Eastern Europe: Olivier's sphere of influence

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lollontee: Nov 4, 2014; Can't post for 10 years!

Brown Moses posted:

Sorry, thought I replied to this, Bellingcat is funded for the next year by a grant from Google, that funds me, Aric, and all the costs of running the site. We're also applying for other funding, mainly for specific projects.

That's awfully nice of them. Did you ask for the grant or did they come to you?

# ¿ Mar 15, 2016 18:28

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lollontee: Nov 4, 2014; Can't post for 10 years!

CommieGIR posted:

I just want to hug them and tell them the world isn't as cruel as people make it seem to them

It is though.

# ¿ Mar 15, 2016 18:28

lollontee: Nov 4, 2014; Can't post for 10 years!

Brown Moses posted:

I went to them, they were keen to help out, I've done a lot with them on various events and projects, so we've had a pretty long relationship.

Cool!

# ¿ Mar 15, 2016 19:17

lollontee: Nov 4, 2014; Can't post for 10 years!

By the way, I was looking for any and all criticisms of you online and stumbled on your spat with Seymour Hersh and a MIT rocket expert team headed by Postol et al from like two years back about those Sarin gas attacks in Syria. And about ten thousand foilhat media articles denouncing you as a NATO lizard.

What I can't find is Hersh ever acknowledging that you even exist, did he ever actually respond to you in any way? Or Postol for that matter?

# ¿ Mar 15, 2016 19:18

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Brown Moses posted:

Yeah, he was interviewed in Diken about it
http://www.diken.com.tr/seymour-her...ttack-in-syria/

Diken then interview both myself and Dan Kaszeta about that interview
http://www.diken.com.tr/brown-moses...for-the-rebels/
http://www.diken.com.tr/dan-kaszeta...acturing-sarin/

Funnily enough, I was at the ARIJ journalism festival in Jordan, and Seymour Hersh was going to appear the day after I left, so all the Syrian journalists and activists there were very keen on me battling to the death with him at some point, but disappointed to know I wouldn't be there. They apparently gave him a real grilling on the subject (after a lengthy deep dive discussion with me), or so they told me after I left. So I managed to get mild food poisoning from some Lebanese food, and the next morning I'm up, ready to take my flight out of Jordan, and I leave my room, and head to the elevators. Just then, an American who is behind me asks "excuse me, do you know where they serve breakfast?", and I turn around and it's Seymour Hersh. Obviously he doesn't recognise me, and I'm feeling way too ill and gassy to start any debates, so I just say, "yeah, downstairs, to your left", and take the lift down to the lobby. Although in fairness, if I had been fit and healthy I probably wouldn't have bothered anyway, especially not before breakfast.

As for Ted Postol, I keep meeting people from MIT who give me the impression he's seen as a fringe figure among his fellow academics, and it was me and Dan Kaszeta who got invited to the OPCW's anniversary event, not Hersh and Postol.

From what I read, their criticisms basically boiled down to "but somebody else could potentially have made those rockets and sarins and attacks. We have zero evidence for any of it, but it's not disproven so therefore you're wrong and also Obama wants a war against Assad". So four years of work and the criticism seems to add up to "nuh-uh". Impressive.

# ¿ Mar 15, 2016 21:53

lollontee: Nov 4, 2014; Can't post for 10 years!

Brown Moses posted:

We also know the exact type of rockets used in the attacks were used in previously chemical attacks against opposition held areas, and also the explosive version of the same rocket was used since late 2012, and is still photographed and filmed in use today. I've examined images of these in extremely close detail, down to the bolts and welds, and all past examples are identical in every way to the ones used on August 21st 2013. So it's not only a case of being able to make them, but make them to be perfect copies of the ones used in previous attacks.

You can tell by some of the bolts and from having seen quite a few volcano rockets in your life.

# ¿ Mar 15, 2016 22:26

lollontee: Nov 4, 2014; Can't post for 10 years!

I guess it's easy to dismiss since your not even a real journalist and furthermore

# ¿ Mar 15, 2016 22:28

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Warbadger posted:

Photos of a thing are actually a pretty good way to see a thing.

That was a dumb meme post

# ¿ Mar 15, 2016 23:06

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bango skank posted:

Would you say it was just a bit of... friendly humour?

# ¿ Mar 15, 2016 23:20

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Brown Moses posted:

Just leaving this here

https://twitter.com/RobPulseNews/status/710076223418994688

# ¿ Mar 16, 2016 14:07

lollontee: Nov 4, 2014; Can't post for 10 years!

I don't think I've ever heard of anyone getting fined for not wearing a reflector in Finland. Nor for just being drunk, you actually have to do something to annoy people for cops to get interested. Like talking to people without asking first.

