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Haha, the geo data in that image is also a good attempt, but not quiet. They went for the Polish military HQ, but instead located in the university next door. I guess they thought glass dome, palace exteriors = must be military HQ. The actual HQ is a non-descript, modernist building down the road. And further down on that road, there’s the security service HQ, too. Fun fact: I went to high school on that street. Our studniówka, Polish prom I guess, was held in the closest viable place - a Police billards club “Magnum” that normally holds lonely heart afternoons for ex cops in the evening (aside from the military and security HQ, there’s also the central Police crime laboratory next door). It had 80’s woodshit on the walls, and they moved some of the billiard tables aside so we could dance our Polonez. Also Kazik Staszewski lived next door, and seeing him every morning walking his dog blew our heads for, like, the first two weeks. https://youtu.be/x3kicEsx7g0
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Anne Frank Funk posted:Also, a XIXth century style scary orphanage is on the same street. Famous for being visited by Michael Jackson. Haha, I know your building  . Our school yard shared a wall with the orphanage on the left (they renovated it and it’s a conservatory apparently, nice on, too) and a juvie jail on the right. Whichever wall we’d kick the ball over, it probably wasn’t coming back.
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Nenonen posted:This constant moving troops to and from the border makes me think Russians are doing the classic caracole maneuver against Ukraine, except they're not firing their shots. This is exactly what they’re doing and have been doing for the past few months. There’s a bit more to setting up a military operation.
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FishBulbia posted:EU signing off on it Disconnecting SWIFT would be satisfying from a ‘haha, gently caress you’ perspective, but what they say in the article is correct - it would also hurt western markets and would accelerate Russia building an alternative system with other asian countries. Instead it gives insight into Russian financial operations and allows for a more targeted approach - only thing is it hasn’t really been used properly yet, the sanctions system is lackluster at best.
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Nenonen posted:https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ru675#2a81cd2a It's certainly unusual, considering the standard route this flight number takes and the fact they did end up close to some off-limits areas in Finland. There'a a theory floating around that they were flying to Murmansk, couldn't land due to weather or some technical issues and opted to fly back to Leipzig, where Air Bridge Cargo has a base and where this flight normally terminates at, but the flight parameters and other patterns don't seem to agree. What I'm saying is: if this was a coincidence, then it was a hell of one. Mokotow fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Jan 18, 2022 |
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Chechnya 1994: 1 milion Afghanistan 1979: 13 million Syria 2010: 21 milion Afghanistan 2001: 21 million Ukraine 2021: 41 million C'mon Russia, have a forever war.
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BoldFace posted:Eh... this is much more pleasant than what the troops from northern Russia ared used to in January. Huh. Meanwhile in Poland: https://twitter.com/sob_pl/status/1484110811433943040?s=21
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This thread was always fine and is fine even with a little Clancy chat (as a treat). When it’s too much, it’s kinda clear to everyone. Two permanent EE threads are not the way, smart and active moderation is. If Donbas global powerplay chat happens, it needs to be redirected to a new thread for a few weeks and brought back when things relax. Active moderation is always preferable.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:For actual developments, instead of analytical commentary - Reuters, Associated Press. Yeah, honestly the big news organisations seem to take extra effort to filter out propaganda and other detritus from the news when it comes to EE. Conversely, straying into “independent media” territory will send you into one of the numerous agitprop traps set up by any one of the dozen governments involved.
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Grouchio posted:Why would he deploy 8500 troops if he declared no boots on Ukrainian soil? To prevent incursions into actual NATO states? For now, he’s placing troops on alert, so that they can be readily deployed if needed.
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It's important to note re: Russians in EE that the Baltics and Ukraine are in a unique position versus other EE countries, in that they have a significant minority of Russians in their population, where's Poland, Czechia, Slovakia and Hungary have none (aside from transient workers, which are still very few and far between). Now, in my personal Polish experience, it's super easy to latch on to common negative propaganda about Russians, because it's the dominating view, and since there are no Russians around to confront it with, that's what most people would go with. Conversely, older people who remember when Russians were around, have a warmer recollection of Russians just because of the human contact factor. And having said THAT, I found every Russian I ever met, in Poland or in the west, not particularly pleasant or making me feel like I'd want to spend more time with them, but that might be very well on me, not them.
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mobby_6kl posted:Uhh I don't know about that, it's the older people who would remember the Russians rolling into their countries on tanks Depends which country. Poland was invaded by Russians in 1939 - my grandparents were kids and came of age after World War 2, so Russian-ran Poland was their reality. Now had they been born in Hungary, they'd live through the 1956 invasion, so their take might have been different. And if my parent would live in Czechoslovakia in 1968, I imagine their outlook would have been different, too.
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Western media outlets are uncontrolled and dependent on clicks. Hysterics generate traffic, which is a downside of this system, but still outweighs the cons from having an autocratic media landscape. It plays into Putin's hand, though, because he can manipulate western media easily, cause fear in western populations, which then exert pressure on western governments to negotiate with Russia to avert a war.
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Seems like Croatian infighting more than anything else, though TASS and the troll farm latched onto it immediately
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Russian embassy in Georgia got trolled. https://twitter.com/propeertys/status/1486429802957529090?s=21
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https://twitter.com/mic_marek/status/1486613411618299909?s=20&t=_rBs-NQOWTvkfvL44bw0Jg Russian press are onto a ploy, wherein tactical plans are revelead *checks notes*... on a commemorative coin? In the height of the border crisis, in order to drum up patriotism, the Polish mint released a border forces coin. Apparently it's symbolic that the chopper is shown hovering over Kaliningrad, and is a clear sign the Poles are planning to invade. Mokotow fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Jan 28, 2022 |
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 Should this be pork, veal, chicken or turkey? Would you throw a fried egg on it? How about yellow cheese? Mushrooms? What side would go best with it?
