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Somaen posted:Europe is forcing all Belavia planes to land right now by closing their airspace i mean, it is an incredibly dumb measure. if you're stuck in belarus you have to fly to moscow first now, all this does is give more money to russian oligarchs lmfao
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Xarn posted:guys guys guys guys comparing putin, as bad as he is, to hitler is insanely loving rich, so yes i am laughing at you lmfao
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i think the solution to this conundrum is to give a couple hundred nukes to both ukraine and cuba
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i mean, merkel shutting down all nukes before she could get them replaced with renewables was insanely dumb, but are stated green policies any different on that particular topic?
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i'm not blaming anything on greens i'm asking if their policies on nuclear are just as dumb
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like, i'm 100% sure part of the reason why the green parties get fuckall in elections so far despite the ecological situation being insanely dire is how hysteric they can present themselves over issues like nuclear just this morning some insane person was asking me why i don't care about what will happen to spent radioactive fuel in 10k years when the continents shift and tectonics change, lmfao
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Antigravitas posted:Nuclear is politically entirely dead in Germany, not just economically dead due to the extreme costs. That is the reality across parties i dunno man quote:Kurz vor der Bundestagswahl erreicht der Strompreis hierzulande ein neues Allzeithoch. Drei Viertel der Deutschen fordern von der nächsten Bundesregierung deshalb einen Strompreis-Stopp. Dafür würde jeder Dritte (31 Prozent) sogar an der Atomkraft festhalten – 11 Prozentpunkte mehr als noch vor drei Jahren. another decade of price hikes and germans are gonna be staunch nuclear supporters lmfao
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steinrokkan posted:Historical price hikes and 30% support, thanks for proving that nuclear is more dead than disco jesus christ dude, thanks for explaining my joke in such great detail Antigravitas posted:Doubtful. Gas will have a future as emergency standby power since it's much quicker to spool up, but right now it is holding pretty steady while coal is cratering due to market forces despite excessive sweetheart deals the conservatives made for that industry. that's what the plan is, but it brings me no pleasure to report that sadly, coal is very much not yet cratering https://www.dw.com/en/germany-coal-tops-wind-as-primary-electricity-source/a-59168105
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nurmie posted:no no no, oligarchs just spontaneously materialised all over russia one day in 1992. clearly some nefarious plot by americans. maybe some DARPA superweapon yes, but we already knew stalin was right
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FishBulbia posted:wrong wrong wront that's a p-47 and not an il-2 you dummy
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yes, a deliberate murder of tens of millions and a famine caused by gross mismanagement aren't the exact same thing, i'm glad you understand
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i thought liberalism was all about supporting the lesser evil (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:America is keeping the Europeans out of the European security deal. good riddance, are they also gonna be finally withdrawing their troops/bases?
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yeah it was more of a joke question sorry
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Nenonen posted:defect to Guaido lmao maduro should be happy about anyone this dumb not being in his army anymore
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Alchenar posted:'War is just a tool of geopolitics like any other' is a hell of a take. well, this is an american forum lmao
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Xarn posted:Sorry, but wtf is wrong with Germans? they're honest and pragmatic, why do you ask 
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Paladinus posted:If Mexico had Russian military bases, and America attacked Mexico over it and annexed a bunch of territories, would that be justified? no, but we also shouldn't pretend that's not exactly what would happen
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Paladinus posted:And then what? as a poster on a dead gay comedy forum? absolutely nothing, lmao
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Paladinus posted:Cool poo poo. look, we've known since the 90s that russia doesn't want nato/west too close, but especially in ukraine https://clinton.presidentiallibraries.us/items/show/57569 read page 106 here back in the 90s, russia was in no position to do poo poo. in 2008 under bush during the bucharest conference, despite knowing russia's position, ukraine got told they'd get into nato "eventually". as a lovely state russia has lovely geopolitical goals, and since they're apparently in position to cause poo poo now, they're gonna exercise the power they have, when it's clear that otherwise everyone just kept ignoring them this is not an endorsement of russian actions or positions, this is a "what the gently caress else did people expect to happen after continuously ignoring everything out of russia". we can post about this poo poo all day, but the matter of fact is, the end result is basically the same as if russia/china said they'd station military bases between alaska and mainland USA, and canada said yes no problem
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i'm not calling out the condemnations, i'm calling out the idea that this entire conflict was somehow completely unavoidable by the west. when one side completely ignored the positions of the other for like 20 years, you don't get to pretend that. it's insanely lovely for people of ukraine, but this entire poo poo was brewed by both russia and nato, not just one side
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clearly, what's thousands of dead slavs over a principle amirite jesus loving christ dude
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Dude, that argument is like the most obvious one if you're reflexively anti-American rather than anti-imperialist, seeing as it's basically a one-to-one replacement of the countries involved. it's also the only other country that keeps stirring poo poo over the dumbest reasons. you can't really make that argument about modern day germany for example, it'd be weird e: not that germany isn't constantly stirring poo poo, but it's not doing it with their military
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QuoProQuid posted:i don’t think anyone is going to say that the years after the collapse of the Soviet Union were handled well by “the West,” but at a certain point you have to acknowledge that russia has its own agency and its stated motivation for instigating a crisis that could kill tens of thousands is an expansion of NATO that hasn’t happened and isn’t likely to happen. i agree, but also in 2008 NATO leadership could have said "see, russians keep saying they'd be real mad if we really took you in" and then kept doing nothing instead of going all "oh yeah, sure, we're definitely letting you in *wink wink nudge nudge*" every few years and then doing absolutely nothing anyway. that's the real headscratcher to me. if ukraine was in nato by 2014 none of this bullshit would fly either, but nope, gotta string them along. wtf?
