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You can always just start a cancer charity, spin it off into four branches, fill it with family members, raise more than $180 million over four years and then spend 97% of the money on salaries and personal expenses: http://edition.cnn.com/2015/05/19/us/scam-charity-investigation/ In what the FTC is calling an "historic decision", these people will pay the huge penalty of having their businesses shut down and they'll have to do a lot of paperwork and the government could maybe, in the end, collect about a million in fine money out of them. There are small-time sympathy-scammers as well, who create fake online identities and exploit the trust and generosity of other people living with or supporting people with various diseases: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/18/cancer-cons-phoney-accidents-fake-deaths-internet-hoax-buster-taryn-wright
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# ¿ Mar 20, 2016 11:34 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 17:57 |
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You win the money, everyone stands up and claps and as you walk back to your car a couple of dude's homies jump you and teach you a lesson about messing with crooks.
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# ¿ Mar 22, 2016 23:42 |
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BiggerBoat posted:Off the subject, but I love caper/con men/double cross movies (House of Games, Matchstick Men, Oceans Eleven, Hard Eight, The Sting, etc.). Can anyone recommend some good con man/scam movies? Big Deal at Dodge City. It's been a long time and it's a slow burner (and I may have had a fever), but it fits the bill.
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2016 00:10 |
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photomikey posted:It's tax free, so in the US, they're already making 30% more than someone with a job. Seriously, what would one make slogging away at minimum wage? $9/hr? Over an 8 hour day, $72 and then uncle sam takes $15 or $20, you walk with $55 or so? Just imagine if we all gave a dollar a day to our local city or state government so that people who were genuinely destitute could just have a place to sleep and a permanent address. Then at stoplights we could say, "I pay my tax, just go to the local shelter and they'll take care of you" and not have to worry about anything cos people who need help would be all right.
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# ¿ Apr 7, 2016 23:13 |
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You can afford an extra dollar a day for everybody who doesn't have a place to sleep in your town.
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# ¿ Apr 7, 2016 23:57 |
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No! The only people who use libraries or roads or beds are cheats and thieves! I read a newspaper article once!
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2016 00:18 |
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In Dublin, the rental market was really loving crazy in 2003-2004. To get a place, you typically had to show up with first & last in cash and be ready to hand it over and sign the lease on the spot to get keys. None of this, "I'll think about it and call you first thing in the morning" (I found out the hard way about this). But obviously this just leaves people open to all kinds of rip-off artists, like the guy who rented his apartment to 9 different couples who all showed up with working keys and rental agreements on the first of the month. He had gotten about €4000 from each of them.
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# ¿ Apr 9, 2016 20:27 |
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There should be fake credit card numbers you can give to scammers that secretly notify the police when they're used.
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# ¿ Apr 13, 2016 20:09 |
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BeigeJacket posted:These MLM things seem uniquely American. I've never seen them in the UK, and always have been left confused by Amway jokes in movies and TV. Here's a 1-2-3 part article that shows just how loving crazy the USA is for MLMs. It's depressing as poo poo (will probably just amuse you though as a non-American).
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# ¿ Apr 13, 2016 23:36 |
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I have friends who worked for Google ad support and they tell me that every time they changed their algorithm hundreds of Herbalife zombies would call up screaming about how they were ruining their life and going to cost them their house and poo poo like that. Fortunately there was lots of upward mobility at that time or it would have been unbearably grim.
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# ¿ Apr 15, 2016 00:29 |
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Lutha Mahtin posted:was there an invoice attached? don't leave us hanging!! I almost got a virus from opening an "invoice." Somebody finally got lucky matching vendors and institutional email addresses: everyone at my school (teachers and staff) started getting mails about unpaid bills to the local book store. Our admin is really loving bad at paying bills and I've been confronted with 9mo bills when I've gone to the shop in the past. I swore and clicked it without thinking but fortunately Gmail saved me.
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2016 06:44 |
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My sister is totally into one of the pharma/health MLMs and is constantly instagramming and facebooking and generally working it. I still don't believe she makes any money, I think she just loves the attention and that she thinks people think she is making money. She got our other sister involved and the new one posted on FB last week how easy it was and she didn't even have to do that much work, leading to a smackdown from sister #1 telling everyone that it was only because she gave sis #2 her best customer: our mom.
