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Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009



Didn't know your wife was German.

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Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

LifeSunDeath posted:

Had a classmate who got phenol exposure. He told the story basically saying that he was certain he would get cancer as a result.

Phenol is not carcinogenic.

It is acidic and can cause acute chemical burns, but in smaller quantities people historically used it as an exfoliant and an antiseptic soap.

He'll be fine :eng101:

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Sagebrush posted:

Phenol is not carcinogenic.

It is acidic and can cause acute chemical burns, but in smaller quantities people historically used it as an exfoliant and an antiseptic soap.

He'll be fine :eng101:

hahah, drat, wish I could have informed him at the time, probably would have made his day. Dude had a brief career as an MLB player but blew out his shoulder, he was very sad about having to work in the plants then go back to school to escape that hell.

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

PittTheElder posted:

Everybody talking about Colin Furze's nonsense while forgetting that Paleas's attempt to dig under what appears to be a large commercial building: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ4T_cQpisQ

Now this dude likes to dig.

I was gonna say "I thought they sent this guy to prison for burning a black guy to death in his tunnel" but I realized that was a different person.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/24/us/daniel-beckwitt-askia-khafra.html
https://www.washingtonian.com/2019/09/08/paranoid-tech-bro-homemade-nuclear-bunker-shocking-death-askia-khafra-daniel-beckwitt/

pseudorandom
Jun 16, 2010



Yam Slacker

Powershift posted:

Figured i would hammer this out in the middle of the night but i'm not feeling it. I'll try again after a little sleep. still gonna share the failure :smith:



I've got to figure out how to do it with more obnoxious fonts, and "I'M A TRAINDRIVING TRUCKFUCKLING IRONFORGING BADASS AND I CHANGE FOR NOBODY"

E: V2, still not happy




I'm not a boomer t-shirt designer, but my first thought is that the three professions should all use the same font; it feels weird that "IRON FORGING" is different from the previous two.

I'd recommend checking out some free font websites like Font Squirrel or FontSpace. Maybe try a font that has, for lack of a better word, a "biker" aesthetic to it, like this one.

Also, it never hurts to throw in some skulls, angel/eagle wings, crosses, or ribbon banners.

For further inspiration: :airquote: a friend of mine :airquote: recently received a spam email for t-shirts etc customized with your family name; these screenshots are both hilarious and may help with design ideas.

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

Maybe you need one of them cool font effects that gives it a different color outline around one side and or makes it look 3d

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


PittTheElder posted:

Everybody talking about Colin Furze's nonsense while forgetting that Paleas's attempt to dig under what appears to be a large commercial building: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ4T_cQpisQ

Now this dude likes to dig.

Paleas is a national treasure. He seems to swing from doing things with correct tools and methods to some crazy batshit ideas. He only get a few thousand views but somewhere an authority is loving PISSED he exists and wants to shut him down. Godspeed Paleas you trance loving hole digging maniac!

Dance Time!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1zZQ6Y3mMY

He really should do a colaboration with Primitive Tech up in Cairns!

Humphreys fucked around with this message at 10:57 on Nov 21, 2019

Sankis
Mar 8, 2004

But I remember the fella who told me. Big lad. Arms as thick as oak trees, a stunning collection of scars, nice eye patch. A REAL therapist he was. Er wait. Maybe it was rapist?


I can't quite piece together what his overall goal is or where this started but he appears to be digging an unauthorized(?) underground complex. He is truly living the dream.

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

PittTheElder posted:

Everybody talking about Colin Furze's nonsense while forgetting that Paleas's attempt to dig under what appears to be a large commercial building: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ4T_cQpisQ

Now this dude likes to dig.

rofl everybody skip to 2:13 and watch him lift this boulder while barefoot but with a hardhat and ear protection on

sharkytm
Oct 9, 2003

Ba

By

Sharkytm doot doo do doot do doo


Fallen Rib

bring back old gbs posted:

rofl everybody skip to 2:13 and watch him lift this boulder while barefoot but with a hardhat and ear protection on

And lifting purely with his back. He'd just need to twist to meet the Peter Griffin standard.

https://youtu.be/1e4SBxgqBEY

Lucid Nonsense
Aug 6, 2009

Welcome to the jungle, it gets worse here every day

In the mid 80's I worked at a specialty shop that installed custom mirrors and shower enclosures. That's exactly how we laid sheets on the table. You could also hit a sheet with a hammer and it wouldn't break as long as you weren't close to the edge.

Guyver
Dec 5, 2006

sharkytm posted:

And lifting purely with his back. He'd just need to twist to meet the Peter Griffin standard.

https://youtu.be/1e4SBxgqBEY

It is really hard to pick up a heavy stone with a straight back and squatting down. In fact if it's heavy enough it's impossible because you're trying to pick it up from such a poor mechanical position.

