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What if the Homeless in question is kept from the free bed due to poverty
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Apr 16, 2016 22:59
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it's pretty easy to get a cheap smart phone even if you're homeless the problem is charging it + a data plan
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Apr 17, 2016 04:57
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I love the idea that people are abusing food banks.
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Apr 17, 2016 07:17
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i am harry posted:I love the idea that people are abusing food banks. The poors are bad remember
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Apr 17, 2016 07:30
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i am harry posted:I love the idea that people are abusing food banks. That actually happened around here during Thanksgiving a few years ago but not in the way you would expect. There was some charity or church or something giving out free turkeys to poor families. I'm not quite sure how they distributed the turkeys or collected data on families, but they figured out that there were a few "families" not only posing as separate individual entities to get multiple turkeys but also were anything but poor. Chances are someone saw Joe Douchebag and his family who goes to x church every Sunday and owns 6 Mcdonalds franchises loading up his car with multiple turkeys right outside the loving place, reported it, and the media somehow got involved. Literally people with annual incomes of $100k-$200k defrauding a charity during loving Thanksgiving because they didn't want to finance their 40+ person private party and "gently caress the poor".
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Apr 17, 2016 10:04
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Avalanche posted:That actually happened around here during Thanksgiving a few years ago but not in the way you would expect. There was some charity or church or something giving out free turkeys to poor families. I'm not quite sure how they distributed the turkeys or collected data on families, but they figured out that there were a few "families" not only posing as separate individual entities to get multiple turkeys but also were anything but poor. Chances are someone saw Joe Douchebag and his family who goes to x church every Sunday and owns 6 Mcdonalds franchises loading up his car with multiple turkeys right outside the loving place, reported it, and the media somehow got involved. No, that's exactly the way I'd expect.
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Apr 17, 2016 13:22
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Popular Thug Drink posted:it's pretty easy to get a cheap smart phone even if you're homeless All the parks in this town a little patio area with outlets. Plus the library, the shelter, the soup kitchen....plenty of places. Plus with free WiFi from businesses, it's not hard to get by with just a voip number. A data plan is only 45/mo though. It's not hard to hustle up 45/mo. Hell, collecting random recycling can get you that much. Plus the lifeline (obama)phone has a dirt cheap data option as well. My smartphone was all of $30 brand new. It's totally possible to be homeless because 600/mo for rent isn't doable, but 100/mo for data and other odds and ends is.
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Apr 17, 2016 14:00
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AA is for Quitters posted:All the parks in this town a little patio area with outlets. Plus the library, the shelter, the soup kitchen....plenty of places. What a lovely post
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Apr 18, 2016 15:22
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Twerkteam Pizza posted:What a lovely post No it isn't.
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Apr 18, 2016 16:06
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TheImmigrant posted:No it isn't. I'll retract my statement when businesses don't require you to buy poo poo for wifi in CBus. It's common practice here
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Apr 18, 2016 17:00
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Twerkteam Pizza posted:I'll retract my statement when businesses don't require you to buy poo poo for wifi in CBus. It's common practice here That...sucks. Around here you usually have to agree to ToS, but you can pick the signal up from the street. What city do you live in where not even McDonald's has free WiFi? There's a lot of places that lock down wifi, but restaurants and bars rarely do, at least in all the places I've been. It's entirely possible to be homeless in a lot of places in the states and still be able to use a smartphone for email/job hunting/Facebook/whatever even without paying a dime for data.
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Apr 18, 2016 17:23
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AA is for Quitters posted:All the parks in this town a little patio area with outlets. Plus the library, the shelter, the soup kitchen....plenty of places. assuming you can find a carrier who's cool with you putting "Address: the bushes by the bus station" on your contract. lack of a fixed address is a big hurdle for many homeless trying to work the process to get homed
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Apr 18, 2016 17:25
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Popular Thug Drink posted:assuming you can find a carrier who's cool with you putting "Address: the bushes by the bus station" on your contract. lack of a fixed address is a big hurdle for many homeless trying to work the process to get homed There's a reason that pre-paid phones are so popular.
