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C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

Dillbag posted:

My wife and I struck up a conversation with a retired US airforce and FedEx pilot when we were on vacation a few months ago. He told us that the worst pilots in the world were South Koreans because in his opinion Asians didn't have the confidence to make the correct decisions when under pressure like Caucasians did (he ended up being a crazy Trump supporter, surprise!), but also didn't have the rigid training that the Japanese had to overcome such issues. He pointed to Asiana flight 214 as an example ("how the hell do you crash on the straightest runway on the west coast of North America?") and said the rest of the industry called Korean pilots "The Gooks of Hazard".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_incidents_and_accidents

quote:

13 June 1991 – (Boeing 727) from Jeju to Daegu, the aircraft performed an unexpected gear-up landing at Daegu. The crew failed to read out the landing procedure checklist and therefore didn't select the gear down option. Subsequent investigation revealed that the pilot instructed the co-pilot to pull the fuse from the warning system because the repeated warnings that the landing gear was not deployed were, "irritating and distracting," him as he attempted to land. With the warning horn disabled, the Korean pilot brought the plane in and slid down the length of the runway on the central structural rib in the belly of the aircraft.

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C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
There was a serious fire at a party in a Oakland artist space.

Arsenic Lupin posted:

Fire codes exist for a reason department:
Yesterday a dance was held at an artists' space in a warehouse, the Oakland Ghost Ship. Because human occupancy, to say nothing of holding events open to the public, was illegal, there was (duh) no fire code inspection, no sprinklers, no marked exits. The second floor was reached by climbing up a stack of wooden pallets. As you can see from the pictures, the space was full of flammable objects, and walking through the space was an exercise in traversing a maze.

There was a fire. So far, nine people are known to be dead, but officials say there may be up to 40 total deaths.

reddit thread.

This sort of thing happens every few years, because complying with building codes and fire codes is both expensive and time-consuming.

reddit poster posted:

There was only one exit. I was on the top floor when the fire started, so I don't know how it got started. I distinctly remember thinking that this probably wasn't a big deal and/or that it was maybe a prank.

After the fire started I walked to the top of the stairs where there was only enough room for one maybe two people to go down at a time. At this point I still didn't think it was a big deal. It wasn't until a girl ahead of me came back up the stairs and yelled that "it's too thick everyone back up to the top." (This may not be exactly what she said but I'm this whole period is kind of a blur it's the gist of it however)

That was when I realized that this was very serious and that I was in big trouble. At this point I realized that my best shot at survival was to find my way down the stairs and and try and find the exit. My decision to go down was a coin flip at that point because I was terrified. The kind of fear I felt was not the kind of fear I have ever felt towards anything in my entire life. This was a primal sort of fear. I very much didn't care about other people making it out as long as I did at this point. Luckily I don't think I smashed into anybody or hit them on my way out. I completely lost track of my two friends during this time period to give an example of how one track minded I was. I feel really bad that I didn't care and I feel like I should have said something to all those people before I jumped down. Maybe give them a fighting chance if they realized that down was the only potential option for survival.

Bear in mind that the time it took for me to first see smoke and reach the top of the stairs before things got really bad was only like a minute.

So once I slipped and slid down the stairs keep in mind that these were the worst crafted stairs ever. (The first bit was like a ramp almost. And then the steps had varying heights sometimes almost coming up to thigh level. I'm 5'9 so while I'm not super tall that's enough for some of the steps to be way too tall for stairs.)

Once I made it down the stairs I tried to crawl to where I knew the exit was. I had a good general idea of its distance from me but I would have to find two doors and to try and get out. Even though I had an idea of where I was because of coming down the stairs the way I stumbled down basically made it so it's very likely that I wouldn't find an exit.

Once I was down there it was awful. I couldn't see or breathe. It was hot smoky and hard to focus. Thankfully at this point it wasn't so hot that I was burning just being there. There were other people crawling around on the floor too.