"lift with your legs" is bullshit and people should really stop repeating it.

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

Guyver posted:

It is really hard to pick up a heavy stone with a straight back and squatting down. In fact if it's heavy enough it's impossible because you're trying to pick it up from such a poor mechanical position.

"lift with your legs" is bullshit and people should really stop repeating it.

Get a second person or lifting equipment then.

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




Guyver posted:

It is really hard to pick up a heavy stone with a straight back and squatting down. In fact if it's heavy enough it's impossible because you're trying to pick it up from such a poor mechanical position.

"lift with your legs" is bullshit and people should really stop repeating it.

??

https://i.imgur.com/YLlhiWZ.mp4

??

corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

Guyver posted:

"lift with your legs" is bullshit and people should really stop repeating it.

Did your chiropractor tell you that?

Guyver
Dec 5, 2006

That is not a large rock, now post a gif of Eddie lifting an atlas stone.

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




Guyver posted:

That is not a large rock, now post a gif of Eddie lifting an atlas stone.

Got Brian Shaw?

https://i.imgur.com/xWSTajD.mp4

Most of the lift is coming from his legs and for that inital bump up onto his knees he's keeping his back as straight as a 250kg weight will allow. He also wears a belt to stop his back exploding.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
This is all so different from how I was thought.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbvNbj5qMrg

Guyver
Dec 5, 2006

Aramoro posted:

Got Brian Shaw?

https://i.imgur.com/xWSTajD.mp4

Most of the lift is coming from his legs and for that inital bump up onto his knees he's keeping his back as straight as a 250kg weight will allow. He also wears a belt to stop his back exploding.


Couple things. First is his back is in flexion then straightens it's hard to tell this because he's literally 450 lbs of mostly muscle. Second when people say "lift with your legs" they mean to remove the spinal loading, what do you think is holding that in place as he raises with his legs? Hint. It's not his arms. Lastly a lifting belt does nothing for spinal integrity it's for creating extra intra abdominal pressure.

Guyver fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Nov 21, 2019

hemale in pain
Jun 5, 2010




it's good that whenever you pick something up there's going to be someone rambling about lifting technique somewhere

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




Guyver posted:

Couple things. First is his back is in flexion then straightens it's hard to tell this because he's literally 450 lbs of mostly muscle. Second when people say "lift with your legs" they mean to remove the spinal loading, what do you think is holding that in place as he raises with his legs? Hint. It's not his arms. Lastly a lifting belt does nothing for spinal integrity it's for creating extra intra abdominal pressure.

Belts do increase intra abdominal pressure which has the effect of relieving pressure on the lower back and stabilising your spine. If you can't see what the dude in the video is doing poorly then I don't know what to tell you.

Are you posting on behalf of Big Chiropractory or something?

Sex Skeleton
Aug 16, 2018

For when lonely nights turn bonely

Guyver posted:

Couple things. First is his back is in flexion then straightens it's hard to tell this because he's literally 450 lbs of mostly muscle. Second when people say "lift with your legs" they mean to remove the spinal loading, what do you think is holding that in place as he raises with his legs? Hint. It's not his arms. Lastly a lifting belt does nothing for spinal integrity it's for creating extra intra abdominal pressure.

Correct me if I'm wrong but it's less about skeletal loading and more about changing the mechanics of the lift for your core muscles. Your erector spinae and other core muscles aren't actually that strong and don't have great attachment points for direct use like that. They mainly stabilize your body and skeleton while other muscles such as your glutes or hamstrings do the actual lever work. By having the weight far away from your feet as you deadlift you're creating a situation where the core muscles have to support way more weight than they normally would which is a recipe for disaster. So you can safely deadlift a shitload of weight as long as that weight is pretty close to your toes. And you lift with your legs in the sense that your hamstrings are primarily involved in the deadlift, and not any of your back muscles. Your hamstrings basically pull your upper body like a lever using your hips as a fulcrum.

You still will feel some action in your core muscles but that's because they stabilize your spine through the lift. And if you mainly feel deadlifts in your core then you may need to change how you're exercising because that means your hamstrings are really strong but your core isn't strong enough so you're definitely going to blow your back out. Or your hamstrings aren't limber enough which is another reason people blow their backs out doing deadlifts, because they'll roll their hips instead of pivoting around them. Most people have really poor range of motion in their hamstrings because they sit most of the day. So it's something you really have to work up to and not expect to be able to do them right out of the gate.

Sex Skeleton fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Nov 21, 2019

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


:stonk:

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012





Hmm remaking Staplerfahrer Klaus in the Found Footage style? Nice idea.

