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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > The Limits of Free Speech and Money as Speech
 
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rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
There's too much loving speech! Just shut the gently caress up, everyone, I'm trying to shitpost here!!!

Helsing posted:

Are you intending for this to be a discussion of the philosophy of government in general or are you specifically trying to have a question about how to interpret the US constitution when faced with 21st century problems such as terrorism, electronic security and the growth of a powerful state security apparatus? Do you particularly care about cases outside of the US or this basically a matter of domestic US politics? For that matter, why are you so focused on cases where the US government threatens the speech of American citizens while saying nothing about the US suppressing the speech of non-citizens?
Well it seems more like a twist on philosophy of government vs. the new problems of terrorism, electronic security and the security state. If that's the angle, my primary thought is that all these problems are a result of liberalism kind of falling apart, in teh face of a polarizing society. The ideal of Do As You Please only works so long as most people kind of do the same thing anyway, so that the outliers don't matter. The practical reality is that every single society, if it's to function, needs common standards, and if those standards change, everyone should change with them. It's also important to debate on what those standards should be, and be rational & compassionate about it. But what we're seeing is that's not happening, instead society is becoming more polarizing, and it's going to lead to a civil war. So, how do you get everyone to conform enough such that everyone feels like they're safe and comfortable, without unfairly marginalizing and hurting innocent people?

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