encounters can go like this: battle start, enemy 1 uses running slash, enemy 2 uses running slash, hope is lost, game over. When this happens, it kinda shows that fairness wasn't a concern to the maker. But my biggest complaint is how buggy it still is, more then 2 years later and there's still bugs that can force restarting the game. Shiva Asori fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Feb 20, 2016 |
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Feb 20, 2016 01:33
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Shiva Asori posted:I don't mind hard games but when later encounters can go like this: battle start, enemy 1 uses running slash, enemy 2 uses running slash, hope is lost, game over. When this happens, it kinda shows that fairness wasn't a concern to the maker. Yeah - "Hard but Fair" is perfectly legit, where it's about using your head and managing your resources. When it comes down to being extremely lucky or having to slam your face for several hours to get basically a couple minutes of progress - that's bull.
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Feb 20, 2016 01:46
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I think the biggest flaw with this game's difficulty is that it seems to equate harder with bigger numbers. A lot of bosses don't really feel challenging so much because you're countering their gimmicks and exploiting their weaknesses as it does because they have humongous numbers compared to your party. At the point I'm at bosses are using some abilities that inflict status ailments and whatnot, but they still feel like giant punching bags that hit like trucks, rather than feeling like the main brunt of the fight is counteracting the ailments. It's more like something just kinda tossed in for a bit of spice rather than being a key component of the dish, to use a half-assed cooking analogy. I know I'm sounding really harsh on the game, but I do want to emphasize that I have been enjoying it! This tickles the Wizardry itch without turning me off with massive mazes (so far) and little to no auto-map feature. It's just that, as everyone else has said, the bosses in particular tend to be tedious fights with little to no frills on the actual combat. And the later game enemies start tending to feel the same way (in addition to being less frequent, it feels). It's an enjoyable game with a lot of potential, but it also has a fair number of flaws. It's by far not the worst 5 dollars I've spent, that's for sure.
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Feb 20, 2016 06:05
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Shiva Asori posted:I don't mind hard games but when later encounters can go like this: battle start, enemy 1 uses running slash, enemy 2 uses running slash, hope is lost, game over. When this happens, it kinda shows that fairness wasn't a concern to the maker. I think I just went through that exact same fight earlier today when I was replaying it - the only way I managed to get through it was consumables spam. Hopefully they patched up a bug late in the game involving the various puzzles since the last time i played. THAT was annoying.
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Feb 20, 2016 06:28
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I just noticed that you have been using "Sorceror" when it is specifically spelled "Sorcerer" in game and on the steam page. While I don't particularly care that much if you decide to fix this typo or not, I haven't seen this issue being brought up in the thread before.
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Feb 20, 2016 07:22
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Wiser Guy posted:I just noticed that you have been using "Sorceror" when it is specifically spelled "Sorcerer" in game and on the steam page. Well, now that you pointed it out, we can't unsee it. LP ruined, thread voted 0 - shut it down, people!
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Feb 20, 2016 10:36
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I vote we split the difference and call him the 'Sorcerir' from now on.
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Feb 20, 2016 11:33
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Sorcer/Sorcerer/Sorcerself
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Feb 20, 2016 11:56
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Xe does have headmates...
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Feb 20, 2016 16:15
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Why do you automatically assume people from other existences spell things the same way we do? Heteronormative jerks  Meh, I'll just do the same thing I do in every story and lampshade to make it a viable spelling somehow. In fact, I already have an idea, but you'll have to put up with it until late game. Deal wiith it 
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Feb 20, 2016 17:37
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Sorcerest 
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Feb 20, 2016 20:03
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That sorceror/sorcerer thing screws me up all the time. I have no idea why.
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Feb 20, 2016 20:12
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Christ you guys, it's spelled 'saucer.'
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