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
rofl ZERO. fuckin not even a HINT of any of that motion making its way to the forklift itself. 101% of that energy was dissipated right into her neck

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
I'm the handbag.

bring back old gbs posted:

rofl ZERO. fuckin not even a HINT of any of that motion making its way to the forklift itself. 101% of that energy was dissipated right into her neck

Surely the squishy bit above the neck dissipated some.

edit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V23N69yqUV0

Nenonen fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Nov 21, 2019

Guyver
Dec 5, 2006

Aramoro posted:

Belts do increase intra abdominal pressure which has the effect of relieving pressure on the lower back and stabilising your spine. If you can't see what the dude in the video is doing poorly then I don't know what to tell you.

Are you posting on behalf of Big Chiropractory or something?
A belt helping the back by giving your trunk muscles something to press against is not the same as it being there to "stop his back exploding" also no the guy in the video's stone technique is garbage and is piss weak. Chiropractory does piss all.

Sex Skeleton posted:

Correct me if I'm wrong but it's less about skeletal loading and more about changing the mechanics of the lift for your core muscles. Your erector spinae and other core muscles aren't actually that strong and don't have great attachment points for direct use like that. They mainly stabilize your body and skeleton while other muscles such as your glutes or hamstrings do the actual lever work. By having the weight far away from your feet as you deadlift you're creating a situation where the core muscles have to support way more weight than they normally would which is a recipe for disaster. So you can safely deadlift a shitload of weight as long as that weight is pretty close to your toes. And you lift with your legs in the sense that your hamstrings are primarily involved in the deadlift, and not any of your back muscles. Your hamstrings basically pull your upper body like a lever using your hips as a fulcrum.

You still will feel some action in your core muscles but that's because they stabilize your spine through the lift. And if you mainly feel deadlifts in your core then you may need to change how you're exercising because that means your hamstrings are really strong but your core isn't strong enough so you're definitely going to blow your back out. Or your hamstrings aren't limber enough which is another reason people blow their backs out doing deadlifts, because they'll roll their hips instead of pivoting around them. Most people have really poor range of motion in their hamstrings because they sit most of the day. So it's something you really have to work up to and not expect to be able to do them right out of the gate.
We talking rocks. In order to get a stone into a mechanically advantages position you are going to have to put your back into flexion.

ArcMage
Sep 14, 2007

What is this thread?

Ramrod XTreme
You could stand over it, if spatial arrangement permits it

moist turtleneck
Jul 17, 2003

Represent.



Dinosaur Gum
the back lifting defender has logged the gently caress on lol

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

moist turtleneck posted:

the back lifting defender has logged the gently caress on lol

What a stupid loving derail

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

moist turtleneck posted:

the back lifting defender has logged the gently caress on lol

I don't think their argument carries much weight.

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

madeintaipei posted:

I don't think their argument carries much weight.

Family Guy covered this anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1c6aA_ur48

Imagined
Feb 2, 2007
The thing about humans is we have brains and make tools. If we can't lift something or can't lift it safely we build something to make it safer and easier. Saying you can't lift a big stone by hand without using your back is a dumb argument because yeah, duh, so we use the muscle between our ears and don't try to lift it by hand.

Like seriously someone came into the OSHA thread and argued that advice about doing something safely by hand is dumb because it can't be done safely by hand, so we should just ignore the advice?

Imagined fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Nov 21, 2019

EvenWorseOpinions
Jun 10, 2017
I have heard from a guy who lifts weights regularly that you can safely lift with your back if you train properly for it, but he was also an idiot so I dunno

Imagined
Feb 2, 2007

EvenWorseOpinions posted:

I have heard from a guy who lifts weights regularly that you can safely lift with your back if you train properly for it, but he was also an idiot so I dunno

I mean there are lifts that strengthen your back like bent-over rows and things like that, yeah.

SpaceCadetBob
Dec 27, 2012

I don't know how this isn't a nearly fatal injury.

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

Imagined posted:

so we use the muscle between our ears and don't try to lift it by hand.

Trying to use your occipitofrontalis to lift might be even dumber than using your back

null_pointer
Nov 9, 2004

Center in, pull back. Stop. Track 45 right. Stop. Center and stop.

SpaceCadetBob posted:

I don't know how this isn't a nearly fatal injury.

Yeah, if this woman is alive, she's probably crippled and/or in constant pain. Fuuuuuuck. :(

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy

Imagined posted:

I mean there are lifts that strengthen your back like bent-over rows and things like that, yeah.

Tellingly, none of those muscles are in your lower back, which is what you end up blowing out when you lift incorrectly.

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Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof

Guyver posted:

It is really hard to pick up a heavy stone with a straight back and squatting down. In fact if it's heavy enough it's impossible because you're trying to pick it up from such a poor mechanical position.

"lift with your legs" is bullshit and people should really stop repeating it.

Lackey of Big Chiro spotted:argh:

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