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Also, you were just the goon I was looking for. Can you tl;dr me current stage of the PiS spyware drama and your parliamentary inquest? There’s a senate inquest going, since the opposition has a slim majority there. Sadly, the senate’s inquiry doesn’t have prosecutorial rights, and can’t obligate anybody to anything. PiS is ignoring it, but they’ve also blocked an independent security expert from a military academy from testifying by threatening him with who knows what. The parliament inquiry is actively pursued by Tusk and it seems there’s currently an even split for/against. Paweł Kukiz, a burnt out alcoholic rock star and once political darling, now PiS’s whore, turned the table on them and promised his vote in exchange for the chairman’s seat and scope extension so that POs use of invigilation tools is also within it. PO is fine with that. We’re now waiting for defections to either kill the inquiry or kick poo poo off.
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How are u posted:
I’d hazard a guess that in EE you mostly would not have sauce because of the breading. Some horrible 90’s roadside bar’s would sometimes attempt a cream and mushrooms sauce. As a kid I remember these would produced en masse for a family gathering - you’s get mashed potatos and a tomato or a piece of salad with. The thing is the babcia’s would churn out like 50 of these bad boys for the whole family and bring them out in a miednica (an oval bucket you’d normally do you clothes washing in because no one would own plates that big) In Warsaw, traditionally they’re done super simple - pork, breading, mashed potatoes and either mizeria (fresh sliced cucumber in cream with sugar) or peas and carrots. You can grab a plate at a milk bar for 3 EUR. I expected there to be differences but I’m shocked by what I’m seeing. Mayonnaise would never occur to me. Also, in the Rhein-Ruhr region, chicken is the default, which I don’t think even exists in Poland (not to be confused with chicken kiev, which does, albeit not in a form where you use a wooden hammer to smash it super flat).
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szary posted:Sauce on a schabowy? What is this heresy!? Is melted cheese sauce? 🤔 Edit: sweet jezusiczku, this is some morbid poo poo https://www.google.com/search?q=sch...mobile&ie=UTF-8
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I remember having a schnitzel with green sauce in Frankfurt, which is apparently a thing there and that also doesn’t work. https://www.google.com/search?q=fra...8&bih=751&dpr=3 Also is schnitzel and schabowy the same thing Mokotow fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Jan 28, 2022 |
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selec posted:That’s a tenderloin. Here in Iowa (and much of the Midwest) it’s pork, served on a bun, with fries. Typical condiments include ketchup, mustard or Mayo. What sort of bun. Like a brioche burger bun or something else? They go VERY well between two slices of sourbread. And the condiments, these would go onto the meat or as a side for the fries?
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TipTow posted:Snip What’s your favorite eastern European food, friend? I think it’s helpful to note most jewish cuisine is tied to EE, too.
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anilEhilated posted:
Oh yeah, you get it.
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I think if anything we’re far far away from a consensus
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Na zdrowie! Smacznego!
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Warsaw used to have a bollard affair back in the late 90s, kinda like the Zagreb one it seems. Whole city was strewn with dark green bollards, none of which are around today. Once highway construction kicked off a few years ago, we had a country version of bollard gate - noise screen gate. You now have 100 km long stretches of highways running through empty nowheres, surrounded by 6 meter tall non-transparent fencing. This was due to some very strange, “accidental” environmental regulations and people standing at the ready with a seemingly endless supply of highway noise barriers.
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selec posted:Highly relevant to this thread’s interests, check the third picture I don’t think its breaded and as long as its cheese on top and not more cream, I’ll allow it, though I would seriously question the paprika.
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Sekenr posted:At first I thoght the salad was the remains of kholodnik cold soup but all I see is cucumber so, probably not The salad is mizeria - light cream and fresh cucumber slices, with a dash of sugar. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizeria
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Strangely enough mizeria seems to be of italian origin - insalate della miseria - so it’s quiet likely we got it from Bona di Sforza along with, you know, the rest of non-potato vegetables.
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Hm this does’t look familiar. There’s a strong demarcation on the Polish-Ukrainian border, where, when you go east, “things served in the vessel they were baked in” territory starts. No, bigos doesn’t count.
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Tusk started out on the right, then moved centre-right, and he’s somhere centre-left these days. I’m driving from south to north across Poland along the eastern border right now, there’s so much military traffic going both ways I stopped counting. Just went by a convoy of two AAA launchers heading south.
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 In the pots warmed the bigos; mere words cannot tell Of its wondrous taste, colour and marvellous smell. One can hear the words buzz, and the rhymes ebb and flow, But its content no city digestion can know. To appreciate the Lithuanian folksong and folk food, You need health, live on land, and be back from the wood. Without these, still a dish of no mediocre worth Is bigos, made from legumes, best grown in the earth; Pickled cabbage comes foremost, and properly chopped, Which itself, is the saying, will in one's mouth hop; In the boiler enclosed, with its moist bosom shields Choicest morsels of meat raised on greenest of fields; Then it simmers, till fire has extracted each drop Of live juice, and the liquid boils over the top, And the heady aroma wafts gently afar. Now the bigos is ready. With triple hurrah Charge the huntsmen, spoon-armed, the hot vessel to raid, Brass thunders and smoke belches, like camphor to fade, Only in depths of cauldrons, there still writhes there later Steam, as if from a dormant volcano's deep crater.
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Speaking of UKPol, Boris is coming to Poland Thursday to talk about Ukraine.
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Hey mods, I think we’ll take the EE hang-out thread over this cesspool. Maybe rename this one to Russia vs Ukraine or vice versa.
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