do you close your break tag?

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THE BIG DOG DADDY: Oct 16, 2013; Rasheed was, with Aliases, the top 7 PvPers in Bone Krew.

No one talks about this.

# ? Feb 23, 2016 18:35

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# ? May 15, 2024 23:20

El Gar: Apr 12, 2007; Hey Trophy...

just because html accepts it does not absolve you of your responsibility as a professional html writer. always close your break tag

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# ? Feb 23, 2016 18:59

qntm: Jun 17, 2009

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# ? Feb 24, 2016 00:39

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craisins posted:

was ie really that prominent in 2009? i didn't know anyone still using it back then

China is very proud of their IE6 lifestyle.

# ? Feb 24, 2016 01:36

jony ive aces: Jun 14, 2012; designer of the lomarf car; Buglord

i started writing html when i was a kid in like 1995 and some document at the time said to use tags at the end of a paragraph like a double with no anywhere

i occasionally help my dad with a site he has and he still does it that way and it's annoying but browsers accept it so w/e

# ? Feb 24, 2016 01:51

craisins: May 17, 2004; A DRIIIIIIIIIIIIVE!

jony ive aces posted:

i started writing html when i was a kid in like 1995 and some document at the time said to use tags at the end of a paragraph like a double with no anywhere

i occasionally help my dad with a site he has and he still does it that way and it's annoying but browsers accept it so w/e

judging from a lot of code ive seen, youve worked everywhere I've worked

# ? Feb 24, 2016 01:56

pram: Jun 10, 2001

jony ive aces posted:

i started writing html when i was a kid in like 1995 and some document at the time said to use tags at the end of a paragraph like a double with no anywhere

i occasionally help my dad with a site he has and he still does it that way and it's annoying but browsers accept it so w/e

wtf

# ? Feb 24, 2016 02:00

Roosevelt: Jul 18, 2009; I'm looking for the man who shot my paw.

someone posted a link a long time ago to a website FAQ page, where each line of text was inside a p tag with the style font-size: larger. but they never put a /p anywhere, so each line was a child of all the preceding tags, so by around the 30th line or so the text size was like 500px. that was cool

# ? Feb 24, 2016 03:37

ChiralCondensate: Nov 13, 2007; what is that man doing to his colour palette?; Grimey Drawer

yeah let me write html like a fuckin idiot

# ? Feb 24, 2016 03:41

Smythe: Oct 12, 2003

r u not sposed to do the wtf haha

# ? Feb 24, 2016 03:58

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

Roosevelt posted:

someone posted a link a long time ago to a website FAQ page, where each line of text was inside a p tag with the style font-size: larger. but they never put a /p anywhere, so each line was a child of all the preceding tags, so by around the 30th line or so the text size was like 500px. that was cool

Yeah it was a sewing machine site

# ? Feb 24, 2016 04:36

Breakfast All Day: Oct 21, 2004

dont xslt shame

# ? Feb 24, 2016 07:09

N.Z.'s Champion: Jun 8, 2003; Yam Slacker

once I saw code that had attributes in the closing tag like blah

which never worked in any browser at all so why would they do it? maybe it was a paste error or something idk

# ? Feb 24, 2016 07:45

jony ive aces: Jun 14, 2012; designer of the lomarf car; Buglord

Smythe posted:

r u not sposed to do the wtf haha

you are supposed to do tags but some thing i read in the mid 90s said not to and my dad still doesn't to this day

tbf in the mid 90s you could get away with it since your pages were p much

HTML code:

<html>
<head><title>Welcome to my web site!</title></head>
<body>
<h1>Welcome to my web site!</h1>
<hr>
<center><h2><img src="UNDERC~1.gif"> This page is <u>UNDER CONSTRUCTION</u> <img src="UNDERC~1.gif"></h2></center>
<hr>
Paragraph 1
<p>
Paragraph 2
<p>
Paragraph 3
<hr>
You are visitor number <img src="/cgi-bin/counter.pl"> to this page!
</body>
</html>

while now everything's several dozen layers of divs and clearfixes and poo poo

# ? Feb 24, 2016 12:56

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

I still do my website in bespoke html

# ? Feb 24, 2016 14:29

Symbolic Butt: Mar 22, 2009; (_!_); Buglord

jony ive aces posted:

you are supposed to do tags but some thing i read in the mid 90s said not to and my dad still doesn't to this day

why is your dad writing html in 2016, jesus man he deserves better

# ? Feb 24, 2016 15:27

Symbolic Butt: Mar 22, 2009; (_!_); Buglord

time to show him LaTeX

# ? Feb 24, 2016 15:28

LP0 ON FIRE: Jan 25, 2006; _{beep boop}

N.Z.'s Champion posted:

once I saw code that had attributes in the closing tag like blah

which never worked in any browser at all so why would they do it? maybe it was a paste error or something idk

it's very explicitly stated beta xhtml6 requirement poo poo

# ? Feb 24, 2016 18:14

LP0 ON FIRE: Jan 25, 2006; _{beep boop}

Symbolic Butt posted:

time to show him LaTeX

# ? Feb 24, 2016 18:16

LP0 ON FIRE: Jan 25, 2006; _{beep boop}

Roosevelt posted:

im the IE line that's dropping like any microsoft product that's not windows

# ? Feb 24, 2016 18:18

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

LP0 ON FIRE posted:

u mean office

# ? Feb 24, 2016 18:59

Cocoa Crispies: Jul 20, 2001; Vehicular Manslaughter!; Pillbug

i close my break tags when i write html but i usually just use haml which may or may not do it for me idgaf

# ? Feb 24, 2016 21:08

My Linux Rig: Mar 27, 2010; Can't post for 6 years!