So I was down there and I was having trouble finding the exit. At this point I genuinely thought I was going to die choking on smoke in these horrid conditions. Part of this was definitely because the lower level is like a loving maze. The stair room had three different exits and only one would have been the way to outside.

So I had only been down on the floor for 15ish seconds. (Even though it genuinely felt like I was down there for eternity.) As I was down there blindly trying to find the door to get out I got really lucky. Some dude who had already gotten out stood right by the exit with all the billowing smoke and was repeatedly yelling "this is the exit" "exit." I can say without a doubt that that dude saved my life. If he wasn't there yelling I would have never found the exit and I probably would have died.

Once I got outside I ran into one of my friends who had been inside. He had been behind me to go down the stairs and had somehow gotten out in front of me. I was so happy that at least we had made it out.

The outside looked to me like a loving warzone. People were covered in soot and crying and hugging each other and screaming. Lots of people were calling out their friends names in an effort to find them. I just kind of stood and there and stared hoping that my other friend had made it out and that everyone would make it out safe.

Once I got out, only two more people made it out after I did.

In around five minutes or so the fire department showed up. by the time they reached the scene the entire building was in flames. For a thirty or so minute period I stood there waiting for the them to try and get people out in the vain hope that my other friend had made it out and that they would be able to get everyone out.

During this time period it really looked like the fire was starting to go down. And there was a chance of saving more lives. Unfortunately everyone's hopes were crushed when in the space of one second the fire got like three times worse. It started coming out the windows and the roof caught fire. I waited there for close to three or four hours hoping that we could get some information about our friend. I still don't know what happened to him or if he's even okay.

Also I should note that the building went up so fast. I'd have to say it was probably 3/4s on fire in under 3 minutes.

I'm really tired and the night is very blurry, plus i'm typing this on my phone so if there are any spelling/ grammar errors and the story isn't very coherent I apologize. I might have messed up some of the details as well. It's also very hard for me to talk about this but I still decided to because I think that my memory of the night is only going to get worse from here.

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
:catstare:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hvg2Wey92E

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

Baronjutter posted:

That 10'11 bridge or what ever proves no amount of flashing warnings and signage can stop idiot drivers from plowing into things.

And speaking of that, the first catastrophic kill since the new signs went up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n73xZf20O8Y

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
A issue with astronaut gloves themselves is that the thimbles can cause fingernail damage and detachment.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/09/100913-science-space-astronauts-gloves-fingernails-injury/

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
This one has footage from the officer's body camera.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D4h-wHqwGw

The ATV rider has been charged with attempted murder.
http://metro.co.uk/2016/12/23/quad-bike-rider-rams-police-officer-off-motorbike-in-dramatic-clip-6342184/

quote:

Defence lawyer Miikka Kunnari denied the charges, claiming the crash was accidental.

He said: ‘It was a pure accident. Foolish action, it is granted.’

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

Chomp8645 posted:

If the cop had a gun was Brazilian this never would have happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYt27WDpo4M
(they lived apparently)

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
He's referring to SERPA holsters I believe, which use a locking mechanism actuated by the trigger finger to release the gun. This goes into detail and references the video of the guy shooting his leg.
http://weaponsman.com/?p=16642

Former Delta Force commando and firearms trainer Larry Vickers:

quote:

I have banned for almost two years now Serpa style (trigger finger paddle release) holsters from my classes – several other instructors and training facilities have done the same. …. I understand many shooters use Serpa holsters on a regular basis with no issues whatsoever. However an open enrollment class environment has its own set of challenges … and a trigger finger paddle release holster is asking for trouble.

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
It's a testament to Admiral Rickover and the SUBSAFE program that the Navy has only lost two nuclear powered ships, and they were both submarines that were lost to reasons unrelated to the reactor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyman_G._Rickover

quote:

My program is unique in the military service in this respect: You know the expression 'from the womb to the tomb'; my organization is responsible for initiating the idea for a project; for doing the research, and the development; designing and building the equipment that goes into the ships; for the operations of the ship; for the selection of the officers and men who man the ship; for their education and training. In short, I am responsible for the ship throughout its life — from the very beginning to the very end.

