UKMT Long March 2016 - Beware the Iain Duncan Smith of March (am I doing this right?)

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TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

I'm surprised The Danish Girl only got one gong. The Academy normally loves their tragedy porn.

# ¿ Mar 1, 2016 11:49

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# ¿ May 22, 2024 11:30

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Kegluneq posted:

You'd have been complaining even more if Eddie Redmayne had won Best Actor though.

Well, yeah. Tangerine was superior in every way and got totally snubbed. :colbert:

Relevant video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjDufjtIr1M

# ¿ Mar 1, 2016 11:56

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

StoneOfShame posted:

Tangerine was good but it wasn't that good, it was better than The Danish Girl but that was a massive piece of poo poo. The best film of last year was either The Look of Silence or Inside Out, the former didn't even win documentary which is absurd.

And ordinarily, Tangerine would be Oscar bait in itself. I mean, a semi-biographical film about trans sex workers of colour? Academy would fall over themselves to give it nominations.

# ¿ Mar 1, 2016 17:11

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Guavanaut posted:

Is the pink elephant about star wars that it is really bad?

Sadly, very few people criticised TFA without resorting to the phrase "little white cuckball". :v:

# ¿ Mar 1, 2016 20:43

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

I've found probably the most ridiculous statement to ever be put into the public records of Parliament.

# ¿ Mar 2, 2016 15:12

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Guavanaut posted:

What's the context of this?

The Home Affairs Select Committee is conducting an inquiry into prostitution with the aim of criminalising the purchase of sex. This is from one of the written evidence submissions.

# ¿ Mar 2, 2016 15:15

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Unison's submission is rather ridiculous too. It says that "prostitution is a form of commercial sexual exploitation, not work".

I mean, imagine being a trade union that actively wants to gently caress over workers' rights instead of trying to expand them.

# ¿ Mar 2, 2016 15:37

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Health is a physiological need, not a form of work, therefore we will withdraw from representing NHS junior doctors.

*Unison disappears in a puff of logic, Jeremy Hunt lets out an evil hahkle*

# ¿ Mar 2, 2016 15:45

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

At least they're not going fully pathetic and nominating something on the farm for Tree of the Year. :v:

# ¿ Mar 2, 2016 22:12

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

There is the Tilbury ferry, though.

# ¿ Mar 2, 2016 22:31

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

I imagine fear of concussions is why the WWE don't want to see the Curb Stomp or the Styles Clash being used. Christ, those moves are hard on the head even if done properly.

Pesmerga posted:

That's an expression I'd never heard, and decided to look it up. Holy poo poo that's nasty.

Ric Flair bladed so much that he bleeds these days just from frowning.

# ¿ Mar 3, 2016 12:47

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Manic_Misanthrope posted:

The Curb Stomp is pretty safe actually, at least the Rollins version. Unless you're crazy, you take it like a front break fall where the impact is spread out across your arms instead, but it's easilly imitable and kids on the playground don't know how to take it safely. So it got canned.

Speaking of which, didn't every school have an urban legend that some kid at the next school over had to go to hospital after being given the Walls of Jericho?

# ¿ Mar 3, 2016 12:59

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

According to friends in GPNI and APNI, the DUP have found a surefire vote-winner: reintroducing the death penalty.

:psyboom:

# ¿ Mar 3, 2016 19:30

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Remember the 5p plastic bag charge, one of the few positive legacies of the coalition government?

Nick Clegg announced it on a dogging site.

# ¿ Mar 4, 2016 13:41

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Guavanaut posted:

What's wrong with that?

Other than that seeing Clegg might put them off.

Nothing. It's just hilarious.

# ¿ Mar 4, 2016 13:50

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Guavanaut posted:

Link? What's her rationale that criminalization has ever made an industry safer?

Via the Graun

Jeremy Corbyn: 'I favour decriminalising the sex industry' posted:

Views on sex trade believed to be Labour leader�s personal opinions rather than party policy.

Jeremy Corbyn has said he is in favour of decriminalising prostitution. The Labour leader made his position clear during a session with students at Goldsmiths University as he went on the campaign trail for May�s election.

Corbyn is thought to have had a longstanding view in favour of decriminalising sex work but this appears to be the first time he has confirmed his position in public since becoming Labour leader.

