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Tigntink posted:"I remember FDR taking office like it was yesterday..." Sanders is allowed to remember the young man who influenced him greatly actually
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Goetta posted:It'd be cool to be able to tell 1970s Bernie Sanders that if he worked real hard someday he would eventually get a chance to poo poo all over Kissinger in front of millions of people Maybe next time, he'll poo poo all over Robert Moses. 
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Feb 12, 2016 06:36
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churchill was a safe and bad answer.
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euphemism posted:churchill was a safe and bad answer. He considered the man to be like a son, give him a break
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Feb 12, 2016 06:45
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euphemism posted:churchill was a safe and bad answer. It was safe, but not necessarily bad. Churchill brought a ton of people together around a single cause that otherwise hated each other. Bernie sees himself in the same vein.
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Feb 12, 2016 06:45
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NutritiousSnack posted:He considered the man to be like a son, give him a break haha this reminds me of a fdr joke i heard
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Feb 12, 2016 06:51
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KillHour posted:It was safe, but not necessarily bad. Churchill brought a ton of people together around a single cause that otherwise hated each other. Bernie sees himself in the same vein. Churchill was a eugenicist.
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Feb 12, 2016 06:52
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Agreed this is how I Feel 100% gently caress you human being liberals with your worthless women's studies degrees rot in hell TRUMP
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Feb 12, 2016 06:58
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Not a Step posted:Maternal leave is cool and good, but as the secondary earner who will be primary care giver for future offspring it would be nice to skip the battle over non traditional gender roles and implement maternal/paternal leave in one go. It's called it Family/Maternity leave and dads will not be left out.
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Feb 12, 2016 06:59
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Vile posted:Agreed this is how I Feel 100% I've got a math degree actually 
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Feb 12, 2016 07:13
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But they said woman's studies would be full of hot chicks...
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Feb 12, 2016 07:14
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KillHour posted:It was safe, but not necessarily bad. Churchill brought a ton of people together around a single cause that otherwise hated each other. Bernie sees himself in the same vein. Winston Churchill posted:The part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistic Jews ... is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others. With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes from Jewish leaders ... The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in (Hungary and Germany, especially Bavaria). R. Guyovich has issued a correction as of 07:30 on Feb 12, 2016 |
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Feb 12, 2016 07:20
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yeah the only question is would he get hammered on it, he didn't, thankfully. also i think attacking churchill is hard but hillary had the knowhow to do it.
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Feb 12, 2016 07:23
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memy posted:I've got a math degree actually loving SJW Nerd
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Feb 12, 2016 07:24
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Churchill was also the one who brought Stalin into the Allied cause. The Societ Union was too important.
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Feb 12, 2016 07:33
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gohmak posted:It's called it Family/Maternity leave and dads will not be left out. I'll believe it when I see it, but it would be nice.
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:Churchill was also the one who brought Stalin into the Allied cause. The Societ Union was too important. out of necessity, sure. his betrayal of greek partisans showed his true colors though and he hated the soviets more than the nazis
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Feb 12, 2016 07:37
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Not a Step posted:I'll believe it when I see it, but it would be nice. What is hard to believe? last year my city government job passed a new policy for 12 weeks paid leave just in time for our new child. I took mine after my wife returned to work after her 12 weeks unpaid.
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Feb 12, 2016 07:45
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Honestly it can be a hard question because pretty much every world leader is going to have a kernel of shittiness in their history (some more than others). Any figure the candidate references leaves them open to people digging up the worst parts of their record as if the candidates had intentionally, sincerely endorsed the entirety of that individual. The answers are less about the full reality of the alluded leader than the specific aspect that the candidate is evoking and their reasoning as to why that is important to them. That being said, Churchill is one of those figures that is in desperate need of deflating in US culture, much like Reagan.
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Feb 12, 2016 07:53
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Vile posted:Agreed this is how I Feel 100% They're moving towards calling it "gender studies" now. My college actually offers Masculinities (studying male gender roles) as a class some quarters. My friend, the cause of gender equality will set you free, when both men and women are freed from the restraints of rigid gender expectations and truly allowed the freedom to do whatever the gently caress they want. actually the ideal future probably involves finding a way to make physical transition between the sexes so easy that people do it all the time, so that most people experience being both a man and a woman. or maybe I have read far too much science fiction (but read John Varley's work everyone, Steel Beach is amazing).
