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Likely it's going to be based loosely on the book. Sadie will die, the assassination will be stopped, Jake returns to the future to find it dumb, so he goes back and finds Sadie in Maine and just lives happily ever after without loving with any more time. Maaaybe he'll save the janitor's family. The end. I really don't see it going any other way. There won't be a payoff with the Yellow Card Man, save maybe him nodding solemnly at Jake after Jake resets and just goes to be with Sadie.
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wanted to watch a show about time travel poo poo not high school teacher simulator
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Mar 31, 2016 06:50
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Mr. Unlucky posted:wanted to watch a show about time travel poo poo not high school teacher simulator yeah well that's just like your opinion man, not an actual criticism of the show normal people like shows about people and relationships and stuff, not scifi have you watched doctor who?
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Mar 31, 2016 07:24
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Mr. Unlucky posted:wanted to watch a show about time travel poo poo not high school teacher simulator lol
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Mar 31, 2016 08:05
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Lee was great, the whole show should have been about him visiting various government agencies and complain about mass surveillance and capitalism. he could have visited the ATF, CIA, NSA, ATF, IRS, DMV, the Secret Service or maybe even the FDA.
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Mar 31, 2016 11:57
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waitwhatno posted:Lee was great, the whole show should have been about him visiting various government agencies and complain about mass surveillance and capitalism. he could have visited the ATF, CIA, NSA, ATF, IRS, DMV, the Secret Service or maybe even the FDA.
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Mar 31, 2016 12:13
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I straight up don't understand what the deal with the TV version of The Yellow Card Man is. He's caught in a time loop, but can also just pop in and gently caress with Franco if he wants??
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Mar 31, 2016 14:12
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egon_beeblebrox posted:I straight up don't understand what the deal with the TV version of The Yellow Card Man is. He's caught in a time loop, but can also just pop in and gently caress with Franco he wants?? He's probably from some other time where the technology available allows him more control over where/when he travels.
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Mar 31, 2016 14:13
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Basebf555 posted:He's probably from some other time where the technology available allows him more control over where/when he travels. Not even headcanon can reconcile this. 
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Mar 31, 2016 16:53
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ExtraNoise posted:Not even headcanon can reconcile this. What if he's from a future so advanced he actually has a head cannon?
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Mar 31, 2016 22:38
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Basebf555 posted:He's probably from some other time where the technology available allows him more control over where/when he travels. He's from the future that The Flash comes from in Batman v Superman: Warner Bros' Corporate Mandated Superhero Movie #2
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waitwhatno posted:Lee was great, the whole show should have been about him visiting various government agencies and complain about mass surveillance and capitalism. he could have visited the ATF, CIA, NSA, ATF, IRS, DMV, the Secret Service or maybe even the FDA. Lee is a cool guy he's actually very misunderstood by history. That scene where he went to the FBI and left a letter for Hosty actually happened in irl life
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Apr 1, 2016 07:24
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I think this episode actually was kind of fun although they could've seriously improved the opening scene if they left out the loving time. That way it would've been a good "oh poo poo he slept through 50 years" moment although him not having aged would've thrown people off I guess. Anyway I'm not expecting a reset anymore so judging from my past success at guessing resets, next (the last?) episode is gonna be a long 50-minute reset montage. Called it. 
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Apr 1, 2016 16:48
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Vanderdeath posted:He's from the future that The Flash comes from in Batman v Superman: Warner Bros' Corporate Mandated Superhero Movie #2 Can't wait for Randall Flagg to show up in Justice League.