Asked for his opinion on whether sex work should be decriminalised, he said: �I am favour of decriminalising the sex industry. I don�t want people to be criminalised. I want to be [in] a society where we don�t automatically criminalise people. Let�s do things a bit differently and in a bit more civilised way.�

A spokesman for Corbyn would not elaborate on his views. But it is understood they are personal opinions rather than party policy.

The subject of the law around prostitution is controversial, with divisions within political parties, charities and the women�s movement about whether tougher or more relaxed legislation is the best way of protecting sex workers.

Corbyn�s position appears to chime with that of Amnesty International, which last year provoked a mixed reaction when it called for �full decriminalisation of all aspects of consensual sex work�.

In contrast, the mood on sex work legislation in the EU appears to be moving in a different direction, after the European parliament in 2014 passed a non-binding resolution in favour of criminalising the purchase of sex, putting pressure on member states to re-evaluate their policies.

This legal framework known as the Nordic model, because of its adoption in Sweden, is largely opposed by sex trade advocacy groups because they believe it puts workers at greater risk by driving them underground.

In 2014, Northern Ireland became the first part of the UK to impose a ban on paying for sex.

Selling sex is not illegal in the rest of the UK, but certain associated activities � soliciting, kerb crawling and running a brothel � are.

A number of MPs in the Labour party are pushing for a similar option that shifts the burden of criminality to the purchaser instead of the seller of sex.

Fiona MacTaggart, a senior MP, tried to introduce an amendment criminalising the purchase of sexual services in the modern slavery bill of 2014. However, the Labour party has stopped short of endorsing it overall, with then shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper instead proposing a �review of the links between prostitution and human trafficking and sexual exploitation�.

Amid calls for the law to be updated, the House of Commons home affairs committee is examining sex work legislation, including the idea of the Nordic model.

In evidence to the committee, the Home Office says it is yet to be convinced of the case but will watch carefully how the new system works in Northern Ireland. �We have not seen unequivocal evidence that any one approach is more effective at tackling harm and exploitation, which remains our priority,� it said.

�Recent developments in Northern Ireland, where in July 2015 legislation was commenced that criminalises all purchasing of sex whilst decriminalising all selling, provides an opportunity to observe the implementation and impact of such a change.�

Also, reminder that one of the UK's largest trade unions literally said this:

# ¿ Mar 4, 2016 15:04

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Guavanaut posted:

I agree. Sex work is a form of commercial sexual exploitation as long as [x] work is a form of commercial [x] exploitation.

Let's work to remove the exploitation bit.

You're more likely to get Socialism 101 out of Pissflaps than you are Dave Prentis, mind you.

# ¿ Mar 4, 2016 15:13

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Jose posted:

Are there any estimates how much money the government would make through taxes if prostitution was legal?

Well, sex workers already pay tax on their earnings, so�

# ¿ Mar 4, 2016 15:16

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Gort posted:

Do they? As much as all the people paid cash-in-hand for other work (EG: Any self-employed carpenter, plumber, mechanic etc), you mean?

Pretty much.

# ¿ Mar 4, 2016 16:00

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

dispatch_async posted:

http://www.theguardian.com/society/commentisfree/2016/mar/04/jeremy-corbyn-sex-trade-left-women-exploitation

At least she isn't threatening to shoot Corbyn for standing up for sex worker rights.

# ¿ Mar 4, 2016 18:44

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Well, her friend doesn't have any shotguns, because she was asking on Twitter where said friend could find them.

# ¿ Mar 4, 2016 18:45

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

As much as I hate the whole "Harridan Harpyperson worked for pedophiles" meme the right-wing love to bring out, I'm still loving the replies to this tweet:

https://twitter.com/HarrietHarman/status/705763905709150209

# ¿ Mar 4, 2016 23:57

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

winegums posted:

This is exactly what I thought Corbyn meant to do. Not to make prostitution legal, but to make solicitation of prostitutes illegal.
That said i've no idea if it's already legal, I'm a good lad.

Prostitution is already legal and solicitation is already illegal.

Corbyn (and McDonnell) are veteran advocates for full decriminalisation of consensual sex work.

# ¿ Mar 5, 2016 00:14

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

There's also this analysis of the law's effect in Sweden, which brings up a salient point that a study funded by the Swedish government with the purpose of reaching a favourable analysis of the law barely managed in its job.

Ann Jordan posted:

It is important to note at the outset that the mandate for the Skarhed Report ensured that the results would not provide any support for abandoning the prostitution law: �One starting point of our work has been that the purchase of sexual services is to remain criminalized� (Skarhed 2010, 4). Consequently, the final report could not contain any evidence on failures; it could only report successes even when evidence is lacking.