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2016 23:01 |
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PT6A posted:I've been getting a lot of "FedEx" emails saying that my parcel could not be delivered and would I please open this ZIP that has all the shipping details? Well, in the first case, people who ship a lot of stuff with FedEx. If you spam 15 million people, some of them will fit the profile and then some of those people will have had a problem recently and open the file. Like I said earlier, it almost happened to me when spammers guessed a company I had used and my school's admin had a history of not paying invoices even after I'd submitted them two or three times. I went to open the file in a "what the gently caress is it this time" way because the scenario was just so familiar and they had actually spoofed the email address properly.
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2016 06:49 |
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Oh, boy, what a totally legit email! Is she still using her Yahoo account? Or is she using the University of Missouri again?
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# ¿ Aug 13, 2017 05:36 |
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BiggerBoat posted:No one's spoken about Amway and MLM in a while but, skimming the thread, I've noticed some people actually say that they "know a friend who made $xx,xxx. He showed me a check". to which I say, no. No he or she did not. You should check out USANA The Cellular Nutrition Company. My sister's into them big time and it makes me so mad when she shills for their woo woo crap (she's a pharmacist, fer chrissake). I've heard they make OK products, vitamins, supplements, skin creams, hair products, etc., but they mark them way up and then do this direct sales shite rather than just selling their stuff in stores. It combines bullshit medical fantasy cell rejuvenation bullshit with buying stock (at a discount!!!) to badger your friends and family with. They've got the aspirational health + wealth market on absolute lock and it is sickening. You see, "MOST ASSOCIATES JOIN SIMPLY TO IMPROVE THEIR HEALTH AND PURCHASE PRODUCTS AT A DISCOUNT (pdf)," so really, not everyone wants to make a lot of money, no no no... you can do that though if you work really hard and are a good person and really believe in yourself (I guess). So how much can you make? From the pdf linked above: So you order your stock at a "discount", then you can charge your friends and family whatever you want, and if you really want to lock in the "savings", you'll get your stock on auto-order so you have a massive inventory to unload on everyone you ever talk to. Listen to these amazing success stories! (Also check out the elegant site structure: https://www.usana.com/dotCom/opportunity/stories lol quote:Tracy Wenkman Look her up, BB! I'm sure she'd love to help you experience success in both your business and your life!!! quote:Anna and Yvan Lozano These people are experiencing so much success it just can't be quantified in any way. But they definitely have a lot of it! It's just so amazingly wonderful and all you have to do is pay the $29.99 to become an associate so that you yes you can take advantage of these truly amazing products that just can't be sold in stores for some reason and if you want to really profit, you'll order a bunch of them and also buy the wonderful sales and marketing materials they generously offer at very reasonable prices or if you want to really succeed why not attend one of the $400 Usana events where you get pepped up (and also buy more books and crap) and really get empowered to start making your dreams come true! ed: just did the maths on the earnings table. Out of 42,549 people, there are 35 making over 200k, 51 making 100-200k, 89 making 50-100k, and 234 making 20-50k. BUT MOST PEOPLE JOIN JUST TO BE HEALTHY so those numbers are totally OK and not indicative of a loving brutal scam. greazeball fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Aug 16, 2017 |
# ¿ Aug 16, 2017 21:47 |
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MANime in the sheets posted:This is why my mom stopped donating to MADD. As far as she can tell, they spend nearly everything they get from donations on soliciting more of them. According to Charity Navigator, they spend about 25% on fundraising and 10% on admin so only 65% goes to the program which is pretty poor IMO for an org with revenue of $35 million/year. Thanatosian posted:I hate the "charities" that call, ask for a random common name, and then when told they have the wrong number, say "oh, well maybe you can help me..". They inevitably have hella generic names, usually involving veterans or firefighters. Don't forget children and the police!