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Apr 1, 2016 17:46
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Ein cooler Typ posted:Lee is a cool guy he's actually very misunderstood by history. Holy poo poo, he was such a dweeb in real life, the actor nailed it: quote:Almost immediately after arriving, Oswald told his Intourist guide of his desire to become a Soviet citizen. When asked why by the various Soviet officials he encountered—all of whom, by Oswald's account, found his wish incomprehensible—he said that he was a communist, and gave what he described in his diary as "vauge [sic] answers about 'Great Soviet Union'".[56] On October 21, the day his visa was due to expire, he was told that his citizenship application had been refused, and that he had to leave the Soviet Union that evening. Distraught, Oswald inflicted a minor but bloody wound to his left wrist in his hotel room bathtub soon before his Intourist guide was due to arrive to escort him from the country, according to his diary because he wished to kill himself in a way that would shock her.[56] Delaying Oswald's departure because of his self-inflicted injury, the Soviets kept him in a Moscow hospital under psychiatric observation until October 28, 1959. Someone trying to get into the Soviet Union, instead out of it? They must have thought that he is mentally retarded or something. 
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waitwhatno posted:Someone trying to get into the Soviet Union, instead out of it? They must have thought that he is mentally retarded or something. The conspiracy theory being that he was a CIA spy trying to infiltrate the USSR, but yeah...kind of a bad spy.
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Apr 1, 2016 23:09
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I don't know how to feel about this last episode. It was crazy. The middle of the series was pretty crap but I'm glad they bookended it with decent episodes.
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Apr 4, 2016 06:16
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ep 1 and 8 were good 8 was almost exactly what happened in the end of the novel too bad about the filler 2-6 eps I could have made a better miniseries I guess the pacing of the middle just works better in a novel it's like poetry; it rhymes   even the real image is in color but they have to make it black and white on the tv show because that's how old photographs are Ein cooler Typ fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Apr 4, 2016 |
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Apr 4, 2016 07:12
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Haven't watched the episode yet but I was reading up on Oswald yesterday, the dude was basically LF personified:quote:During an interrogation with Captain Fritz, when asked, "Are you a communist?", he replied, "No, I am not a communist. I am a Marxist."
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Apr 4, 2016 10:26
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A good book to read is Oswald's Tale by Norman Mailer It was written in the 90s and he got access to lots of KGB documents and tapes from when they were surveilling LHO
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Apr 4, 2016 11:49
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I liked the ending. Middle of the series got a little saggy but nonetheless worth the watch.
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Apr 4, 2016 18:45
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I'd still use the tunnel to get cheap food and beer after all that.
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Apr 4, 2016 18:58
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I enjoyed the ending. Strong episode and it's no coincidence it pretty well follows the book. Overall I didn't dislike the series, but if it hadn't been for Franco, Gadon, and Webber it would have been far lower in quality. I really dug the final episode. Perfect amount of bittersweet, though that whole thing always reminded me of Somewhere in Time with Chris Reeve and Jane Seymour.
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Apr 4, 2016 19:07
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What's the deal with the time travelling hobo and why does he have a yellow card in his hat? I get that he is a time traveller and obsessed with saving someone, but this doesn't answer anything, it just brings up more questions.
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Apr 4, 2016 19:52
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Lesson learned: Don't do anything to make people's life better, they will be better off without it.
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Apr 4, 2016 19:59
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waitwhatno posted:What's the deal with the time travelling hobo and why does he have a yellow card in his hat? The show barely explains anything and deviates drastically from the book. In the book there's some Time Cops that watch the exit to the portal, and the card is kind of like a radiation dose meter but for time fuckery - it goes Green > Yellow > Orange > Black the more time fucks up. Problem is that these Time Cops start going mental the more time they spend watching the portal due to all the stresses of loving with time. Yellow Card Man is a Time Cop that's coming unhinged, but eventually he's fully replaced by a new Time Cop after poo poo goes south when Jake saves Kennedy. Even in the book it's not really A Thing so much as kind of a litmus test for how hosed up everything is.
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Apr 4, 2016 20:07
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I really preferred the book's "conclusion" in regards to how time travel actually works and the side effects of changing the past, I understand it could have been rather difficult to convey the full gravity of the situation as it is in the book so they went with a simpler malevolent butterfly effect conclusion thingy but the extra depth King goes into in the book really serves to elevate the ending of the book to a different level.
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Apr 4, 2016 20:17
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I liked the title sequence falling apart on the final episode. And, in the book, how much did the world get messed up after Kennedy was saved?