Of course as you would expect, Reagan forced Rickover into retirement because he was going after defense contractors for delivering shoddy work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpAWiqwSw-U

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

Good marks for the ear protection and highvis vest, but this could have been avoided if he had been wearing a hard hat and reflective belt.

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

Baronjutter posted:

It's pretty interesting that Australia has like a whole unique class of vehicle not really seen anywhere else in the world. It's like if SUV's were only in Newzealand or hatch backs only existed in Japan.

They've also got agricultural motorcycles.
http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycles/honda-ctx-200/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OOg7vL3rNY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lyp0AtsODx4

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
"two-oh-nine, you might wanna back your unit up"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVsxjKJDja4

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unhXEQQk8G8

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
New USCSB report. :siren:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1KaykPaF8M

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl07BrckR10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGo1PRvFlWA

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

https://www.cnet.com/news/boat-captain-uses-ipad-as-compass-crashes-uk/

quote:

Last May, Carlin, 34, was at the helm of a 50-foot oak and mahogany boat named Peggotty. It hailed from the days of World War II and Carlin wanted to sell it. So he decided to sail it from Grimsby to Hull for a survey and brought along a representative for the potential buyer.

The Peggotty was, however, blessed with neither a compass, nor fully working navigational equipment.

Still, what could go wrong? The other man in the boat had an iPad.

iPads have apps that can do everything, after all. And, indeed, his passenger -- who had previously worked as the captain of a safety boat -- opened his navigational app and began directing the way across the Humber Estuary, a waterway that enjoys quite some traffic.

Then the Wi-Fi failed.

The mental navigation system in your mind already tells you that the Peggotty was struck by trouble. More precisely, it was struck by the Petunia Seaways, a cargo ship 1,400 times larger than the 50-footer. Indeed, the Petunia Seaways is so big that she felt nothing. She wafted along to Sweden.

Meanwhile, Carlin, who had heard one lone fog signal but wasn't sure where it had come from, had to issue a mayday as his boat began to sink. He and his passenger were rescued by a passing boat. The Peggotty had, indeed, strayed into a shipping lane.

The report says that the master of the Petunia Seaways reacted too late, as the Peggotty was visible. The master should also have sounded his foghorn more than once.

You might imagine that Carlin wasn't an experienced captain. However, even though this was off-duty activity, he's a pilot with Associated British Ports.

PDF of the report:
https://www.iims.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/MAIBInvReport04_2017.pdf

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

Austal is also the same company that hosed up half the Littoral Combat Ships because they figured they didn't need to isolate the steel waterjets from the aluminum hull, which has caused the hulls to have serious corrosion issues.

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

Olothreutes posted:

That's all DoE stuff. And yes, they are short funded.

The convoy pictured is Air Force, though.

Which means that instead of being short-funded and undermanned, everybody is cheating on their qualification exams. :v:

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
Probably been posted before but:

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
IIRC the driver was a catering company employee who wasn't licensed to drive around the airport. In the full video they immediately swap seats with their supervisor who was riding in the passenger seat.

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wmcD3aM8X4

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

ShadeofBlue posted:

Those computers are going to have to work really hard to actually manage to be less safe than human drivers.

I'm pretty sure I'll never see a computer drive a car down the freeway steering with it's knees because it's busy trying to smoke a bong.

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

PostNouveau posted:

Isn't the brake on a car just the same physical thing it always was though? Like there might be a program that would allow automatic braking, but it wouldn't ever interfere with the driver's ability to step on the brake and stop the car? I'd heard all those Toyota crashes were likely driver error after it was all said and done.

Driver error and "I want in on the fat payouts."