LP0 ON FIRE posted:

it's very explicitly stated beta xhtml6 requirement poo poo

lol are you serious?

# ? Feb 24, 2016 21:30

Smythe: Oct 12, 2003

jony ive aces posted:

you are supposed to do tags but some thing i read in the mid 90s said not to and my dad still doesn't to this day

tbf in the mid 90s you could get away with it since your pages were p much
HTML code:
<html>
<head><title>Welcome to my web site!</title></head>
<body>
<h1>Welcome to my web site!</h1>
<hr>
<center><h2><img src="UNDERC~1.gif"> This page is UNDER CONSTRUCTION <img src="UNDERC~1.gif"></h2></center>
<hr>
Paragraph 1

Paragraph 2

Paragraph 3
<hr>
You are visitor number <img src="/cgi-bin/counter.pl"> to this page!
</body>
</html>
while now everything's several dozen layers of divs and clearfixes and poo poo

i do it like the bottom way hehe. i didnt know it was bad, or not good. i also didnt klnow p were tags i thot they just made like a big space. ^^

# ? Feb 25, 2016 02:46

pram: Jun 10, 2001

lol

# ? Feb 25, 2016 03:20

Smythe: Oct 12, 2003

Man who moderates YOSPOS: how do i use the ?

# ? Feb 25, 2016 03:21

pram: Jun 10, 2001

i was curious about the actual canonical list of void elements

quote:

Void elements
area, base, br, col, embed, hr, img, input, keygen, link, menuitem, meta, param, source, track, wbr

# ? Feb 25, 2016 03:23

N.Z.'s Champion: Jun 8, 2003; Yam Slacker

My Linux Rig posted:

lol are you serious?

no they arent there's no attributes in closing tags

# ? Feb 25, 2016 03:25

Roosevelt: Jul 18, 2009; I'm looking for the man who shot my paw.

pram posted:

i was curious about the actual canonical list of void elements

i had to look up wbr cause wtf is that

quote:

The (Word Break Opportunity) tag specifies where in a text it would be ok to add a line-break.

Tip: When a word is too long, or you are afraid that the browser will break your lines at the wrong place, you can use the element to add word break opportunities.

introduced in HTML5. that's some attention to detail.

w3schools posted:

Try to shrink the browser window, to view how the very long word in the paragraph below will break:

This is a veryveryveryveryveryveryveryveryveryveryveryveryveryveryveryveryveryverylongwordthatwillbreakatspecificplaceswhenthebrowserwindowisresized.

ah yes finally the future is here. we've been waiting so long

# ? Feb 25, 2016 05:27

triple sulk: Sep 17, 2014

quote this if u used phoenix/firebird or whichever it was called that came first, i forget

# ? Feb 25, 2016 05:42

suffix: Jul 27, 2013; Wheeee!

jony ive aces posted:

i started writing html when i was a kid in like 1995 and some document at the time said to use tags at the end of a paragraph like a double with no anywhere

i occasionally help my dad with a site he has and he still does it that way and it's annoying but browsers accept it so w/e

there's a bunch of weird rules for omitting closing tags in specific situations

quote:

A p element's end tag may be omitted if the p element is immediately followed by an address, article, aside, blockquote, div, dl, fieldset, footer, form, h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6, header, hgroup, hr, main, nav, ol, p, pre, section, table, or ul, element, or if there is no more content in the parent element and the parent element is not an a element.

i was trying to generate html from xml once and it came out all wrong because it hosed up the tags by either merging stuff like empty paragraphs into or splitting self-closing tags into

# ? Feb 25, 2016 06:14

jesus WEP: Oct 17, 2004

i dont close break tags because i don't use them

gently caress break tags

# ? Feb 25, 2016 14:15

jony ive aces: Jun 14, 2012; designer of the lomarf car; Buglord

it hurts when i

# ? Feb 25, 2016 17:01

jony ive aces: Jun 14, 2012; designer of the lomarf car; Buglord

back then i also didn't to close my list items with a </li> and now i do and it's like sure whatever, i'll do it the proper way then

but if you think about it what the gently caress is going to follow after a </li> except another <li> or the closing </ul> or </ol>. so </li> tags are pretty redundant. i guess that's why there's stuff like

suffix posted:

there's a bunch of weird rules for omitting closing tags in specific situations

# ? Feb 25, 2016 17:08

Sweevo: Nov 8, 2007; i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

browsers should have refused to display bad html from the beginning, then we wouldn't have this mess where you have to replicate bugs from 15 year old versions of IE

# ? Feb 25, 2016 17:32

Roosevelt: Jul 18, 2009; I'm looking for the man who shot my paw.

Sweevo posted:

browsers should have refused to display bad html from the beginning, then we wouldn't have this mess where you have to replicate bugs from 15 year old versions of IE

if they're not on ie10 or newer, gently caress em

# ? Feb 25, 2016 17:36

jony ive aces: Jun 14, 2012; designer of the lomarf car; Buglord

Sweevo posted:

browsers should have refused to display bad html from the beginning

isn't that p much the goal of xhtml tho

# ? Feb 25, 2016 17:38

pram: Jun 10, 2001

Sweevo posted:

browsers should have refused to display bad html from the beginning, then we wouldn't have this mess where you have to replicate bugs from 15 year old versions of IE

but they didn't because Microsoft bad

# ? Feb 25, 2016 18:54

pram: Jun 10, 2001

if html is bad it is solely the fault of Microsoft holding it back for a literal decade with the flaming hunk of poo poo know as internet explorer and now edge

# ? Feb 25, 2016 18:54

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Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

nope. IE was dragging browsers into the future and its nutscrapes fault everything is so bad.

# ? Feb 25, 2016 18:56

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