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Y'all are being weird. The correct answer was to pander (but be honest), and Bernie hosed that up despite having legitimate good, true, answers. You marched with Dr. King for gently caress's sake, that didn't cross your mind to work in there? I very badly want Bernie to beat Hillary but those were awful answers. Churchill? Really?
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:He was also pretty vocal about comparing Israeli occupation of the West Bank to Apartheid so Sanders saying he admired his foreign policy would give the right a club to beat him with. With Churchill, in order to beat him with that the right would have to admit Churchill wasn't a great guy and they simply won't do that. I doubt that entered into the thought. Also the Israeli occupation of the West Bank is an atrocity so it would have still been a better answer. This show is really killing it. Bee is taking cues from LWT, but she's focusing on being funny yet incisive rather than preachy so it's working a lot better for me.
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Mar 2, 2016 00:53
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I think this show did a better job than most at trying to explain why "all lives matter" is misguided. But I don't think people saying that are necessarily saying it from a place of racism so much as a place of trying to acknowledge things loving over everyone, like income inequality (which is certainly a huge part of the systemic racism), without realizing that it diminishes the point.
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Mar 2, 2016 22:43
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We do. I'm just saying it's a logical thing to take the general message of "black lives matter" and try to be even more inclusive by rolling in other disadvantaged groups but it misses the point. The problem is that it's really easy to not understand that you're actually proving the racism BLM is pointing out in doing so. And then well-meaning people get called out on it without any explanation and go on the defensive and it turns into a shitshow. I was pointing out that this show followed through and said why all lives matter doesn't work.
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Mar 2, 2016 23:23
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raditts posted:Isn't it really strange, though, that "Black Lives Matter" is the only situation in which you could state that something matters and people would assume you think it's the only thing that matters? I don't think that's the case though, people are constantly confusing addressing one issue with ignoring all others. Like, for example, people bitching about cops doing traffic enforcement when they "should" be spending their time catching rapists and murderers. Or why is [legislative body] talking about carbon emissions instead of the price of gas. Or animal rights people being accused of not caring about advances in medicine. Or criminal justice reform people being accused of not caring about victims. People fixate on poo poo. It's nothing new. I get where you're coming from, but the false dichotomy of only being able to care about one thing instead of many is nothing new and it's not exclusive to BLM. I really think this is a case where you can apply "never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity." Or in this case, well-meaning ignorance. And yeah there's a massive amount of privilege tied up in comprehending why all lives matter is offensive, I don't think anyone would deny that who has thought about it..
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Mar 3, 2016 01:24
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I don't think anyone on TDS wanted the job, no matter how much people on the internet like to bang on about it.
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Mar 3, 2016 22:05
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Bass Bottles posted:Watching liberal hero Bernie get called out for it, and Bernie-loving liberal men try to hand-wave it away, is very interesting. His comment on race was another moment like this that's getting a similar reaction. She didn't get interrupted, she got asked to wait her turn, just like she would do if Sanders started trying to steamroll her during her time (which Hillary was doing repeatedly). I don't get it, he did what any politician at a debate would do to any other that tried to jack their time. I understand the lens this show is making jokes through, but I can't figure out how you frame this as anything other than, you know, poo poo that happens in a debate.
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Mar 9, 2016 17:02
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What's the proper phraseology for "cram it butthole, this is my time"?
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Mar 9, 2016 17:13
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Bass Bottles posted:You're right that he would have responded to O'Malley the same way, but it doesn't matter. This stuff is why the right is getting so much traction banging the old "political correctness gone amok" drum again.
