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madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

E: ^^^ Yeah, that.

Don Gato posted:

I didnt get telemarketers calling me until I enlisted, then everyone and their mother wanted to sell me health insurance and life insurance for some reason. Not sure what the logic was, they weren't even good plans unless I was planning on some insurance fraud or something.

Lincoln Heritage ring a bell? They seem to like preying on soldiers (I have not been in the military, btw). Mlm scam, they try to sell you on selling insurance. I've had two run-ins with their rear end. One fellow I drank with (former army, served with Lynndie England if you believe the story) got me to meet him and his "colleague" at Barnes and Noble to talk about life insurance. Two minutes trying to sell insurance, ten more trying to recruit me. Dude started shaking about half way through, apologized after, never saw him again. Another idiot tried to run the whole, "wouldn't you like to work for yourself", spiel while I was servicing an account. Went all hand-dog after I asked if he sold insurance for Lincoln, and mentioned that my customer might not like soliciting in their building (a large supermarket). Guy said this was his part time gig outside of the air force (and going swimmingly, of course). I got the insurance fraud vibe, too.

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madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012


Now I know the Hindi word for motherfucker!

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

Don Gato posted:

...please don't report me

How much is it worth to you?

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

Tubgoat posted:

What you're describing is entirely too complicated and, even executed correctly, is highly unlikely to work more than perhaps once, and even THAT'S only if an employee isn't afraid of getting fired.
If you're at a junk store, just use your Barter skill to request a lower price from the employee in charge of pricing.
But be sure to read the room. If the store is busy or the specific employee doesn't seem amenable, don't try it.

Nah, make use of high survival skill and just eat out of the trash. -50% rads!

Yes, people will absolutely do that.

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

Tubgoat posted:

Vote Sanders and this can all go away.

I was specifically thinking automotive insurance, though.

If universal healthcare insurance becomes a reality, car insurance should become significantly cheaper. $1600 a year for basic liability here in the US, my father in Europe has never payed more than $200 a year for full coverage.

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

Haifisch posted:

I've also seen them use area codes that are nowhere near me. I've never lived in Florida, and nobody I know has either, but I've gotten robocalls with Florida area codes.

It's even better when you live in Florida. Got one from my own number the other day, wtf.

Somehow going to Polk county (so, Lakeland) invites a bunch of scam calls as well. I'm 34 and in decent health, the Social Security Administration doesn't give a poo poo about me, why would I need to verify my SS# and name? My fifteen year old vehicle is well past any extended warranty period (those ones go straight to voice-mail). I've also gotten two voice mails in what I've figured out is Hmong Daw, despite the username I'm whitebread as gently caress. This is all during the past three days of driving two counties over to work in Polk county. The person I've been working with out there gets upwards of twenty scam calls a day. Preying on the elderly and people with limited English skills (or both), bra-loving-vo.

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

So I've been looking to move. Check out this improbably cheap A-Frame house. I know where this is, driven past it many times. Look at the pictures. Look at the name of the renting agency. See the "avoid scams" bit towards the top of the page.

Here's another listing for a rental right next door. Same price, too.

Now, both these properties and many more are listed on multiple websites with the same contact information. There's some really obvious ones when you sift through their own website. Travel trailers in mobile home parks kinda thing.

Let's give them a call, shall we? No answer, immediate call back. I tell him what I'm interested in and he says he'll send information via text to start an application process. I'll say no names:



Starts out with a deal!

I realize the Better Business Bureau is very suspect, but here is their BBB complaints page for the last iteration of the renting agency which bleeds into their current business.

Feel free to scroll through that. Straight slum lords. Pocketing money for applications where they never bother to run a credit check, broken houses that never get fixed, extortion through deposits, hostile responses, threats, and offering refunds as hush money.

Reading through it I think these are vulnerable people complaining the only way they can think of. God knows what goes on with people that can't or won't complain. Even the initial terms are poo poo. No pet deposit, no restriction on size or breed of dog sounds good until you realize the company doesn't care and they'll just try to charge you for damages when you get kicked out or abandon the lease (and you will).

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madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

FMguru posted:

That's a classic Clip Joint: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clip_joint

e: There's a strip club variant, where an interested mark is invited to spend time in a private room with one of the strippers. He goes to meet the stripper, she orders drinks (usually champagne, which is why the scam is known as the "champagne room") at some ridiculous markup ($50 or $100 a glass), leads the mark on, orders more drinks, and when the mark reaches out to touch the stripper, suddenly giant bouncers appear and escort the mark out (because the club rule is "no touching the dancers").

The Idiots thread in GiP was rife with these kind of scams a bunch of pages back.

"Juicy girls", in SE Asia, where the beer is cheap, but the girl you're talking to orders $20 orange juices, etc. You talk until the juice stops flowing, then they excuse themselves until you leave. That seems a far gentler scam, where the mark is left with a huge bill, and blue balls, but not much to say about it.

What can a soldier really say, "But I thought..."
You thought poo poo, dumbass, and got caught out. Maybe a ban on the bar for service members (lol) but the bar didn't actually do anything illegal, so the cops ain't gonna care.

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madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

Fruits of the sea posted:

My experience of it was in Prague on a college school trip. The tour guide parked us at a restaurant and was pretty explicit about not touching the stuff because we were a flock of 19-year-old dumbasses. Sure enough, the menu had a couple appetizers priced equally to the entrees.

But yeah, a little bread or olives on the table isn’t uncommon in Spain or Portugal from what I’ve seen. Central Prague was a pretty predatory place- it’s probably not an issue for areas that aren’t heavily touristed.

Since you mentioned Prague, the Honest Guide channel on Youtube is a pair of Czechs who present a mix of neat travel videos and tourist scam exposés. Worth a watch, even if you don't plan to visit Czechia (you horrible person, you).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcig6lxjm00

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