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Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

CommissarMega posted:

I think it should depend on the kind of sex being shown, really- if it's two people making love on silk sheets, plenty of foreplay, kissing and bedroom equality, then I for one would be all for it. Stuff where a bunch of men are running a train on a girl and the like, not to mention Japanese porn? Yeah, you're too young for that, little man!

I'm trying to imagine what the equivalent of that awful anti-anti-social behavior message would be like in a sex positive society. Because you know someone would find a way to ruin everything.

ImpAtom posted:

Generally I am not fond of censorship involving adults in adult-oriented material. I feel pretty differently when it involves kids. The infamous recent spat of changes to Nintendo games for example is not particularly something I find particularly objectionable because it heavily focuses around the sexualization of underage characters and it's a choice between not releasing it at all or changing it to remove material that frankly just is hosed up from a non-thematic perspective.

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Did I miss a post? When I hear "Nintendo censorship" I think of them demanding cross gravestones be changed to generic RIP slabs and requiring the attack dogs in Wolfenstein 3d be changed to giant rats.

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Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

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Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

ImpAtom posted:

There are a few examples.

Recently a game called Xenoblade Chronicles X came out which features a 13 year old cast member. It is a game which has an extreme amount of skimpy armor as video games are known to do and they censored it by giving her exclusive versions of most of the armors toned down to be less, uh, that. I'd post pictures but see aforementioned 13 year old. It was largely stuff like adding extra black cloth or giving the character a shirt when other versions of the costumes don't have a shirt.

There was another one called Fatal Frame where a scene involves a young character wearing an extremely skimpy bikini. This is actually somewhat plot-relevant (it's part of the story that she feels uncomfortable being stuck in that outfit in a horror situation) but it was pretty blatantly a thinly-veiled attempt to include a young character wearing a skimpy bikini so they adjusted it despite the fact it makes the scene make less sense as-written.

It's largely stuff like that. Bravely Default had a "brave bikini' which was absurdly scanty and they made it merely skimpy (and also bumped the character's ages up though only by a year or two so I guess it depends on if 14-15 is less creepy than 13.)

I'd totally forgotten about those.

I also hadn't realized the xenoblade character is actually 13. She's kind of an amorphous moeblob. For some reason that offends me more than the skimpy outfits.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

Your Dunkle Sans posted:

Movies that depict the US military and take their funding/advice from them already whitewash/self-censor any negative depictions AFAIK.

Particularly any that are allowed to, eg, film on the deck of an aircraft carrier, or arrange fighter fly-bys. Can't really blame the military on that one, honestly.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

Spek posted:

Dungeons and Dragons Online had something very similar. The word bastard was censored and D&D contains bastard swords. So you'd occasionally see people trying to trade their +3 Holy ******* Sword of Pure Good or the like. I don't think that was ever fixed, not while I still played at least, though it was an unpopular item type so it didn't come up too much.

Dark Souls 2 has a filter like that. It censors sequences of letters in the middle of words, resulting in filtering "Persephone" to "Persep**ne" and "Knight" to "K***ht." I had to stare at that second one a while to figure out what had happened.

On top of this, the banned word list apparently includes "dog." :pwn:

foobardog posted:

One of the hardest things to do about representation is not just representing good people but showing that someone can be homosexual but still be a bad person for other reasons. You have to find this balance between mincing evil stereotypes, and sterile token characters. Equilibrium is a dumb movie for a lot of reasons, but the fact that the main villain was black without being a black stereotype was really good, and something that should happen. And I don't remember any other black characters, but I never felt like he was a villain because he was black.

But yeah, if only the bad characters have those traits, that's not a good place to start. Japan is in general not really as far along on gay acceptance as you might think as a teenager discovering yaoi and yuri for the first time. Or perhaps they were better in the 90s and the US has passed them, I don't know.

Uh... anyway, I'm derailing.

I asked some of my anime friends about this, and they say yaoi is generally targeted at girls, and yuri at grown-rear end men.

Additionally, it's seen as common and not unhealthy/abnormal for girls to go through a lesbian phase, but they're expected to grow out of it and date guys like grown-ups.

So yeah, the US appears to be ahead of Japan. Beyond that, though, Nintendo is...weird. Around about 2003 when Xbox Live had developed into a Big Deal, the president of Nintendo commented that online multiplayer was "a fad." Flash forward to the latest Smash Brothers game and Nintendo proudly described during interviews how if a connection is interrupted it will seamlessly replace your human opponent with an AI one. They said this as if it were a good thing that you can never know whether the come-from-behind victory you pulled was against a real person.

Point is, I have no goddamn clue whether Nintendo is representative of Japanese social mores as a whole, or if this is just another issue they're out of touch on.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

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Lord Lambeth posted:

Poison is a character in Final Fight and later Street Fighter. Originally she was female but she was changed to a transsexual because they thought "hitting women was considered rude" in America. They've since gone back and forth since then on whether she's post or pre-op transsexual.

Also she is named after the hair metal band, obviously.

All the while street fighter does just fine with Cammy, sakura, etc.

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Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

AlphaKretin posted:

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On a note more amusing than bitter, one free WiFi network I sometimes use blocks these forums (though not the front page) under "weapons", presumably just because the favicon is a grenade.

There's an entire subboard about guns.

VVV fair point.

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