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Mar 9, 2016 21:17
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Pinky Artichoke posted:I listened to a lot of Obama back then because I found his voice so soothing during a tough time (those long-form commercials...perfect) and I honestly couldn't tell you what he actually said. "Make america great again" but with less racism and xenophobia. He didn't live up to expectations, but I only half blame him for that. RedneckwithGuns posted:Maybe it's that it was almost 10 god damned years ago (jesus christ where did the time go) but I don't remember it being as big a problem for Obama back in '08. Bernie has the tendency to sound like a broken record sometimes. Obama's speeches were all mainly the same if you actually watched them, right down to which folksy sob story he was going to trot out for healthcare, mortgage poo poo, jobs, etc. All politicians do it for sure. Bernie is catching more poo poo for it, I don't know, because he's so angry and passionate about big money fuckery and income inequality? Honestly if you aren't, you're not paying attention.
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Mar 10, 2016 17:46
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Sam showed remarkable restraint in not pointing out that congresswoman Rape-is-cool's last name was "under man."
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Mar 22, 2016 14:16
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It makes me sad this went over some people's heads.
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Mar 24, 2016 17:54
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Sam Bee really really really likes Hillary Clinton and is mad that someone challenged her coronation, this should not be a surprise this many episodes in. I just laugh at the other 2/3s of the show, she'll be able to mock actual sexism and poo poo when Clinton is running in the general election.
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Apr 22, 2016 00:27
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ShakeZula posted:It didn't feel like there was much of a joke to Stewart's appearance. I mean, is he actually running an animal sanctuary now, or was that just random? I think it was more his wife's thing but yes.
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Jun 10, 2016 16:15
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LWT suffers from the main segment being a boring slog if you already know about whatever lovely aspect of america it's about, since there's usually about 4 jokes spread over that 20 minutes and one of them is bound to be Janet in accounting not giving a gently caress.
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Jun 16, 2016 14:42
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rujasu posted:I like Bee's show, but I think Oliver's is still better, and I don't really think it's close right now. Both are far ahead of Colbert or Noah, however. Colbert gets worse by the day, it's really sad.
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Jun 16, 2016 22:03
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Narcissus1916 posted:I register voters on college campuses and we require their social security numbers to get them registered. I happen to have a voter registration form right here (recent change of address) and nowhere on it does it require a social, so why do you want one?
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Sep 15, 2016 18:41
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Filthy scammer!
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Sep 15, 2016 20:58
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VagueRant posted:Consistently appalled by the lack of attention this show gets. (Especially when I'm trying to figure out WHEN it's even on - the scheduling has been my biggest problem with the show.) For real, wasn't she very explicit about the wednesday airing being just for that first debate?
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Oct 6, 2016 14:34
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Well at least Sam can be angry again next week:quote:“I’ll go backstage before a show, and everyone’s getting dressed and ready and everything else,” he said. “And you know, no men are anywhere. And I’m allowed to go in because I’m the owner of the pageant. And therefore I’m inspecting it.”
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Oct 12, 2016 18:41
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Afro posted:Well I figured he used the excuse of being the "owner of the pageant" to be a creepy old pervert but having confirmation is still unsettling. Sorry I forgot to link the article, the even creepier part is this: quote:Separately, BuzzFeed News reported Wednesday that four women in the 1997 Miss Teen USA beauty pageant said Trump walked into their dressing room while they were changing. Some were as young as 15, BuzzFeed reported. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...omepage%2Fstory
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Oct 12, 2016 19:25
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bull3964 posted:The problem is, none of these are any more shocking than bragging about sexual assault so I doubt they'll really make a splash. I dunno walking into a dressing room full of naked, some underaged, girls seems like it would piss a lot of people off.
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Oct 12, 2016 20:47
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Echo Chamber posted:Young people are the one age demo that overwhelmingly prefers Clinton over Trump, but I feel like they're the one group that will be scapegoated by liberal pundits if Trump wins. I'm getting pretty tired of it. Were young people blamed for Brexit? http://ropercenter.cornell.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/how-groups-voted-2000/ That young people don't vote isn't just angry tv funny lady's opinion. It's gotten better than in 2000, but it's still substantially less than the (admittedly depressingly low) rate that older people vote at and if Brexit sounds bad remember George Bush? Yeah, thanks young people who don't vote.
