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Pierogi posted:Well then!
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2016 13:26 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 05:23 |
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They're going at it backwards. They should keep the doctrine and avoid the bad press, while at the same time removing all regulations that make obtaining evidence illegaly illegal. "Fruit of the poisonous tree" still applies, illegally obtained evidence is still inadmissable, except all ways of obtaining evidence are legal. Where's my cushy government job Mr. Ziobro?
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2016 11:14 |
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My favourite part about this is that PIS wanted the Court to assess the new act while still following the new act. The act, I stress, changes the rules and composition of the Court. Which means that, if the Court had still declared the act as unconstitutional (still a realistic option), this would mean that this verdict was announced by a Court that followed an unconstitutional act in their proceedings, and therefore the verdict is invalid. But if the verdict is invalid, then the law is constitutional after all. And then the verdict is valid after all, and the law is unconstitutional, but that means etc. The "four balls on the endge of a cliff" approach to law, in other words. Of course, this is why stuff like vacatio legis exists. But the new act bypassed vacatio legis because Fun fact: The leader of PIS is a doctor of law.
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2016 19:35 |
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Indeed they did, the magnificent bastards. (The context is that the PM is trying to stonewall the verdict by refusing to publish it, which is required to make it binding. So Razem decided to symbolically accelerate the process. ) (And they even managed to get shown in the media for it, bonus!)
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2016 20:13 |
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DrProsek posted:Is there anything the court could do to compel the PM to publish the verdict? I guess there's the nuclear option of saying "publish it or don't, we're going forward with the assumption this verdict is binding".
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2016 20:41 |
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Birch can't break steel beams.
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2016 17:45 |
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I'm not really into Pokemon.
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2016 18:15 |
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waitwhatno posted:What is this talk about a full NATO membership? Is it some conspiracy theory? Although you never know with Macierewicz (the minister in question), the guy is completely nuts and looks and acts like the goddamn Master. Case in point, just one day after the aforementioned speech about closer ties with our awesome NATO allies, the guy goes on record stating that Americans have no business criticising PIS for treating the Constitutional Tribunal like a clown car, since it's absurd that "people who built their state as late as the 18th century are telling us what democracy is", whereas the Polish state totes had democratic systems as early as the 13th century (Fun Fact: There was no unified Polish state in the 13th century, as it had fragmented into a collection of Kleinstaaterei-like bickering, independent provinces).
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2016 13:12 |
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jonnypeh posted:What this means is if you're walking around drunk without wearing a reflector you will get fined 800 euros instead of previous 400. Without being drunk its just 40->80. edit - Apparently, according to Wiki, it's a thing in Finland, Latvia and Lithuania as well. What is it with the Baltics and their obsession with safety reflectors? (Replace "Baltics" with "limitrophes" if you're a Finn and you take objection to being piled together with those dirty Balts.) Pizdec fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Mar 21, 2016 |
# ¿ Mar 21, 2016 17:48 |
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Friendly Humour posted:Yeah the thing about laws and northerners is that our cops aren't complete dickheads, so even if you broke some petty law they ain't gonna fine you unless you give them a reason by being rude. This might be hard to comprehend if you happen to live in a society where the police is the enemy of the public.
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2016 19:04 |
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Shes Not Impressed posted:Barring I pass all my medical stuff, I'll be heading off to Ukraine for the Peace Corps in September. Reading this thread throughout grad school has probably prepared me more for the job than anything else. One aspect of living in Eastern Europe that I don't look forward to having to deal with some of the overt anti-Semitism though.
