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Double hot takes on this debate: FRIEND'S HOT TAKE: I watched the debate with a room full of uber-liberal Toronto millennials(my friends). It was too drat cold to go out proper so we all got together for a house party and played a debate drinking game. At the start of the debate all my friends REALLY hated Trump, and in the end they all think he's the 'second best' and like him other than the 'racism stuff.' He was the most improved candidate in the eyes of the women in the room who still think he's a piece of garbage but they all hate Jeb!/Cruz/Rubio far worse now. Of course they all liked Kasich the most, but loved how Trump called out the Bush family and defended Planned Parenthood. So if Kasich left the race Trump won the Toronto ironic hipster vote. congrats Trump. MY HOT TAKE: It was the most TRUMP debate we've had since the first FOX debate and the first CNN debate, and it mixed with some new crazy. It really was the best debate. Trump was like a bull in a china shop. His fans loved it, Dems loved it, moderates loved it, classic 'conservatives' most likely hated it and think he bombed. Will it hurt him? Who's to say!? Jeb! did really well in the first few exchanges with Trump but blew himself apart when he kept bringing up his family unprompted. It made him look so damned weak in my opinion. He also lost just about every other exchange he had with the other candidates not named Trump. Cruz had a mixed bag. Trump super slammed him and he really tried to play the adult which may work for him... But then he came off silly in his exchange with Rubio(Was that Spanish?) so who knows. Rubio sort of skated by. Got dinged against Trump, but otherwise he was neither great nor terrible. I'm sure the establishment is crowing about his VICTORY and COME BACK right now as predicted. Kasich had the 'best' night as he looked sane and took it to Jeb when he needed to, but he also looked by far the most liberal while sharing a debate stage with Donald "Planned Parenthood does good stuff" Trump. Carson... He was there.
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Montasque posted:Kasich had the 'best' night as he looked sane and took it to Jeb when he needed to, but he also looked by far the most liberal while sharing a debate stage with Donald "Planned Parenthood does good stuff" Trump. https://twitter.com/cbschicago/status/698723690876264453
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Feb 14, 2016 06:39
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Defending PP is going to embolden the Cruztards who argue that Trump isn't a real conservative.
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Mr Hootington posted:It amazes me that height is a thing in the year of our Lord 2016. Seemed to be a workable system of government on Invader Zim.
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Alter Ego posted:Defending PP is going to embolden the Cruztards who argue that Trump isn't a real conservative. Absolutely already happening on Freep. Trump supporters don't care. They want their Trump, and tonight he was maximum Trump and they loved it.
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Alter Ego posted:Defending PP is going to embolden the Cruztards who argue that Trump isn't a real conservative. Good. They're the minority. And we know how Trump feels about minorities. (just kidding. he loves em!)
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Feb 14, 2016 06:41
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I really want to see post-debate polls now. It could go either way for Trump and the way it ends up going says a lot about the direction of American politics. (hint: trump won't be stumped)
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Is there anywhere to watch the debate in full online? My useless piece of poo poo local station said they'd air it at 9 local time (Pacific), but instead they're airing Jeopardy and whatnot. The CBS News Live feed picked it up on delay, and I've missed the first 45 minutes... hopefully they'll repeat it again. This is the second time that I've lost a debate on broadcast TV because the local station lied about when they'd broadcast it. It's getting really, really old.
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SNAKES N CAKES posted:That Carson supporter... That's not a Carson supporter. It's just a concerned citizen saying, "Has anyone seen this man in the past 24 hours?"
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SNAKES N CAKES posted:That Carson supporter... lmao
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Alter Ego posted:Defending PP is going to embolden the Cruztards who argue that Trump isn't a real conservative. I mean, he's not, as far as American politics goes.
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Not a Step posted:Fun fact, Baldwin was one of the main figures back in the early days of gamergate and helped the whole stupid thing explode out of the confines of lovely videogame nerds and lovely videogame journalists. WHAT THE gently caress STOP IT
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squidgee posted:I mean, he's not, as far as American politics goes. Trump is something beautiful, and special, and bloated, and orange. And he's all ours.
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Feb 14, 2016 06:51
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They dont care about conservatism, they care about a wall
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This debate will not hurt trump, like at all.
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Cnut the Great posted:Trump is something beautiful, and special, and bloated, and orange. And he's all ours. Why the gently caress is he so orange does he eat nothing but carrots?
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blue squares posted:WHAT THE gently caress STOP IT Wikipedia tells me he's credited with coming up with the word "GamerGate" e: Also it looks like he was an early "actually it's about ethics in gaming journalism" guy too Cockblocktopus has issued a correction as of 06:57 on Feb 14, 2016 |
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Despera posted:They dont care about conservatism, they care about a wall 
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Despera posted:They dont care about conservatism, they care about a wall Yep. Trump is not a conservative, he's a populist/nationalist.
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Mr Hootington posted:It amazes me that height is a thing in the year of our Lord 2016. Dude you live in Iowa you should know what cowboy boots look like.
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Feb 14, 2016 06:57
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There's also an ARG poll released yesterday that shows Kasich in second place in SC.