# ¿ Mar 21, 2016 18:46

lollontee: Nov 4, 2014; Can't post for 10 years!

Yeah the thing about laws and northerners is that our cops aren't complete dickheads, so even if you broke some petty law they ain't gonna fine you unless you give them a reason by being rude. This might be hard to comprehend if you happen to live in a society where the police is the enemy of the public.

# ¿ Mar 21, 2016 18:56

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kalstrams posted:

Full time, entry level factory job.

The rent on my decrepid 20m^2 in Helsinki is 750 euros per month. The vent hood isn't connected and I can't get cold water. The door is crooked.

# ¿ Mar 23, 2016 10:33

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Fatal Error posted:

love my city

Polish nazis are walking and barely talking conscious dissonance

# ¿ Mar 23, 2016 17:31

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Oracle posted:

Where the hell was that taken? Cuz Soviet Russia made a concerted effort to exterminate Siberian Huskies as anti-proletariat and to break the will of the Chukchi people (since they were really good at evading said Soviets by going 'sure ok whatever you say' and then disappearing into the trackless wastes with their sled dogs).

Huh, really? Wiki says nothing about it

# ¿ Mar 24, 2016 16:39

lollontee: Nov 4, 2014; Can't post for 10 years!

It's really lame when papal authority falls so low you can't even excommunicate or call crusades

# ¿ Mar 25, 2016 23:13

lollontee: Nov 4, 2014; Can't post for 10 years!

I wonder how many bishops would send thier taxes to him

# ¿ Mar 25, 2016 23:40

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drilldo squirt posted:

What's democracy like in the czech republic? I can't see bussing in foreigners to beat up citizen protesting with police aid to suck up to china being good for a reelection campaign.

You overestimate how much eastern europeans care about that sort of thing.

# ¿ Mar 29, 2016 16:30

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Mr. Nemo posted:

Is this the best place to have general abortion debate?

It is the best place for that. I don't think babies have minds ergo it's ok if they're tunred into dog food. Discuss

# ¿ Apr 3, 2016 09:25

lollontee: Nov 4, 2014; Can't post for 10 years!

We're all in it together.

# ¿ Apr 3, 2016 20:13

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anilEhilated posted:

The question is whether it's going to have any consequences.

It won't.

# ¿ Apr 3, 2016 21:25

lollontee: Nov 4, 2014; Can't post for 10 years!

Any Polish names come up in the Panama cache?

# ¿ Apr 5, 2016 15:47

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blowfish posted:

From a western "sovereign states are inviolable unless the violator is America and the violee is a desert shithole" perspective that's not rational.

That, or Haiti.

# ¿ Apr 13, 2016 18:47

lollontee: Nov 4, 2014; Can't post for 10 years!

stay safe democracy ghost

# ¿ Apr 15, 2016 02:08

lollontee: Nov 4, 2014; Can't post for 10 years!

Mods, please ban and probate the troll account. Thank you.

# ¿ May 4, 2016 09:23

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Palpek posted:

Here's a nice one - 2 days ago Putin was making an official inspection of the newest Russian military equipment when this happened (the thing the soldier throws into the car is the door handle):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YEcRbT1Dq0

kalstrams posted:

That's General Shevchenko, chief of ground vehicle department at their MoD.

This is the funniest thing I've ever seen

# ¿ May 14, 2016 17:17

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A Pale Horse posted:

He may be next on the list.

Whoah, this is the first time I'm hearing of this. That looks like purge levels of murder going on. Which is a bit odd.

# ¿ May 14, 2016 19:58

lollontee: Nov 4, 2014; Can't post for 10 years!

Aww, they don't want to talk to you anymore...

# ¿ May 17, 2016 18:16

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steinrokkan posted:

Here we go again

I thought we were already there. CIA did ukraine

# ¿ Jun 21, 2016 21:10

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Gaj posted:

I just had a friend come back from teaching in Brazil and the domestic opinions there are frighteningly similar with regards to Oliver Stone and the other skeptics.

He said that in Brazil some think that Zika is just a Western Propaganda Campaign aimed at destroying Brazil's economy, by reducing tourism. The Dilma coup is backed by the CIA to install Capitalists. The Olympics are a Jewish-Western banking scheme to launder money nationally.

Every single word could be exchanged for Ukraine and the Maiden Revolution and it would seem just as legitimate. I mean of course the U.S destabilized Brazil to ensure American economic hegemony. Of course the U.S is the singular source of all Russian opposition in Europe and none of it is local.

The funny part is that all those statements are true.

# ¿ Jun 22, 2016 08:04

lollontee: Nov 4, 2014; Can't post for 10 years!

Why did Netherlands vote no to the Ukraine association treaty again?

# ¿ Jul 2, 2016 00:11

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Ardennes posted:

There was a referendum in the Netherlands that deep-sixed it.