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# ¿ Sep 2, 2017 13:37 |
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Fil5000 posted:Is that top one spending nearly 97% of its revenue on raising revenue? Only 90! Program expenses are what they're raising the funds for and what you want >80% of the expenses to be. Those guys spend 91 cents to raise one dollar and then spend less than 6 cents of that dollar on sherrifs or policemen
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# ¿ Sep 2, 2017 14:16 |
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Rusty Shackelford posted:Program expenses are how much they spend to operate, which is separate from how much they spend to raise funds. That top "charity" only has about 3% left over after their total expenses. No, there's a separate category for administration. The table is only comparing fundraising to program expenses, which they define as the percent of the charity's total expenses spent on the programs and services it delivers. These guys actually have a great score for admin expenses! If you click the image in my first post, you can click through the links there for all the stats on each one.
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# ¿ Sep 2, 2017 21:07 |
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Lutha Mahtin posted:ah yes, Charity Navigator. the organization that is a thinly-veiled attempt to push a single, narrow, ideological standard as the only way to discuss nonprofits It's far from perfect, but is has collected and compared financial records for hundreds if not thousands of charities so they can be compared in a consistent manner. I don't think their accountability and transparency metrics are the best but just for getting basic info I use it a lot. What other sites should I be checking when I want to look into a charity (genuine question, I'm trying to donate more and I do check places out)?
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# ¿ Sep 2, 2017 23:16 |
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I don't, personally. But I see that I presented it that way. Thanks for the article. To your point, there are no immutable laws of how to run a charity so evaluation will always be done on subjective criteria no matter who does it. They do seem to be pretty clear about what their criteria are though so if you get to know them you learn how to look through their reports to find what you're looking for. And in cases like the image I posted in the thread, they make it obvious just how lovely some charities are being.
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# ¿ Sep 3, 2017 02:27 |
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stringball posted:The Wikipedia page on it left me very confused before I asked this, thank you! Because there are no ads on BBC TV or Radio, only some promotion of BBC content between shows. edit since this was already answered: Not only does this mean the programmes are longer, and that they will play full films without breaks, it also affects programme development. The point of a show on a US TV network is to bring viewers in to watch ads, so you want the show to run for as long as possible. The point of a show on the BBC (there are commercial networks that compete with them, they're not all license fee supported) is to provide value to the license fee payers, so the emphasis is (theoretically) on good storytelling with pre-determined conclusions, since you're usually only signed for a few episodes of a drama series. I'll also add that in Switzerland our license fee is over $400/year and we still have commercials and very little original content. greazeball fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Sep 5, 2017 |
# ¿ Sep 5, 2017 17:22 |
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I guess there's a new chatbot that you can use to waste email scammers' time? I could swear there already was one of these. With this one, you just forward any email you think is a scam to me@rescam.org and it'll set up a proxy address and start sending interested, gullible, incompetent messages. I think you can choose to get updates from the email thread, but the FAQ was a bit hazy on that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPajqAJWiNA https://www.rescam.org/
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2017 10:33 |
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I mean, obviously you have to just take them at their word but this is the group that runs the chatbot: quote:After noticing the growing influence of technology in their respective areas, the New Zealand Police, Ministry of Education and several not for profits teamed up with telecommunication organisations and IT industry partners to create an independent body focussed on online safety.
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2017 20:03 |
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So long as people are motivated by feeling like they got a better deal than someone else, we're all going to get the worst deal that sellers can give us: quote:If the marketplace was a war between buyers and sellers, the 19th-century French sociologist Gabriel Tarde wrote, then price was a truce. And the practice of setting a fixed price for a good or a service—which took hold in the 1860s—meant, in effect, a cessation of the perpetual state of hostility known as haggling. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/05/how-online-shopping-makes-suckers-of-us-all/521448/
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# ¿ Feb 9, 2018 14:08 |
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Initio posted:How does the tide thing even work? Suds for Drugs Tide detergent: Works on tough stains. Can now also be traded for crack. A case study in American ingenuity, legal and otherwise. http://nymag.com/news/features/tide-detergent-drugs-2013-1/
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2018 12:54 |
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Piell posted:Pretty much every call center is a scam with the important distinction that not all of them are scamming the people they're calling, many of them are scamming the businesses they are making the calls for
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# ¿ Aug 27, 2018 12:02 |
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ToxicSlurpee posted:That should depend on the cancer, I think. Some of them have very high cure rates if you catch them early enough. I used to work with a dude who was pushing 100 that had cancer three times. Pretty good health otherwise. Interestingly he only worked because he wanted to rather than from that he couldn't afford not to. What kind of job can still be competently done by a 100-year-old? Academia? I've got lots of teaching colleagues who are noticeably losing a step in their 70s.