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Mystery Goomba posted:There's also an ARG poll released yesterday that shows Kasich in second place in SC. Every time I see that I can only think it means "Alternate Reality Game" and...honestly, the statement still kinda works.
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OAquinas posted:Every time I see that I can only think it means "Alternate Reality Game" and...honestly, the statement still kinda works. I would love an ilovebees-style ARG that follows the campaign trail. I'm surprised nobody has done that, actually -- their explicit purpose is to manufacture virality and engagement.
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I think trump's campaign spokeswoman said a while back explicitly that they see it as about globalism vs nationalism and not conservatism vs liberalism, so I doubt trump cares too much about being seen as Not A Real Conservative
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since we're doing HOT TAKES, here's mine Carson: Actually appeared to be there, if only to plug his website. Kasich: Came across as the moral high road, probably did very well in the eyes of the GOP. Cruz: Shot some Cruz missiles out, particularly in support of trump vis the donor audience. I actually liked his Sophomore spanish lesson against Rubio. Failed to really counter the accusations of vote fuckery though Jeb: Worst showing. Why the hell did he keep bringing his family up? What the hell was he doing talking about his mom so much? Overall acted like the kid at recess who has had enough of the bully and goes on the counter to initial (shock induced) success, only to be reminded of exactly why people call him the momma's boy. Rubio: Rubiobot.exe has recovered, now playing Reagan.mp4. Standby. Trump Treated the debate like a WWE showdown, and won said showdown. Absolutely smashed the populist vote and showed off the extreme splintering the GOP is suffering. THE MODERATOR/NEWS COVERAGE: Shamefully, painfully biased towards Rubio and Jeb. Softballed both of them hard.
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blue squares posted:Dude you live in Iowa you should know what cowboy boots look like. Most Iowans around my area wear normal shoes. Anyone that wears cowboy boots seriously are signaled as huge douchebags. Edit: Seriously I have never meet anyone that has said "boy the boots that guy is wear sure says he is a working joe like me."
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You'd think at some point it would start to sink in that the republican base, and trump's base, aren't exactly the same thing. The more this kind of thing happens, the more those two are going to diverge, and that should be completely loving terrifying for the GOP.
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If you see cowboys boots there's a 99% chance the owner's pickup spends the nights in a garage in the suburbs. Had a job up in the Indy exurbs and faux cowboys had absolutely taken over. All the legit farmers or laborers wore boots and/or were old hippies
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Mr Hootington posted:Most Iowans around my area wear normal shoes. Anyone that wears cowboy boots seriously are signaled as huge douchebags. Those boots actually looked remarkably like the ones rubio got all the crap for.
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One thing is sure, audience did not like Cruz during his spar with Rubio
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So just to make sure everyone knows the Internet polls with Trump winning are from the anime porn fiends right ?
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Mr Hootington posted:Most Iowans around my area wear normal shoes. Anyone that wears cowboy boots seriously are signaled as huge douchebags. There's nothing about JEB?!'s boots that is intended to be a connection to the average working joe.  But he's already kinda tallish, so it's just a stupid adopted-texan thing the Bushes all picked up. potato of destiny posted:Those boots actually looked remarkably like the ones rubio got all the crap for. Nah, these are the Rubio Lift Specials.  Similar shape, but these have a far more serious heel to them. OAquinas has issued a correction as of 07:35 on Feb 14, 2016 |
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OAquinas posted:There's nothing about JEB?!'s boots that is intended to be a connection to the average working joe. Worked the last couple times they tried it, and Trump's doing the same turbo-elite-pretending-to-understand-common-man thing, why not roll with it? It's sad to say that it seems to work edit - the boots bit won't work though, the salt of the earth has never identified with spit shined cowboy boots. A Texas drawl and photoshoots on a ranch is the ticket Epic High Five has issued a correction as of 07:45 on Feb 14, 2016 |
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Epic High Five posted:If you see cowboys boots there's a 99% chance the owner's pickup spends the nights in a garage in the suburbs. Had a job up in the Indy exurbs and faux cowboys had absolutely taken over. All the legit farmers or laborers wore boots and/or were old hippies This is spot on for Iowa. When we see what shoes candidates are wearing they are cowboy boots we laugh. A real worker has scuffed up work boots with dirt ground so far into the leather that you can not polish it out. Plus those boots. Those boots were your grandpas and have been repaired and passed down. It blows me away that they think the bs of polished, new work boots/fake cowboy boots passes up here. Wear sneakers or business casual loafers to connect you gently caress tards.
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OAquinas posted:There's nothing about JEB?!'s boots that is intended to be a connection to the average working joe. You would reckon he might spend some of that campaign petty cash on some polish for the outsole.
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McGlockenshire posted:Is there anywhere to watch the debate in full online? My useless piece of poo poo local station said they'd air it at 9 local time (Pacific), but instead they're airing Jeopardy and whatnot. The CBS News Live feed picked it up on delay, and I've missed the first 45 minutes... hopefully they'll repeat it again. FWIW if anyone is having this problem the CBS News streaming link in the OP is airing the debate from the start once more right now.
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