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Thatim posted:Basicly for most people here poland is the east-mostern civilized country, just barely. Behind that its only Mad Max in a snow setting. Easternmost, and yeah describing Russia & "friends" as Snowy Mad Max seems accurate, everyone has seen the dashcam videos.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNTjM3_0N80 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr1S5BXcWU8 We need global democracy and human rights. The alternative is an amoral nothing.
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Cat Mattress posted:Easternmost, and yeah describing Russia & "friends" as Snowy Mad Max seems accurate, everyone has seen the dashcam videos. go GIS russian bus stations it's literally fallout: new moscow oblast
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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McDowell posted:an amoral nothing 
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Holy poo poo, if Tony Blair is Option B I'll vote for Option A even if it's MIGF.
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Feb 27, 2016 19:11
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They're the same person.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lf-mAeXH_w Want to pet this dog.
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A Pale Horse posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lf-mAeXH_w Why can't Poles be as smart as dogs?
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So today Russia's Embassy to Sweden thought it would be a brilliant idea to make a Facebook post criticising a Swedish journalist based in Russia for reporting on the latest Bellingcat MH17 report, and made thinly veiled threats regarding their legal status as a journalist in Russia. It was covered in Swedish news here, god knows why they thought that would be a good idea.
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Russia's Faltering Economy: By The Numbers http://www.vocativ.com/news/289955/russias-faltering-economy-by-the-numbers 6.3% drop in real wages in 2015 20% rise in food prices in 2015 40% drop in car sales in 2015 Putin approval as of January 2016 82% according to Levada Center Keep supporting the fucker who makes your life significantly worse every year, Russians. lol Lucy Heartfilia fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Feb 27, 2016 |
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Feb 27, 2016 23:26
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:40% drop in car sales in 2015 A couple of Western luxury car manufacturers had record years of sales in Russia, however.
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OddObserver posted:A couple of Western luxury car manufacturers had record years of sales in Russia, however. I have seen theorising in the press that this is due to search for storage of value that is more secure and stable than currency. Having a good that usually is thought of as losing significant value the moment it is bought being more stable than currency is one of those ideas that seem fantastical but just might be believable in Russia.
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Feb 27, 2016 23:45
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:Keep supporting the fucker who makes your life significantly worse every year, Russians. lol If life become poo poo, then stronk mother Russia warms heart.
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I was reading that Janes' analysis and was surprised that they shitted on missile defense. Deployment of 40 interceptors is only possible because ballistic missile defense hasn't been a priority since the fall of the USSR and, despite it's increasing technical feasibility, it's a red-headed stepchild in the Pentagon. The cost of the GMD program is something like $40 billion dollars by 2017, but, in comparison, that's a drop in the bucket to the $1.3 trillion dollars we've spent on the F-35 program, and we've gotten successful intercepts out of GMD and THAAD. Now would be the time to put missile defense as a top priority. It would neutralize the Russians' perennial threats of nuclear annihilation whenever someone considers countering something like Crimea takeover or using regular military in Donbass. Let the Russians spend to try to modernize their ballistic weapons to penetrate an upgraded missile defense network, it'll pull more money from their conventional military and bankrupt them faster. Imagine what would happen to their foreign policy if the Russians didn't have their nuclear weapons, we wouldn't be sitting on our hands with letting them bomb rebels and prop up Assad in Syria.
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:Russia's Faltering Economy: By The Numbers This might come as a surprise to you, but hardship caused by what are perceived as external actors tends to harden support.
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Friendly Humour posted:This might come as a surprise to you, but hardship caused by what are perceived as external actors tends to harden support. specially when from the left to the right there's a lot of weird respect for a man who just keeps doing his best to turn two countries into stateless wastelands.
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steinrokkan posted:Why can't Poles be as smart as dogs? Put this in the rotation for the thread title
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Friendly Humour posted:This might come as a surprise to you, but hardship caused by what are perceived as external actors tends to harden support. Not surprising. Just pretty hilarious.
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Young Freud posted:I was reading that Janes' analysis and was surprised that they shitted on missile defense. Deployment of 40 interceptors is only possible because ballistic missile defense hasn't been a priority since the fall of the USSR and, despite it's increasing technical feasibility, it's a red-headed stepchild in the Pentagon. The cost of the GMD program is something like $40 billion dollars by 2017, but, in comparison, that's a drop in the bucket to the $1.3 trillion dollars we've spent on the F-35 program, and we've gotten successful intercepts out of GMD and THAAD. MAD and the cold war are still in living memory, so restricting missile defense to token containment of North Korea and previously Iran is a feature, not a bug.
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Young Freud posted:I was reading that Janes' analysis and was surprised that they shitted on missile defense. Deployment of 40 interceptors is only possible because ballistic missile defense hasn't been a priority since the fall of the USSR and, despite it's increasing technical feasibility, it's a red-headed stepchild in the Pentagon. The cost of the GMD program is something like $40 billion dollars by 2017, but, in comparison, that's a drop in the bucket to the $1.3 trillion dollars we've spent on the F-35 program, and we've gotten successful intercepts out of GMD and THAAD. And then one gets through and whoops, there goes Los Angeles.
