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redscare
Aug 14, 2003

Kiejzar posted:

In the second Chechen war Russians had tanks returning to base after 8 ATGM hits.

You sure those weren't RPG hits? Because that's a totally different game than ATGMs and the Chechens wouldn't have had much of anything other than RPGs in the 2nd war.

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redscare
Aug 14, 2003

Friendly Humour posted:

But there isn't. Despite Russia's dick-waving and general asshattery in Ukraine and the rest, the military threat that Russia poses to EU is negligible. They aren't going to attack and everybody knows this, so there is little pressure to turn our national armies into a federate one. Nevermind the question of how on Earth you that would even be practically possible, or politically feasible.

This is purely because of NATO (read: US protection) and has nothing whatsoever to do with the EU's military might or Putin's reluctance to start poo poo.

redscare
Aug 14, 2003

kalstrams posted:

Restricting Skype while allowing Internet Explorer? Restricting ICQ while allowing Mail.ru Group?

Peak bureaucracy, I guess. Passing poo poo for the sake of it.

I don't think it's just peak bureaucracy.

Look at where Bryansk Oblast is.

As for what's still allowed, Yandex and Mail.Ru are monitored thoroughly and everyone knows it; Chrome and Safari probably have better security than IE.

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redscare
Aug 14, 2003

HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:

So Bellingcat is accurate when it's in Russia's favor? Of course it doesn't do any good to point out the contradiction.

After sentencing her to 22 years in prison they worked out a prisoner exchange deal with Ukraine it seems. I imagine that was part of the plan all along, with the announcement she would be returned to Ukraine coming hours after her sentencing.

The Savchenko farce has served effectively as a tool for the politically obtuse liberal opposition to further discredit itself in the eyes of most Russians. A quiet exchange after the kangaroo trial is over is the most logical outcome because there's no upside to keeping her locked up and no downside to performing the exchange.

redscare
Aug 14, 2003

OddObserver posted:

Yeah, interior ministry interior troops and a bunch of other stuff. It's actually pretty similar to how Ukrainian National Guard was formed.

They're all but copying Ukraine and there is not a big enough :ironicat: to illustrate it

redscare
Aug 14, 2003
Edit: double post

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redscare
Aug 14, 2003

steinrokkan posted:

I think the Polish army is large and well-equipped enough to give the Russians a pause and to make them consider sabotage over direct invasion, if you live in the Tom Clancy world of the Red Menace crossing the borders any day now.

The Poles have actually built up a decent army. On paper, it could beat the comically underfunded Bundeswehr and take Berlin. Russia would get a proper bloody nose if it tried anything.

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