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2016 18:13 |
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mobby_6kl posted:I doubt any Syrian refugees are willingly going to Ukraine so he should be safe. And, in (very slightly) more serious news, some politicians in Poland want to build a wall on the eastern border, arguing that refugees will be coming through Ukraine once the current routes become impassable. Now, I'm not sure how that would work, given that Ukraine's outside of Schengen and there are border controls already in place, AND you need to consider that the politicians in question are from the Kukiz '15 party (Poland's UKIP), but the expectation is there. edit - ^^^^^^ beaten like a Muslim wife!!!! Pizdec fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Mar 23, 2016 |
# ¿ Mar 23, 2016 18:46 |
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Palpek posted:Now that I checked - Poland accepted almost 90 thousand Chechen Muslims, no deal made out of it at all. But now these 7 thousand Syrians, holy poo poo those guys are all spies waiting to blow themselves up because Islam is a religion of intolerance you see . Actually, I had a Chechen living upstairs and he was the best neighbour I've ever had, then some 100% homegrown non-parents with their awful kids came in and everything turned to poo poo. Let the Musselman come as far as I'm concerned. edit - Fuuuck, beaten again.
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2016 19:36 |
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szary posted:It gets "better", apparently the proposed act penalises "involuntary prenatal murder", which means that if a woman miscarries she might be prosecuted because she didn't look after herself properly during the pregnancy and might have contributed to the miscarriage! szary posted:Having said that, I think this is a smoke screen - PiS dropped the abortion bomb, a shitstorm ensued and now barely anyone remembers about the constitutional crisis. Re: Russian relations chat - it's worth mentioning that far-right elements in Poland do have a weird Trump-like fascination with Putin, both for his specific policies towards the "Jew homonazi agenda" and in general for being a Stronk Leader. Still, even they prefer him as a role model than as an actual partner.
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2016 22:19 |
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Just posting so this doesn't go unappreciated, thank you brother.
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2016 21:06 |
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fishmech posted:Actually is, according to the laws in many countries, and by many people who claim to be against "abortion". Aside from that I just wanted to give you guys kudos for making Lucy Heartfilia mad at something other than Putin. Death to babies!
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# ¿ Apr 3, 2016 01:11 |
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On the other hand, good news everyone! Internal struggles whithin the party have led PiS to increasingly distance themselves from the proposed total abortion ban, instead openly pleading the clergy to accept some other offering e.g. religion as a matura exam subject (matura = SAT tests, more or less). Also, the national TV has been laughably bad ever since PiS purged all the staff and replaced them with party stooges. The Smolensk commemoration documentary they broadcast yesterday had a studio segment in a set so haphazardly made it visibly wobbled constantly, but the biggest blunder was a phone-in show using pre-recorded calls, which was revealed when someone forgot to turn off the autoloop. Basically it's Kaczynski trying to be Putin and failing miserably.
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# ¿ Apr 11, 2016 21:16 |
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A Pale Horse posted:I really can't believe that anyone except the absolute fringe of PiS believe that Smolensk was anything other than a tragic accident. What possible reason would Tusk have to kill the President who was 20 points down in the polls for re-election. It boggles the mind. These people are clinically insane or despicable cynical opportunists of the worst order. I mean, last I remember, less than a third of Poles believe in the Assassination conspiracy theory so what's their play here politically speaking? Who are they trying to appeal to? Oh.
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# ¿ Apr 11, 2016 21:25 |
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chitoryu12 posted:
I mean it's just a cartoon I know but do some bloody research.
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2016 14:14 |
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Xerxes17 posted:Dammit guys, just have preferential voting for gently caress's sake
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2016 07:24 |
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cargo cult posted:Russians were supposed to be given vouchers in state owned industries that were being privatized but of course the only people with any business experience were literal gangsters and smugglers, and welp, here we are. Dwesa posted:I read somewhere a conspiracy theory that current popularity of beards can be attributed to secret attempts to make Europeans comfortable with muslim immigrants (and then something about muslim takeover, NWO and blah blah), because apparently beards = muslims.