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

BattleMaster posted:

After listening to that a few times I've decided it sounds like it could have been ambient noise music from a new Doom or Quake game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yohb3uhnmrs

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

Turtlicious posted:

Right, but it seems pretty controlled, is Liquid Oxygen super flammable? Because it barely caught on fire when he set the whole cup on fire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9sIT6P_05I

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
The 70s were a different time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBtjVhRoAKM

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC5m20v9Y-k

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
drat, 2 hours from start to near totally burnt out.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2017/jun/14/grenfell-tower-major-fire-london-apartment-block-white-city-latimer-road

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
Guess the smoke evacuation system they just installed either didn't work or got overwhelmed.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...4b0bdd87e2f6964

quote:

Jody Martin said he got to the scene as the first fire engine was arriving at Grenfell Tower.

He told the BBC: “I grabbed an axe from the fire truck, it looked like there was a bit of confusion about what to do.

“I ran around the building looking for a fire escape and couldn’t see any noticeable fire escapes around the building. A lot of debris falling down.

“I eventually gained entry onto the second floor, and once I got to the corridor I realised there was so much smoke there.”

He added that given the thickness of the smoke, he would be surprised if anyone could have left the building without assistance.

“I watched one person falling out, I watched another woman holding her baby out the window ... hearing screams, I was yelling everyone to get down and they were saying, ‘We can’t leave our apartments, the smoke is too bad on the corridors’,” he said.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...4b0bdd87e2f6964

quote:

One resident, who did not want to give his name but said he lived “high up” in the tower, said no alarms went off as the fire started.

“I heard my neighbour’s smoke alarm go off, and thought nothing of it. Then I heard a neighbour shouting... I’m lucky to be alive – and lots of people have not got out of the building,” he said. “I’ve lost everything I own. I’m standing here in everything I’ve got.”

The building was an “accident waiting to happen”, he said, and there was not enough space at the base for fire engines to attend the scene.

He and others criticised the lack of information they were receiving. “There’s no coordination from anyone,” he said. “The police have not come to speak to us. We’ve been unable to give anyone our names.

“It’s been five hours. There’s people here who don’t have a clue if their relatives are alive or dead.”

Apparently the building has quite a history with safety hazards.
https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

Phanatic posted:

Plus hull and propulsion damage.

$50 says the CO has already been heloed off. Might by facing a court martial, which is rare for this.

The CO was apparently one of the wounded.
https://news.usni.org/2017/06/16/destroyer-uss-fitzgerald-collides-japanese-merchant-ship

quote:

Navy officials reported three patients requiring medical evacuation were taken off the ship. “One was Cmdr. Bryce Benson, Fitzgerald’s commanding officer, who was transferred to U.S. Naval Hospital Yokosuka and is reportedly in stable condition,” read a statement from U.S. 7th Fleet released on Friday about 9:15 EST.
“Other injured are being assessed. There are seven Sailors unaccounted for; the ship and the Japanese Coast Guard continues to search for them.”

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

Three-Phase posted:

Man that's the weirder area of Shutterstock.

https://twitter.com/darkstockphotos/

There's even a thread relevant one:

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INov9gQ2aUA

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuMSSHK4oNw
"Hey Ryan."
"Hey Billy.

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
A tractor commits suicide after being rescued.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4w6FuvSvBw

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M_OX-O9JKk

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
Looks like he was wearing PPE at least, at the end you can see the reflection from a face shield as he rolls away from the ingot. Though it depends on if he had it down when it hit him, or not.

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
Also in fire-related news, burning man attendee becomes burning man.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/96456312/horror-at-burning-man-festival-as-man-runs-into-the-flames

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

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C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
https://fearoflanding.com/accidents/accident-reports/experimental-jet-crashes-in-mojave/

quote:

The two men got permission to ‘do something cool’ with the abandoned aircraft which had never been finished.

And you'll never guess what happened next!

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