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Apr 4, 2016 23:27
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I kind of wish they would have explained more what happened differently. He kept saying "yeah but then the bombs." What bombs? Nuclear bombs? Did Russia bomb the US? What the hell happened? Kennedy wasn't president but also somehow founded some refugee camps? Instead Jake is asking if 9/11 happened or not.
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Apr 4, 2016 23:30
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Cojawfee posted:I kind of wish they would have explained more what happened differently. He kept saying "yeah but then the bombs." What bombs? Nuclear bombs? Did Russia bomb the US? What the hell happened? Kennedy wasn't president but also somehow founded some refugee camps? Instead Jake is asking if 9/11 happened or not. Yeah, the glossing over of the alternate future was frustrating. I wanted to know how poo poo went hinky with JFK alive but they barely scratched the surface. It cheapened the whole conceit of the show, in my opinion.
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Apr 4, 2016 23:53
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From what i got, George Wallace became president after Kennedy and started a war, I'm guessing with Russia. Post-president Kennedy started refugee camps.
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Apr 5, 2016 00:12
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Never read the book but holy poo poo I loved the ending of the series. It was quite beautiful.
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Apr 5, 2016 00:28
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X-O posted:Never read the book but holy poo poo I loved the ending of the series. It was quite beautiful. Read the book, it's even better. poundcake
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Apr 5, 2016 00:39
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X-O posted:Never read the book but holy poo poo I loved the ending of the series. It was quite beautiful. The beginning and the ending were basically the same. The episodes in between changed a lot. I'm pretty happy with it overall, though.
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Apr 5, 2016 00:59
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Does the book go into detail about what happens with a living Kennedy?
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Cojawfee posted:Does the book go into detail about what happens with a living Kennedy? Basically the past pushing back causes earthquakes and other disasters, on top of the wars and general bad voodoo.
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major spoilers I guess the new time hole monitoring guy tells Jake that the rabbit hole doesn't truly fully reset the timelines and that the major changes to the timeline caused by his saving of JFK are somehow fundamentally destroying reality, when he gets back to the present it's not just a war torn world he encounters there's actual apocalyptic phenomena all over the place. In the book there's already a major earthquake that kills 7,000 people in california a couple of days after Jake saves JFK and reality basically starts going off the rails at that point so the new past Jake discovers when he returns is less of an alternative history and more of the world kinda falling apart rather rapidly.
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Apr 5, 2016 01:25
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So do you guys think Jake gets laid after the award ceremony or not?
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Apr 5, 2016 03:23
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One cool detail from the book was that the time cops start going insane specifically because time travelers don't change the past, by changing things they create a new universe according to the many worlds theory of time travel. And it is the time cops' responsibility to remember every single alternate reality and everything that happened in them. Its easy for the first time cop to remember that some dude from the future comes back 1000 times to buy cheap hamburger. It drives him insane when he has to remember every change from Amberson going back to kill Kennedy.
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The ending translated really well from the book to the show. It was touching and a good finale. Hpwever, the journey from beginning to end that didn't connect on the show, and they even sort of tried a few things to keep it interesting in the series but somehow it still just didn't resonate the way the book's middle pages did. On the show it just felt more like they were killing time until 11/22/63. The "time loop" thing for the yellow card man never ended up making sense. I mean, because that guy was caught in a time loop trying to save his kid, he just faded in and out of reality around Jake and hosed with Jake to teach him a lesson? And why does Sadie die "every time" according to him if Jake actually was able to save the janitor and save Kennedy, and Sadie doesn't even die period in the normal timeline? And how is it a "loop" if Jake can just go back to the present and quit trying at any time? Just didn't make sense. Even in the book I was kind of rooting for Jake to just go back to the past and chill there with Sadie forever, but here the reasoning for not doing that was weaker because of the weird yellow card man stuff. Sadie was so sweet and beautiful  Overall, pretty good premiere except when it went a little off the rails with the roaches for example, and very nice finale. The middle kind of lagged after saving the janitor.
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