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Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


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I noticed we turn the current events, drunk, dad and idiots threads toward history an awful lot, so I figured we should have a thread just for talking about bad rear end historical poo poo. Considering the three periods GiP seems to love the most are Roman, WW2 and Warhammer, I'll start us off with a big ol dick suck for my man Marcus Agrippa.



See this Samwise lookin bitch here? It's an actor playing this dude



Marcus Agrippa is known as the grandfather of the Roman Empire because even though he started out as some low class plebeian, he was smart, diligent and likable to the point where Cesar himself decided that his nephew Octavian needed him as a best friend because anyone with actual political ties would probably turn on him. And he was right because ol Agrippa stuck to Octavian like dependas on an E4's BAH. No matter who turned on the gens Julia, Agrippa stayed true to them no matter how poo poo the odds looked. Unlike on the excellent HBO/BBC series Rome though, he never banged Octavian's sister.

He fought battles for Octavian/Augustus on every single front and never once was routed, be it on land or sea. And then when he was too beat up to keep rowing his rear end around as the Empire's most feared Enforcer, he became the chief city manager for the city-state of Rome and is said by Augustus himself to "Have found a city of brick and left it a city of marble" and he did this by repaving roads, rebuilding homes, planting new gardens, completely rebuilding Rome's aqueducts and ensuring the surrounding farms were given access to adequate water and soil to feed the city by themselves if need be.

Also dude was such a champ for Augustus that he married his prettiest daughter off to him so he could be sure the Empire would be left with good breeding stock for future emperors. This worked out for a bit but then a few generations in a lot of inbreeding happened, but poo poo ain't Agrippa's fault, he was already hella dead.

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ManMythLegend posted:

Is this thread only for military history? Because if not, I just wanted to say that I've been completely nerding out over "The History of English" podcast.


All history is welcome here


Zeris posted:

This hasn't happened yet, but in about 40,000 years from now...

Even this

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Zeris posted:

How about Star Wars Legends material, or only new Disney Canon?

I mean, are Star Wars human related to us? I know 40K humans and Dune humans are, but Star Wars isn't defined well enough for us to claim them, imo

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Godholio posted:

I hope Frank Herbert haunts his son and everyone involved in a 40k tie-in.

Where can I find this?

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Oct 30, 2011


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Killing babies sounded like fun and I'm sad I was a POG and never got to do it

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Pax Mongolica really never set in for the slavs, they pretty much went right from fighting the Mongols to pissing in each other's mouths.. Again.

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Pesticide20 posted:

The Hardcore History series Ghosts of the Ostfront is a fantastic look at why American involvement in the European theater of WWII is fairly laughable compared to the Russians. The sheer scale of it is a major component due to the millions upon millions involved.

Imagine how much shittier the Eastern Front would have been without Weapons, ammo, clothing or food.

Fact is lend-lease won the war, Russia just kept throwing people in to the grinder to keep Germany doing the same

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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

god bless bj blaskcowitz for winning wwii

Also Indiana Jones and Captain America

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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

I wont deny their impact on the war effort. Indiana stopped them from getting IMMORTALITY, and Captain America kept Baron Zemo busy on the western front. However, I didn't see them helping out when Hitler turned into a robot sooo

I mean, Hitler only built the robot because Captain America punched him in the face so hard he needed a suit of armor to feel safe. So if anything he just made ol Beej's job that much harder

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MassivelyBuckNegro posted:

because lend lease actually mattered and the french air force largely did not.

Also less than a quarter of the delivery got made before Vichy

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DownByTheWooter posted:

so, they came up with the VA before we did?

Not every captured Nazi scientist went on to work at NASA

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The Most Whimsical WW1 Naval Battle

The RMS Carmania was a British Cruise-liner that had recently been converted in to an armed merchant/troop carrier/convoy escort. She had been operating out of Brazil and was looking for German warships and coal carriers in some islands 500 mile East of Brazil.

The SMS Cap Trafalgar was a German Steamliner to make runs between South America and Germany, at the outbreak of war they had upgraded her with a few 4+ inch guns and a pair of pom-pom autocannons. She had been protecting colliers, ships made to carry large tonnages of coals to resupply other warships and merchant vessels.

The SMS Cap Trafalgar had been painted to look like a British Merchant Vessel to use in attempting to raid British vessels int he region by surprising them at close range. While shored up after recently having received its new skin and escorting some coal ships to sea, she now rested on the island of Trindade. But that morning in September 1914, a British Merchant Raider saw the smoke from the German vessels and approached.

To find a German vessel painted and arranged to look exactly like it.

Ever play Team Fortress 2? Sometimes when your running around you see yourself, it has your name, your clothes, your weapons, but it isn't you. it's an enemy spy trying to sneak in and gently caress up your poo poo. So you just run up to them and burn them to a cinder while laughing manically.

The Carmina's Captain is the forefather of this manner of Schadenfreude . he closed in, but kept wide enough to bait the German captain to pull out and engage away from the island. The Carmania fired first,... And missed.

The (Ze) Germans were more accurate, hitting the Carmania and causing fires on the upper decks, the Brits then fired back and smashed the (Ze Germans' bridge. Both ships were sending reports to their own forces with locations and updates, a few near point blank passes (under 150 ft by some accounts) began to happen. The crews were now taking pot shots with infantry weapons and insulting one another in ways you'd expect from a Pirates of the Caribbean movie and not a World War 1 naval engagement. The German ship began to pull away from the British hoping to deliver a final death blow to the burning Carmania, instead the Carmania managed to score a lucky hit at the waterline which quickly drowned the German adversary . The SMS Cap Trafalgar was lost with a few dozen sailors and her Captain, the rest were rescued by the Royal Navy and help in a Brazilian POW camp for the remainder of the war. Another German warship had arrived to help the Trafalgar, but fled thinking the British were just using the damaged Carmania as a ploy to sink them and fled.

The Carmania would be repaired soon and used as a troop carrier for ANZAC forces in the ill-fated campaign in Gallipoli, but herself would survive the war and eventually go back to being a cruise ship

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