Oh right, now I remember. Man, gently caress democracy.

# ¿ Jul 2, 2016 00:19

lollontee: Nov 4, 2014; Can't post for 10 years!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT4sK36cU3Y

# ¿ Aug 22, 2016 13:33

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Pierogi posted:

That''s a repost from the other page, but still quality.

I've been following Shirvan for some time and he churns out top work especially explaining geopolitics of the middle east and various proxy wars therein.

Of course he's a CIA shill according to yt comments, so par for the course in our thread.

He's really good and I won't apologize for reposting.

# ¿ Aug 22, 2016 14:49

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ocrumsprug posted:

Is it a large problem, people thinking that the Polish death camps in German-occupied Poland were actually run by Poland as opposed to just being in Poland?

Well, quite a number of Poles participated in atrocities, even if the camps themselves were run by the SS so I guess that's a bit of a problem

# ¿ Aug 25, 2016 01:52

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Tevery Best posted:

Not in the camps, though. The Poles were murdered in the death camps just like the Jews were. In fact, Auschwitz took in Poles before it started taking in Jews (although it had not become a full-fledged extermination camp until Birkenau was added).

That's what I said? Anyway, understandably this is a bit of a touchy subject, but is Polish acquiescence (or the complicity of some groups of individuals) to the Holocaust addressed in Polish history classes in any way?

# ¿ Aug 25, 2016 10:24

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cinci zoo sniper posted:

It's a reference to untimely accidents and supernatural suicides happening to Russia's more vocal opponents.

Anyone got an up to date list of the casualties?

# ¿ Aug 28, 2016 22:20

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Truga posted:

In Slovenia, a proposal for some changes in the communications law appeared. Here, since the udba.net debacle (like 15 years ago someone posted the slovenian udba/sdv (successor of udba) archives nicely sorted by last name on the internet, I can post more if people are interested), any and all blocking of web sites must strictly go through the court. Makes sense, in any real country, right? Well, no, because obviously, we aren't thinking of the children enough.

The excuse is, as always when talking about blocking something on the internet, child porn. The new law proposes removing the "court order only" part of blocking sites, when said sites are on a list of known child abuse hosting sites. Said list is, of course, classified.

Now, there's several problems with this idea. The purported reason is "getting a court order takes too much time", which might look legit at first glance (courts are notoriously slow here), but in these cases, things can move very fast so no, not really. Second thing is, while the police can shut down domestic hosters in a matter of minutes, foreign ones are supposedly harder/impossible to shut down. This, again, quickly shows up as false, as most recent reports had the offending site taken down in <30 minutes. The longest time it took in recent years was some hosting site in the middle of nowhere, India, which took a whole 3 hours (lmao, oh no) before it got shut down by the authorities there, after being reported by our police.

However, these response times are apparently just not good enough. No, police needs instant control over blocking sites (rather than reporting them to the correct authorities and have it actually dealt with), because apparently proxies don't exist anymore in 2016. Blocking sites on a national level, without a court order, on the basis of some super secret list only a few people have access to. Hmm, what could possibly go wrong.

And now that I got the "just stupid and obviously lazy" part out of the way, here's the real kicker. While the police is obviously working really hard to remove all possible offending material off the internet (though nobody knows how the current addendum helps that), there's also a proposed addendum to the police obligations and powers law.

The police is going to create and maintain an archive of all photo, audio, video, and other content containing sexual abuse of minors, all the metadata, all the data about the criminal and the victim. Of course all in the name of protecting victims. And then keep that data, for 60 years after it is discovered the person was a minor in the content. Just in case, so the victim doesn't forget about the tragedy, and instead knows in the back of their mind, there's this archive of poo poo, nicely tucked away in some govt filing warehouse. It'd be a real shame if they moved on with their life after all.

Obviously, this wouldn't be free either, there would have to be people monitoring this archive, and that's obviously what a southern european country heavily in debt should be spending cash on, infrastructure and people that watch over an archive of child pornography. The logic is just loving Meanwhile, actual police officer wages are literally minimal allowable wage, because we gotta save a couple cents here and there in these hard times of crushing debt right?

i gotta run way form this shitshow country jfc

You'll be happy to find out that these censor lists without any judicial oversight are more or ubiquitous across Europe already. Your country are just laggards as per usual.

# ¿ Sep 12, 2016 19:30

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Darth Walrus posted:

A little reminder:

Ah,

# ¿ Sep 15, 2016 19:38

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# ¿ May 15, 2024 00:01

lollontee: Nov 4, 2014; Can't post for 10 years!

That does fit the Russian MO. They like to test their neighbours reactions to provocations. Doubtless the blatancy was intentional.

# ¿ Sep 21, 2016 15:29

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