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Al-Saqr posted:If Ukraine itself is saying there’s no invasion on the way whys everyone acting like the Russians are crossing the fulda gap mo money for raytheon, op
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lol how would US do that? by attacking german infrastructure?
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Dwesa posted:it sounds like it would be joint US-German action yeah i'm sure germany is just gonna let their citizens freeze to death for US to teach russia a lesson lmao
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Kalit posted:You should actually read articles before posting about them. Germany also seems to support this threat: yeah and talk's cheap. see also: russian demands (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Mokotow posted:Should this be pork, veal, chicken or turkey? yes
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Cugel the Clever posted:Ability to murder ≠ strength. this is good to know, surely then ukraine can easily win a war with russia. they should invade ASAP to put an end to this charade
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Mr. Smile Face Hat posted:I agree that this butthurt reaction wasn't optimal, even though the journalist probably thought he was hot poo poo asking supersmart questions when he wasn't. what? he was clearly asking insanely stupid questions that should have been very easy to answer. and yet! e: this is even dumber than saddam has wmd bullshit lmfao. oh no, russia has a video!  
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Alchenar posted:I'm with you on the lingustics but the underlying argument isn't really true. Russia had the opportunity to complain at every phase of NATO enlargement and didn't. The 2004 and 2009 enlargements happened under Putin's watch and he didn't make any fuss about it then. again, page 106 here: https://clinton.presidentiallibraries.us/items/show/57569 the russian position on eastward nato expansion has been known since yelcin at the absolute latest. they made a fuss about it in the 90s ffs furthermore:  this is from one of the wikileak cables https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08MOSCOW265_a.html, from feb 2008. the usa/nato knows *exactly* what game they're playing with ukrainians, they just don't give a single poo poo about them
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steinrokkan posted:Once again, apparently Ukrainians were sitting on the ground, lifeless as a sack of potatoes, their minds completely devoid of thought, until Westerners came along and filled their heads with ideas no, the westerners came along and made their situation explicitly worse in every way
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Wistful of Dollars posted:please elaborate on this assertion. Truga posted:i agree, but also in 2008 NATO leadership could have said "see, russians keep saying they'd be real mad if we really took you in" and then kept doing nothing instead of going all "oh yeah, sure, we're definitely letting you in *wink wink nudge nudge*" every few years and then doing absolutely nothing anyway. that's the real headscratcher to me. if ukraine was in nato by 2014 none of this bullshit would fly either, but nope, gotta string them along. wtf?
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i mean, apart from the the loving war in 2 of their regions, the constant saber rattling by the both putin and the west, and the rise of neonazi militias? just things going normally i guess
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:as i recall the dude in charge of Ukraine in 2014 was so extremely pro-russian and against co-operation with the west it led to his overthrow and domino'ed to the current state of affairs so I don't really know how Ukraine would join NATO between 2008 and 2014 with the west being all-in. so they should have said "you're not getting in" then, and thus avoiding a bunch of suffering for ukrainians because by 2014 clearly russia felt like they can handle propping up an insurgency now Wistful of Dollars posted:What portion of this blame do you attribute to Russia, since they're the ones directly causing this suffering? about 80%? russia's at fault here, but this could have been easily avoidable if bush admin didn't say the thing despite knowing full well ukraine is never getting in because not every nato ally wants them in. putin would have zero reason to do anything in ukraine if ukraine wasn't a nato candidate e: CommieGIR posted:Again: What saber rattling from the West? https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/23/politics/ukraine-us-second-weapons-shipment/index.html you mean this? e2: well gently caress Truga fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Feb 14, 2022 |
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