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Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

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Tiggum posted:

Yeah, that seemed to be the message. Seems like a pretty terrible message, but there it is.

Yep. It comes back to the issue of Jake not resetting at all ever. Why bring that up at the start only to do basically nothing with it?

That sounds even dumber than the TV version.

Oh, so not time travel, just pointless time-wasting. Glad I didn't read the book.

Yep, that guy was a wizard. Anything that didn't make sense was because of magic. This show was bad.

Which would have been a much better show!

Yeah, time "pushing back" was really not in evidence at all through most of the plot.

Yeah, when he came back to the past and started chasing her I literally said "Oh, so he hasn't learned anything then." You can't go running down the street in soaking wet clothes in the middle of a bright sunny day yelling at some woman who doesn't know you, that is what a crazy person would do.

That whole thing made no sense. How the gently caress did the Kennedys get an accurate report of what had happened when the police and FBI were still trying to figure it out?

Maybe there's some context in the book that makes this ending seem somehow satisfying, but based solely on its own merits it's garbage. This show was garbage. And that ending? Rather than finding out how this experience has affected our protagonist, we get to see that Sadie lived a life? Yeah, so? Who gives a poo poo? We knew she was a person who lived a life without Jake in the original timeline anyway, now it's just gone back to how it was before. Nothing loving happened. And like I said earlier, Jake learned nothing, and he hasn't changed in any noticeable way, he's just gone back to his old life as though none of it happened. What was the loving point?


The book handles the post-assassination attempt better because Jake had already had multiple contacts with the Secret Service leading up to it. They were watching Oswald as well as Jake, but they were largely incompetent and easily-bluffed by Jake whenever they confronted him. Post-assassination attempt the Secret Service just wanted him to go away and were willing to get him quietly out of town to meet his "contacts from your home country for extraction that are waiting for you" (they thought he was a Soviet spy, of all things) if he wouldn't expose their incompetence in interviews.

Also he really hammers on the story that he and Sadie were the reason JFK was alive, and how they need to show more respect for Sadie sacrificing herself to stop Oswald. The audiobook narrator does a really good job telling the story that I don't know would necessarily read the same way if you just read the book.

In the book, when Jake dances with Old-Sadie, there are hints in her conversation with him that she feels like she knows him from somewhere and the memories may be coming in even though they technically happened to a different Sadie. The book ends mid-dance, so we never really find out what happens to them.

Never mind that it would be a terrible thing to actually have happen to someone, because they might go insane, but that's Stephen King for you. Seems like the end of every book has to have some element of something that has some kind of existential horror to it.

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