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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006
If you want to read about computer-assisted socialism check this out from 1993, it's available in its entirety and its even written from first principles so you don't have to be a Marxoteen to understand it. They anticipate a lot of technological development that we see today.

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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006
Wholeheartedly agree. It's ridiculous to hear people ponder the day robots could provide for all reasonable human needs when that's what the Industrial Revolution was.

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006
Also I don't see any reason to think an AI could actually transcend ideology or act selflessly or whatever it is you think an AI could actually accomplish that a person or group of people could not. There's no reason to suppose it would be any easier or more difficult to change the "synthetic nature" than it is to change "human nature."

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006

gohmak posted:

AI will be essential for central economic planning of the future. Corporations are already using advanced computer systems for maximizing efficiencies.

Sure, it would be a useful tool but I don't see what is uniquely socialist about artificial intelligence, or what it does to make socialism a political possibility, or how it would be uniquely useful to socialist planning, etc. The obstacles to socialism, and the challenges that it must overcome, are ultimately political, not technological.

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006

Dead Reckoning posted:

The thing is, a central economy where all resources are allocated by the state requires either: A) economic growth to always exceed population growth; B) a willingness of all participants to accept a lower standard of living if A) doesn't come true (down to, say, Mumbai Slum Dweller levels); or C) population control through either direct or indirect methods.


This is rather absurd because it's true of all economies, whether or not they are centrally planned. It's a tautology.

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