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Nov 2, 2016 18:51
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Echo Chamber posted:I'm just confused whether TV people are talking to me or talking around me. I'm getting annoyed at a lot of the "kids these days" rhetoric. Good for you, so did I. We are pretty loving exceptional in that regard though. Did you not click the link I posted?
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Nov 2, 2016 22:28
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I'm surprised at how often Bee gets to do field pieces on a TBS budget.
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Jan 17, 2017 21:36
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I started listening to Sam Bee's book and wow there's a lot of pedophiles in canada apparently. Never go anywhere with a canadian man that offers you pizza.
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Jan 23, 2017 15:28
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Die Sexmonster! posted:This is nonsensical, and I'm not trying to attack you for putting up this point or anything. Just, I voted for Bernie in the primary. Then, when the general came around, I voted for Hillary, because the alternative was Donald fuckin' Trump. I'm sure millions felt the same way. Hillary failed to turn out Obama voters. That's the mystery to be investigated. There's a lot of people out there that think so-called Bernie bros stayed home or voted for Gary Johnson or just someone other than Hillary and that's why Hillary lost. I don't doubt that a non-zero number of people did that but I think it's also pretty a pretty small group and in the end just ignoring other much more glaring problems.
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Feb 13, 2017 20:18
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Drifter posted:I wonder if the treatment and eventual exclusion of Obama's volunteer GOTVers by the DNC led to a lot fo them just not going to vote for hillary. This was me in '12. This was not relevant in '16. I campaigned for him in 08, voted against him in 12 (third party lol never a republican), and was for Bernie in 16, but when he lost I begrudgingly fell in line with Hillary because holy poo poo Donald Trump? But people like me aren't why she lost. She lost because she ignored her so-called firewall of Obama 2012 states. Not one campaign stop in Wisconsin or Michigan? Come the gently caress on. With the kind of baggage she had to start with she should not have underestimated her base, especially not in a year where a populist fascist won the gop vote and a populist socialist mounted a fairly strong opposition to her presumed coronation, especially among one of her most needed demographics. Hindsight is 20/20, but she ran a poo poo campaign.
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Feb 14, 2017 02:42
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precision posted:Voter turnout on the left was down far more than it was on the right. A lot of potential votes got lost because people legitimately believed Trump had zero chance of winning. It's depressing. This was totally avoidable. The reasons Hillary lost are myriad. But yeah there was a major enthusiasm gap in play.
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Mar 13, 2017 16:27
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I mean, it's her first shot at an hour-long that I'm aware of, and it wasn't the strongest theme to begin with. It wasn't bad, just probably they were aiming too high too soon. But you have to admit TBS is coughing up more money than you expected for this show.
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May 1, 2017 21:25
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I actually think Trevor is doing a very good job.
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May 1, 2017 22:27
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You made me think the show had been on but it wasn't on my DVR, where did she say that?
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Sep 14, 2017 18:22
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Saw the episode, (PSVue got it but didn't bump it up to the top of the page for some reason). That was pretty inoffensive and largely correct in the broader sense. But when things are getting heated during a protest I really don't have a problem with antifa people knocking around some nazis if they start poo poo. Hugging a nazi won't fix things either though, unless you address the underlying problems, which isn't an easy thing to do and certainly not something that will ever happen while we have Trump throwing gas on the fire.
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Sep 15, 2017 14:35
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She and Jason Jones crushed all of the browns' skulls beneath their maple death boots of white power.
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precision posted:If you haven't yet, check out Accidental Courtesy (I believe it's still on Netflix): It is, and I will check it out, but while I agree with outreach and peaceful cultural integration of the ignorant, I also see nazis ramming crowds of innocent protesters with cars who would benefit from someone willing to do violence to defend them. It's a terrible situation we find ourselves in but we're in it.
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