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Apr 18, 2016 17:26
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AA is for Quitters posted:That...sucks. Around here you usually have to agree to ToS, but you can pick the signal up from the street. What city do you live in where not even McDonald's has free WiFi? Columbus OH, OSU campus area. OSU started a "wifi pass" program for the 2015-2016 year where off campus businesses can either charge non-students or make students sign in with their student ID
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Apr 18, 2016 17:33
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Subjunctive posted:There's a reason that pre-paid phones are so popular. yeah, as i pointed out it's difficult to get a plan when you're homeless
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Apr 18, 2016 17:39
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Popular Thug Drink posted:yeah, as i pointed out it's difficult to get a plan when you're homeless which is ok because pre-paid phones don't need a plan. you buy them at 7/11 and add money with cash. that's the whole point, they don't require credit or any personal information, which is why they're popular with drug dealers and so forth.
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Apr 18, 2016 17:44
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ok thank you for explaining my own posts to me
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Apr 18, 2016 17:47
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Popular Thug Drink posted:assuming you can find a carrier who's cool with you putting "Address: the bushes by the bus station" on your contract. lack of a fixed address is a big hurdle for many homeless trying to work the process to get homed It's not a real hurdle. I'm not even particularly brilliant, and I figured out how to receive mail at a non-PO Box address when I was by definition homeless.
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Apr 18, 2016 17:57
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Popular Thug Drink posted:ok thank you for explaining my own posts to me You don't need a phone plan to get a smartphone, your point was a lack of address makes getting a phone plan to become homed impossible. Unless you just meant in general, not having an address is bad for being rehomed. In that case thanks for a non-sequitur and snippy non-discussion?
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Apr 18, 2016 18:31
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i am harry posted:I love the idea that people are abusing food banks. It does occasionally happen... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIQdaDoqXsE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Quztne89kk8
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Apr 19, 2016 00:25
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i am harry posted:I love the idea that people are abusing food banks. The Daily Mail (a newspaper founded by a literal nazi) paid one of their 'journalists' to steal food from a food bank, on Easter loving Sunday, to prove how 'easy' it was.  I especially like how the headline is "...no questions asked", but then the article goes on to list a long list of questions the reporter was asked, to which he responded with complete lies that would make any decent human being feel sympathy enough to provide a few quid worth of food.
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Apr 22, 2016 11:43
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Quote-Unquote posted:The Daily Mail (a newspaper founded by a literal nazi) paid one of their 'journalists' to steal food from a food bank, on Easter loving Sunday, to prove how 'easy' it was. Haha what the hell. "The system works, here is why that's bad!" Shame is generally a good motivator to keep crooks out of a system. You can get free food if you lie through your teeth but if you don't need to why would you? It's the same with unemployment. In my opinion people want to work and if they are on welfare they will look for a job without you forcing it. I was on welfare for a few months a little over 10 years ago and it was nice not being homeless while I looked for work. There's always a few people who will coast on welfare but they are a minority and well worth the security it provides to those who want to contribute. Demiurge4 fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Apr 22, 2016 |
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Apr 22, 2016 13:49
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Shouldn't there be some sort of shame or punishment for knowingly lying to a food bank and writing a story about it?
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Apr 22, 2016 14:29
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Demiurge4 posted:Haha what the hell. "The system works, here is why that's bad!" There were over a million visits to foodbanks in the UK last year, and every single one required a note from a doctor or a social worker. One woman, on one visit, got caught selling the food she was given (extremely cheap, to other hungry people) in order to purchase drugs, to satiate her addiction. This led to a brief moral outrage after the Daily Heil printed a sensational article about this story, in which people insisted that food banks be shut down entirely because they are funding drug dealers (and therefore terrorists). Crabtree posted:Shouldn't there be some sort of shame or punishment for knowingly lying to a food bank and writing a story about it? He gave the food back after being called a number of unpleasant names on the internet (many rightly pointing out that he and his employer claim to be Christian, yet he literally stole food from the poor on Easter Sunday). The Daily Heil continues to publish stories about how food banks are completely unnecessary and literally nobody using them is in genuine need. There's usually one article every week, minimum. Quote-Unquote fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Apr 22, 2016 |
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Apr 22, 2016 14:30
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Quote-Unquote posted:There were over a million visits to foodbanks in the UK last year, and every single one required a note from a doctor or a social worker. Even our own conservative shitheads in the US don't stoop as low as to fight against food banks. Bathrooms on the other hand...
