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I've been told that certain scummy telemarketing job offers work the same way, but this is the first time I've encountered it: Work for our company, doing customer support for MLM scheme advertising ("Solo ads", sorry if I'm simplifying this needlesly complex bullshit) for two-three months. You're going to work 7 days a week, for 80% of what a regular minimum wage job pays. Once you've passed your probation period, you'll get a cut of our overall sales revenue, and earn approximately 3-4000$ a month. Which... wouldn't be so surprising, if they weren't looking specifically for someone well educated with exceptional English skills, and didn't make me go through an incredibly elaborate interview process. Edit - something I always wanted to try: Someone's running a shell game in front of a crowd. You play, loudly announce that the shell is in the middle (or whatever, doesn't actually matter) and flip the other two cups yourself before the conman can. Both cups are empty, so obviously the ball must be in the middle one. Do people try that? What happens if/when they do? Xander77 fucked around with this message at 13:04 on Mar 23, 2016 |
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bitcoin bastard posted:It's almost the shell game from above. All the marks scurry around selling lovely off brand poo poo to friends, family, and gullible people on the street. Real money is selling conference tickets. thrakkorzog posted:You know back in my college days, me and some buddies would walk into frat parties, claim we were a magic act, and then set up a 3 card Monte table. I was the shill, a basic nerdy guy, who won more often than I lost, playing 3 card monte. And occasionally drunken fratboys kicked my rear end out for not being one of them. We still cleared around $600 a weekend. Xander77 fucked around with this message at 13:08 on Mar 23, 2016 |
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I'm translating a contract (despite having no accounting experience) and had to find proper translations for some accounting terms. A bit of googling told me that the presence of terms like "Rolls and extensions" "Operative documentary letter of credit" and "International banking hours" (yes, I'm serious) probably means something scammy is going on, but none of the sources I found provided any details about the actual substance of the scam. So... what is / could be the scam involved? Also... should I alert my client? I'm not actually sure which side drafted the contract though.
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Better yet - it was a contract between a Brazilian and a Jordanian (persistently spelled "Jourdanian" throughout the document) firm, in English, to be translated into Hebrew. Which isn't that odd – as a freelance translator in a multicultural society, you may find yourself But still. It was kinda weird. After I tried asking a few questions, they "decided to take their business elsewhere" so I guess… it was a scam of some sort? Maybe? Edit - I've translated basic legal and financial documents before. Generally speaking, a notary will confirm the accuracy of the translation, and apparently their signature will grant the translation the force of a legal document. Xander77 fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Apr 12, 2016 |
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MLM's are pretty big in Russia as well. I'd say it's an indication of psycho-social pressures of income inequality and a lopsided distribution of wealth, but "capitalism" just captures things much more neatly.
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BeigeJacket posted:I spent an hour looking at MLM wikis and you tubes. Didn't realise they were so prevalent!
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Carnival of Shrews posted:The collapse usually comes when the founders begin mysteriously powering through the pyramids much faster than the average member, or several upper-level members turn out to be family members/friends who formed a ready-assembled top three tiers without paying the buy-in fee (I know of no case that ended in prosecution, in which the founders had failed to pull at least one of these moves). That's obviously 'cheating', and gets reported to the police by a disgruntled bottom-tier recruit who doesn't see any progress for themselves. Because only big and obviously dishonest founders ever get prosecuted, relatively few people, even today, are aware that it's illegal to join or recruit for such a scheme -- not just to be the organiser of one. There was some sort of an economics experiment I remember too vaguely to google accurately: the students got to trade "stocks" among themselves, at an ever lowering cost, with each sale generating a profit. Even though they had a clock ticking down to the exact moment when trading will stop and the "stocks" they bought will become unsellable cost sinks, students kept buying till the last 30 seconds or so. Why? "I thought I'd find some sucker who would buy with 20 seconds to go".
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I ran into an NPR piece about cons in the 19th Century. Here's a nice list: Where's your avatar from, anyways? Looks like "Hark, a Vagrant", but I can't find that particular comic.
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Got at call from the bank - apparently someone transfered 2500 shekels from my account to Armenia. It's kinda weird that the bank is calling me to begin with (I first thought it was about an unusual transaction I made the day before), in Russian, and Caller ID doesn't ID the number as the bank. Ok, how did the money get transferred? Where did the instruction came from, what got hacked? The caller has a really hard time processing the query, though maybe I just suck at communicating. Do I use the application? Do I visit the local branch often? (In retrospect, I shouldn't have answered either question). All right, he's going to "insure" my funds. How much money do I have in my account? I'm not going to answer that question. Cool, local police will contact me. I said I live in Arad, right? Hang up the phone, mark the number on caller ID as "Bank - probably a scammer?" A few minutes later, I get a call marked as "Next town over - Police". Another Russian speaker, a woman. At this point I'm fairly confident I'm getting scammed, so I start loving around - everyone are so conveniently speak Russian today, the police are calling me back ever so quickly, and how can I be of service to the local law enforcement? She's in no mood to be hosed with - "Xander, did you always sound like a total fag or are you just pretending for my benefit?" and hangs up the phone. This one gets marked down as a scammer without a question mark. Notes: 1. I read about this type of scam in several random Russian blogs. Not sure how I'd react if I didn't have that info. 2. People who comment on these blogs don't have a life, and don't believe anything interesting ever happens to anyone else. They're particularly "oh, and everyone stood up and clapped, amirite?" about stories that end with the scammer being annoyed at the target loving with them, cussing them out and hanging up. And yet. 3. Apparently the target audience are Russian pensioners, but they'll happily take on an younger crowd? Or they don't have a way to tell.
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Volmarias posted:To be fair this bit does sound like police so far. Use google translate for further info: https://www.exler.ru/blog/razvod-zvonok-iz-banka.htm https://www.exler.ru/blog/novyy-vid-telefonnogo-moshennichestva-budte-bditelny.htm?sort_nested=-created_at https://www.vokrug.tv/article/show/15801012611/ https://www.exler.ru/blog/ocherednoy-razvod-voprosy.htm?sort=created_at https://www.facebook.com/lala.brynza/posts/3293737834006291
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