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2016 16:24 |
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steinrokkan posted:The same model was used also in Poland and elsewhere, but universally it was... Problematic. There were always scammers, and even in more successful countries the losses incurred by common citizens went into the billions. The idea was to give everybody a chance to invest into select national corporations (not all businesses were offered in exchange for vouchers), but people were gullible, and often put their vouchers into mutual funds schemes whose managers took off with their money. Nowadays it's one of the privatization methods that the World Bank advises against. HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:What is the Polish government doing now?
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# ¿ Aug 25, 2016 08:11 |
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A White Guy posted:I had a Polish Jewish holocaust survivor speak at my middle school when I was a wee lad, guy by the name of David Faber if you want to look him up. He was very bitter about how the Poles did absolutely nothing to help the Jews. It's important to remember the holocaust was the worst in Poland, and that wasn't just because it was the first nation occupied. The Poles may not have helped the Nazis, but they sure as poo poo didn't help the Jews. Wikipedia posted:The citizens of Poland have the world's highest count of individuals who have been recognized by Yad Vashem as Righteous Among the Nations for saving Jews from extermination during the Holocaust in World War II. There are 6,620 Polish men and women recognized as Righteous to this day, over a quarter of the total number of 26,120[1] awards. e: beaten like a Jew in Pilsudzkiland Pizdec fucked around with this message at 13:19 on Aug 25, 2016 |
# ¿ Aug 25, 2016 12:47 |
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The Uzbek talk is fascinating, if depressing because I now have to add another black hole of misery to my metal image of the world.Rinkles posted:Smalec, Szmalec was another. (Lard spread is the English term?)
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# ¿ Sep 14, 2016 04:12 |
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Pierogi posted:I've watched Smolensk the movie! My review: It's been changed, though.
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# ¿ Sep 14, 2016 13:34 |
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A reminder that Finns are Slavs after all.
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# ¿ Sep 16, 2016 13:23 |
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With how huge post-nuclear media are in EE you'd think the guy would at least have the good sense to name it the New California Republic. Oh, wait, sorry, then it wouldn't have been taken seriously.
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# ¿ Sep 28, 2016 01:53 |
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Anything new on this?cyberbully posted:And in Hungary, the Magyars held their referendum
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# ¿ Oct 5, 2016 00:28 |
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Discendo Vox posted:I read a headline today about how the total abortion ban failed? The next vote will commence in about 8 hours, so we'll know more then. However, keep in mind we've already been through this poo poo 6 months ago. Even if the thing fails to pass as it did then, there's nothing stopping the party from dipping into this well every time the ultra-conservative elements of the party or the electoral base start getting fidgety and hungry for liberal tears.
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2016 01:32 |
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Yeah, the abortion ban was trashed. Even the ruling party voted overwhelmingly against it - out of 234 PiS MPs, 186 of them voted nay. For comparison, just two weeks ago 230 of them voted for pushing the project further down the legislative trail. It's a wonder what 2 points down in the polls do for your personal beliefs. However, the party has already announced that further down the line they will prepare their own bill to establish tougher abortion restrictions (the recent proposal was a citizens' initiative), so see y'all in 6 months I guess? :T
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2016 11:25 |
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A couple months back, before the matter became hot, PiS was a bit more forthcoming with the details i.e. that Airbus was trying to weasel out of installing the navigational systems. They've gone tight-lipped since, though.Rinkles posted:Somehow missed this:
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# ¿ Oct 11, 2016 07:15 |
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A Pale Horse posted:Its an excellent and deeply disturbing film about the cruelty and evil that nationalism spurs men to. * I mean of course there loving were, but it's like prefacing Downfall with "KEEP IN MIND HOWEVER THAT THE CURRENT GERMAN LEADER ANGELA MERKEL IS NOT ACTIVELY KILLING JEWS AT THIS POINT IN TIME".