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Forums Terrorist posted:And then one gets through and whoops, there goes Los Angeles. Acceptable losses.
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Young Freud posted:I was reading that Janes' analysis and was surprised that they shitted on missile defense. Deployment of 40 interceptors is only possible because ballistic missile defense hasn't been a priority since the fall of the USSR and, despite it's increasing technical feasibility, it's a red-headed stepchild in the Pentagon. The cost of the GMD program is something like $40 billion dollars by 2017, but, in comparison, that's a drop in the bucket to the $1.3 trillion dollars we've spent on the F-35 program, and we've gotten successful intercepts out of GMD and THAAD. Even a non-nuclear WW3 seems like it would be pretty lovely.
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:Even a non-nuclear WW3 seems like it would be pretty lovely. I live in North America and am too fat and stupid to be drafted so it can't be terrible for me.
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Friendly Humour posted:This might come as a surprise to you, but hardship caused by what are perceived as external actors tends to harden support. You're softballing it, they correctly identify the cause of their economic woes as caused by Western sanctions and oil price manipulation by the West's ally Saudi Arabia. So very predictably people are supporting the guy who's standing up to those countries more than anyone else on earth.
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I want to see Alberta's wild rose party to start getting Putinist support for a "kudatah" after the west and their Saudi allies have destroyed their proud hole-based economy. Little green men coming over the arctic circle to help poor oppressed albertan's who have always been 2nd class citizens in Canada. An alliance of garbage countries with massive inferiority complexes hurt by low oil prices.
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:Not surprising. Just pretty hilarious.
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Runaktla posted:While I agree that "gently caress Putin and everybody that is part of his elite club" the Russian populace have really no better option. Kinda lovely.
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kalstrams posted:Your line of thought is the penultimate achievement of Putin's policies. Bonus points for mention of "lack of alternatives" on one year anniversary of the Nemtsov assassination.
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America needs to meet Putin by injecting some Limonov into our politics - Trump has been doing this toward the right - I have been pulling in the opposite direction.
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kalstrams posted:Your line of thought is the penultimate achievement of Putin's policies. It's apparently the primary achievement of Obama's policies as well because that's what any sane observer would expect Russians to conclude.
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McDowell posted:America needs to meet Putin by injecting some Limonov into our politics - Trump has been doing this toward the right - I have been pulling in the opposite direction. Having someone call Trump a natzbol in a debate would be pretty awesome.
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Thug Lessons posted:It's apparently the primary achievement of Obama's policies as well because that's what any sane observer would expect Russians to conclude. What is sane about concluding that Obama's policies is what determine the political alternative to Putin in Russia? Is this one of those "nobody has agency outside of the Agency" posts?
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Thug Lessons posted:It's apparently the primary achievement of Obama's policies as well because that's what any sane observer would expect Russians to conclude. Yes, Putin centering Russian politics around himself over the course of the last 15 years sure is the fault of Obama and Amerikkka.
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Radio Prune posted:Yes, Putin centering Russian politics around himself over the course of the last 15 years sure is the fault of Obama and Amerikkka. The end of the USSR and the economic suffering that followed set the stage for Putin reconstituting Czarism. The USA's foreign policy appartus never stopped fighting the Cold War and here we are.
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Cat Mattress posted:What is sane about concluding that Obama's policies is what determine the political alternative to Putin in Russia? Look at the comments from the series of posters you're responding to. Everyone acknowledges the current political support for Putin is entirely predictable given Obama's response, and he and the rest of the executive branch were definitely not ignorant that this would be the case.
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Vagon posted:As an outsider to the American right, what has Trump's talk/policy on Russia been? Kill them all or respect for another Stronk Man? Literally 'I will shake hands and make deals with Putin' with beltway people desperately trying to tell Americans this would be the end of the world.
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Vagon posted:As an outsider to the American right, what has Trump's talk/policy on Russia been? Kill them all or respect for another Stronk Man? The latter.
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McDowell posted:Literally 'I will shake hands and make deals with Putin' with beltway people desperately trying to tell Americans this would be the end of the world. It's pretty insane living in a world where the candidate whose Russia policy has the highest practicality + sanity sum is loving Donald Trump.
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Vagon posted:As an outsider to the American right, what has Trump's talk/policy on Russia been? Kill them all or respect for another Stronk Man? Putin's read Trump like one of the Don's ghostwritten books and has already been stroking his ego. Like Bush before him, he knows a mark when he sees them and is already getting his retina implants that look like a soul whenever Trump looks into his eyes. Expect Ukraine, Georgia, and the Baltics to be sold out and reintegrated with Russia by 2020 under President Trump.
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