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:Churchill was also the one who brought Stalin into the Allied cause. The Societ Union was too important. No dude that was hitler
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Neeksy posted:Honestly it can be a hard question because pretty much every world leader is going to have a kernel of shittiness in their history (some more than others). Any figure the candidate references leaves them open to people digging up the worst parts of their record as if the candidates had intentionally, sincerely endorsed the entirety of that individual. The answers are less about the full reality of the alluded leader than the specific aspect that the candidate is evoking and their reasoning as to why that is important to them. there are a few Cândido Rondons in there who were great dudes and also no one else knows enough about to "gotcha" you about
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Feb 12, 2016 08:01
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I'm like 15 minutes into this and getting bored since Hillary is just being her usual piece of poo poo human being and Bernie apparently doesn't have the balls to do anything but keep repeating his stump speech, are there any good moments along the lines of Christie crucifying Rubio to look forward to?
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Feb 12, 2016 09:42
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Vile posted:Agreed this is how I Feel 100% hey if you wanna be a winner and have a ton of sex in college do the exact opposite of what this guy says
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Feb 12, 2016 09:52
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Wheeee posted:I'm like 15 minutes into this and getting bored since Hillary is just being her usual piece of poo poo human being and Bernie apparently doesn't have the balls to do anything but keep repeating his stump speech, are there any good moments along the lines of Christie crucifying Rubio to look forward to? Very last sentence of the debate, before closing statements
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Feb 12, 2016 11:52
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I missed the debate last night and didn't see a summary in the last ten pages or so - how'd it go overall? Any general winner or especially interesting exchanges?
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Feb 12, 2016 13:49
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Sheikh Djibouti posted:I missed the debate last night and didn't see a summary in the last ten pages or so - how'd it go overall? Any general winner or especially interesting exchanges? Bernie pointed out that Henry Kissinger is a huge piece of poo poo, argued that regime change is often a poo poo strategy by schooling America about the US's role in loving up Iran.
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Feb 12, 2016 13:57
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Sheikh Djibouti posted:I missed the debate last night and didn't see a summary in the last ten pages or so - how'd it go overall? Any general winner or especially interesting exchanges? Bernie supporters thought he did real good. Hillary supporters thought she did real good. Focus groups in Nevada favored Bernie by large margins.
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Feb 12, 2016 13:58
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cheesetriangles posted:Bernie supporters thought he did real good. Hillary supporters thought she did real good. Focus groups in Nevada favored Bernie by large margins. I'm already seeing articles that Bernie was "disastrous" on foreign policy, though, which appears to the be the establishment line of attack on him.
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Feb 12, 2016 14:23
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I'm already seeing articles that Bernie was "disastrous" on foreign policy, though, which appears to the be the establishment line of attack on him. Of course he's disastrous, he doesn't support the forever war.
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Feb 12, 2016 14:31
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Bernie was way better on foreign policy than he has been previously
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I think it's bizarre how somebody can be "obviously stronger" on foreign policy, repeated universally among news outlets, with the specific points of the "strongness" never ever specified anywhere by anybody.
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Feb 12, 2016 14:35
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i believe "strongness" is closely tied to the ability to justify or plain ignore civilian casualties and human suffering in general
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Feb 12, 2016 14:40
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So was there anything actually of note or will this change things at all? I'm watching a "highlights" video but I'm just hearing the same things as always. edit: I liked Bernie blasting the GOP for being hypocrites on women's choices tho Gibberish has issued a correction as of 15:00 on Feb 12, 2016 |
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I'm already seeing articles that Bernie was "disastrous" on foreign policy, though, which appears to the be the establishment line of attack on him. There you go: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/12/bernie-sanders-squandered-lead-hillary-clinton-democratic-debate The way the Guardian treats Corbyn and Sanders is quite intersting, incidentally. The only bits still I still reading are the articles by Jeb Lund and Stewart Lee.
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I like people saying we shouldn't stick our dick into every single hornets nest in the middle east is somehow weak foreign policy. Because every military adventure in the region always ends amazingly well. Also gently caress off hillary with that rah rah killed bin laden garbage. Biden was right.
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Ibogaine posted:There you go: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/12/bernie-sanders-squandered-lead-hillary-clinton-democratic-debate Thats because they're not really a left wing paper and in particular are clearly upset their readership ignored them to vote for Corbyn instead of their neo-liberal choice. Frankie Boyle is also good most of the time
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Jose posted:Thats because they're not really a left wing paper and in particular are clearly upset their readership ignored them to vote for Corbyn instead of their neo-liberal choice. Frankie Boyle is also good most of the time are there any uk papers that are really left wing anymore, besides, like, the morning star? even the new statesman has turned to poo poo in the last decade
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