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Apr 22, 2016 14:45
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A literal nazi posted:But one couple, identified as April Hope, 42, and Leon Ashby, 49, walked out with six bags. They were joined by a man, known only as Rex, who had two bags. The article straight up says that the food bank is preventing desperate people from committing crimes such as shoplifting and burglary, that the couple doing this are deliberately going to people that can't afford to buy much themselves so that they can get cheap food (again, not everyone gets to go to the food bank, you have to have a note from a doctor or social worker, and you can only go a few times a year), and that in particular they're helping a pensioner that is struggling to get by. And finally they say that the trust (a charity, funded mainly by the church) that runs these food banks is taking measures to help get junkies proper help. But we still have to shut down the food banks because that's what Jesus would want or something, I don't know, here's some borderline child porn (seriously, never ever google 'Daily Mail All Grown Up' unless you want to end up on a watch list.
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Apr 22, 2016 15:06
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Denmark has been experimenting with public drug clinics for a few years. Addicts can turn up and get high in a clean place with doctors around with drugs given to them by said doctors (that is, clean drugs) on the condition they agree to councelling and rehab programs. Unsurprisingly, petty crime dropped by a large percentage in areas it was introduced.
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Apr 22, 2016 16:18
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TheImmigrant posted:It's not a real hurdle. I'm not even particularly brilliant, and I figured out how to receive mail at a non-PO Box address when I was by definition homeless. Yeah but you're pretty much a pathological liar so that's bullshit.
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Apr 22, 2016 16:20
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Demiurge4 posted:Denmark has been experimenting with public drug clinics for a few years. Addicts can turn up and get high in a clean place with doctors around with drugs given to them by said doctors (that is, clean drugs) on the condition they agree to councelling and rehab programs. Uhhh... sounds kinda good, but!!! gently caress THE POOR
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Apr 22, 2016 18:31
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http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2016/04/there-is-a-lot-wrong-with-this-rant-about-san-francisco.html
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Apr 26, 2016 21:24
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Crabtree posted:Shouldn't there be some sort of shame or punishment for knowingly lying to a food bank and writing a story about it? He already works for the Daily Mail, how could you possible shame him?
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Apr 26, 2016 21:27
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Quote-Unquote posted:The article straight up says that the food bank is preventing desperate people from committing crimes such as shoplifting and burglary, that the couple doing this are deliberately going to people that can't afford to buy much themselves so that they can get cheap food (again, not everyone gets to go to the food bank, you have to have a note from a doctor or social worker, and you can only go a few times a year), and that in particular they're helping a pensioner that is struggling to get by. And finally they say that the trust (a charity, funded mainly by the church) that runs these food banks is taking measures to help get junkies proper help. Wanna quote everything you bolded. It's almost as if people who have almost nothing will trade what they have in good faith, heroin addicts included. E: Forgot about nested quotes not going through. Click his name above for full bullshit. goatsestretchgoals fucked around with this message at 10:18 on Apr 27, 2016 |
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Apr 27, 2016 10:14
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i am harry posted:I love the idea that people are abusing food banks. Go read the venezuela thread. All of it. Now.
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May 3, 2016 06:50
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http://www.sfexaminer.com/another-tech-ceo-hot-water-insensitive-comments/quote:Tech CEO Mark Woodward appears to be the latest leader in the industry to draw public ire for his use of social media to express contempt for disadvantaged Bay Area residents.
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May 3, 2016 07:00
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