When the report was released, Swedish language readers were quick to point out the flaws in the research and to challenge its unsupported claims. At the same time, English language readers only had access to a summary, which contained only positive statements. Reports in the English-language press and websites to this day are almost uniformly positive as a result. Only months later did the government release English translations of the text of the report.

# ¿ Mar 5, 2016 17:25

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

# ¿ Mar 5, 2016 17:30

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Happy International "When's International Men's Day?" Day, comrades.

# ¿ Mar 8, 2016 01:05

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

winegums posted:

Willie Rennie MSP

Leader of the Scottish Liberal Democrats. Like Jenny he's also a local, from Fife. Like John, there's little of interest to say about him.

Predicted soapbox topic of the night: nobody cares.

His soapbox will probably be "be nice to Tim uguu~".

Seriously, that was his speech a Autumn Conference in favour of setting up another policy working group on Trident. I imagine he's going to give a similar speech on all-women shortlists at Conference this weekend.

# ¿ Mar 10, 2016 19:36

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

big scary monsters posted:

Pissflaps for Lib Dem leader.

I wouldn't vote for him. He's not popular.

# ¿ Mar 10, 2016 22:12

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Glokta posted:

Who would you vote for?

Somebody who could win a leadership election.

# ¿ Mar 10, 2016 22:31

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Lord of the Llamas posted:

Errrr

Pissflaps isn't popular and we need someone who is popular.

# ¿ Mar 10, 2016 22:40

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

https://twitter.com/missmillicent/status/708628959647371264

# ¿ Mar 12, 2016 17:07

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

thespaceinvader posted:

I wonder if they're similarly worried about tobacco and alcohol...

I think the new policy is still more restrictive on cannabis than alcohol and tobacco: while it would be legal to buy or sell, import into the country would be restricted and you wouldn't be able to get pre-rolled joints at a shop.

Only one "420 blaze it" pun in the debate, though.

# ¿ Mar 12, 2016 20:10

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Guavanaut posted:

What would the policy say about growing it?

Legal, with restrictions that you don't grow too much.

The policy also says people should be able to form small social clubs to pool their pot farm together.

# ¿ Mar 12, 2016 20:39

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

What the gently caress is up with the state of that loving Rod Liddle article in the Times.

# ¿ Mar 13, 2016 18:22

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Labour to abstain on the snooper's charter vote tomorrow.

# ¿ Mar 14, 2016 09:10

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Oberleutnant posted:

Realtalk though the last week has been a disappointing one in terms of Labour's willingness to actively challenge tory policy and narratives. I shouldn't be surprised, but here we are.

Three or four years, surely?

I'm actually really disappointed. I thought the last time Burnham went all securocrat over this bill, Corbyn would have boxed his ears. Sadly not. :smith:

# ¿ Mar 14, 2016 09:39

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

hit button posted:

What's particularly wrong with the Investigatory Powers Bill in concept? That's a genuine question, I'm not very familiar with it.

The introduction of judicial oversight for interception warrants sounds like a good thing. Saying that internet connection records shouldn't be available to police / intelligence agencies under any circumstances seems a pretty arguable point.

The "judicial oversight" isn't really a warrant. It's basically the Home Secretary asking a friendly unqualified magistrate to give her the right to spy on anyone she sees fit, with legal powers even the US don't give to its intelligence agencies.

# ¿ Mar 14, 2016 11:29

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

SNP are apparently going to abstain on the snoopers charter too.

# ¿ Mar 15, 2016 18:36

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Always relevant explanation of metadata from the EFF:

They know you rang a phone sex service at 2:24 am and spoke for 18 minutes. But they don't know what you talked about.
They know you called the suicide prevention hotline from the Golden Gate Bridge. But the topic of the call remains a secret.
They know you spoke with an HIV testing service, then your doctor, then your health insurance company in the same hour. But they don't know what was discussed.
They know you received a call from the local NRA office while it was having a campaign against gun legislation, and then called your senators and congressional representatives immediately after. But the content of those calls remains safe from government intrusion.
They know you called a gynecologist, spoke for a half hour, and then called the local Planned Parenthood's number later that day. But nobody knows what you spoke about.

# ¿ Mar 15, 2016 19:20

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# ¿ May 22, 2024 11:30

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Snooper's charter passes 281-15.

Fucks sake.

# ¿ Mar 15, 2016 20:45

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