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2018 09:03 |
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Mustached Demon posted:So is a credit scanner. yeah but contactless...
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2018 12:32 |
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Consent goes in the blockchain
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# ¿ Nov 4, 2018 08:44 |
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I'm visiting the states and bought a SIM for roaming and holy gently caress the loving robocalls. No wonder people are constantly shooting the place up, I'm about to go on a killing spree because I can't use my goddamn phone.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2019 19:52 |
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It really speaks volumes about the expected level of consumer rights in the US that an absolute flood of spam calls ranging from minor irritations to harrassment to targeted scams which has made regular use of the telephone all but impossible is just hand-waved away with "you just have to ignore it" and "you can pay money to alleviate the problem slightly". I'm still pissed off at how many bullshit calls and voicemails I got while I was in the states for 2 weeks, even with the Hiya subscription (carrier level blocking wasn't available with the roaming SIM I bought and other blocking apps wouldn't install based on my phone's region). If I had to actually live with that, I would seriously consider learning how to program robo-dialers to harass the poo poo out of every single Congressional and FCC office until they put a stop to it.
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2019 10:45 |
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My PIN is 4826 posted:Wait, am I reading your post correctly? Are you saying that even if I'm on a roaming plan from my own country, I will get robocalls once I set foot in the US? No I had to buy a temporary SIM in the states because my carrier doesn't have a roaming plan for the US. When I put in the new card, I had already received a text message by the time my phone had started up and two calls in the first hour. I can only assume the temporary cards use recycled numbers so the calls and texts were previously just going into the ether.
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2019 07:45 |
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Step 1 get a fuckin PO Box dude
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2019 00:17 |
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peanut posted:Should I even consider making a LinkdIn profile to make my translation business more visible, or is it all MLM and manager-level poaching? It's never going to be the primary source of a job but it will serve as a kind of social-meida-lite page where people can look you up. There's probably a more niche site depending on your language(s) or a marketplace for translations where you would have better results per view.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2019 09:37 |
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BiggerBoat posted:For casinos, basically ensuring the odds always favor the house at 51-49%. After that, it's all about keeping people playing for as along as possible in order to ramp up the proceeds from those odds. These are the odds at optimal play, too. Keeping people drunk, sleep-deprived and disoriented improves that a bit I suspect. Then they make sure that big wins get noticed: lights, bells, special treatment... make sure everyone sees the big winner! There's the free perks you get for playing more too, anything to keep you at the table longer: I'll get a room upgrade if I just make it through this bad patch, OK well maybe a free buffet, etc. The average gambling budget for a trip to Vegas in 2016 was $578. I had $100 a day for my fun money and once it worked out great and once I went to bed early 3 nights in a row.
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# ¿ Sep 4, 2019 23:03 |
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I like the British betting site advert that turned the Gambling Addiction Disclaimer into their slogan: We Gamble Responsibly, at Bet365. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz9RfAlWJgM
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2019 08:26 |
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BiggerBoat posted:I can't shake the feeling that almost the entirety of capitalism, and especially banking, is a scam. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMehSfTmnbY
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# ¿ Nov 2, 2019 13:44 |
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Eric the Mauve posted:e2: It's also funny that Satan was allowed to kill the guy's wife, but didn't, apparently because he thought his life would be worse with her alive LOL that hadn't occured to me before but it's spot on
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2020 14:23 |
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Some scammers are going pro it looks likequote:An army of more more than 200 fake “traders” based in Ukraine have been persuading victims all over the world to part with their savings, according to a whistleblower from the operation who describes it as a huge investment scam. more here: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/revealed-fake-traders-allegedly-prey-on-victims-in-global-investment-scam
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2020 20:58 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 17:57 |
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That's the way most of these hosed up incentive schemes are designed, to encourage the workers to gently caress each other over so the companies don't have to get their hands dirty.
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# ¿ Oct 30, 2020 12:51 |