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# ¿ Nov 4, 2016 16:35 |
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I think he was joking by interpreting 'essay' as literally 'an essay for school' and referencing the fact that Poland is so hosed that such an essay would've been way too long for you to ask someone else to do it. i.e. Baronjutter posted:Catholicism + Nationalism + Historical Trauma + Lack of Regard for Fundamental Rights due to the Constitution Having Been Written Barely 20 Years Ago by a Commie + 90s Mass Selling of National Assets to Western Companies Now Conflated with the EU + Disillusionment with Failing Neoliberal Policies + The Entirety of the Left Being Branded Communists + Mass Emigration + ... Pizdec fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Mar 10, 2017 |
# ¿ Mar 10, 2017 19:16 |
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vyelkin posted:They undermine the traditional patriarchal structure of the family and society by weakening traditional masculinity, since in this framework masculinity is most of all about power and dominance, and gay men subvert that both by making men the objects of seduction (rather than purely the subjects) and by making men the submissive partner during sex (as well as the dominant partner). That's why guys like Kadyrov don't just say that being gay is bad, they say that homosexuality literally doesn't exist in their proper traditional masculine society, because their masculinity is so strong that it could never be undermined like that.
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2017 22:29 |
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Osmosisch posted:I think Poland is more the anomaly here, possibly due to its relative cultural & linguistic stability over a long time, imperialistic partitionings notwithstanding. Even my tiny country has sections that just straight up don't understand each other, with one area (Frisia) being so weird that their dialect is officially a different language: This means, for example, that translating a piece of media that features multiple dialects (i.e. Australian English, Cockney, Bronx) into Polish would be a huge challenge, since the only variants available to the translator to convey those differences would be standard Polish, Silesian, and the aforementioned hodgepodge of dialects which would come across as non-descript rural/folsky speech. One could always draw upon historical sources and use specific pre-1945 dialects, but they wouldn't carry any specific connotations to the modern speaker, geographical or otherwise. (Is this a or a ? Oh well, I'll put both just in case.)
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2017 13:51 |
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Oh yeah, I forgot about the Podhale dialect. I sort of mentally conflated it with Silesian, even though they only thing they have in common is being spoken in the mountainous South. Chalk it up to me being a Mazury boy. While it's true that Stalin's relocation efforts were quite specific (get the folk from the lost territories in the East to the new territories in the West, done) and, in theory, should have only resulted in an emergence of a new mixed dialect in the West while preserving variation in the rest of Poland (and this is how linguistic maps compiled in the 60s and 70s present it), in practice, further population movements and the influence of the mass media diluted the language to the point where everyone except the Silesians and the Gorole speaks in a "new mixed dialect" with some individual quirks. (There's also Kashubian and things like the Wilno dialect, but the former is basically a distinct language, the latter is spoken outside of Poland, and both are pretty much unrecognized by the Polish collective consciousness.) Aside from that, we seem to be saying basically the same thing. edit - To keep it from being a Polish-centric discussion, perhaps the other former Soviet Bloc posters could chime in on how the other CE languages survived the communist regime in terms of diversity? It's barely a political topic, but I'm a sucker for linguistic stuff like this. Pizdec fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Apr 30, 2017 |
# ¿ Apr 30, 2017 17:43 |
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Tevery Best posted:This is also something every kid who tries to translate anything for the first time in their life thinks makes perfect sense, and something you should never, ever, ever do Flipswitch posted:I've been learning Polish with my girlfriend to better interact with her family (and because I find it interesting and enjoyable), I do like that spelling and pronounciation seems to be consistent so far.
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# ¿ May 1, 2017 12:51 |
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Tevery Best posted:Yes, bad ones. Although I honestly can't name a single one off the top of my head. This school of translation is also practiced in other countries that dub most of their movies. I don't know how widespread it is, but I do remember reading about the Russian dub of Deadpool giving Colossus a Siberian accent.
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# ¿ May 1, 2017 14:55 |
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What are the actual questions?
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# ¿ May 3, 2017 17:38 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 05:23 |
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Oh god, I used to be quasi-conversant in Polish and never got this.
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# ¿ May 9, 2017 08:32 |