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Your Dunkle Sans posted:On that note, early tribal societies prior to the invention of agriculture and stored grain were quite adept at equitable distribution of resources. Some people have called this primitive communism, and whether or not the term is accurate it still shows that human society is capable of distributing resources efficiently and minimizing the power of hierarchy even in those groups with a chief figurehead. The problem now is how to reconcile that with the ideology, culture, and economics of capitalism or to overcome capitalism and progress to a more humane form of distribution of resources. Early tribal societies were groups of only 60 to 150 people where everyone knew everyone and there was no surplus. Inequality arose as soon as surpluses were available that could both grow a human population beyond natural limits and be horarded. It exists in every large society that has existed since the neolithic revolution, thousands of years before capitalism. Even John Zerzan could figure that out. There are few if any lessons socialists can learn from hunter-gatherers. Their ways of life do not scale. Woolie Wool fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Mar 5, 2016 |
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I did, you were completely unable to explain how you could make perfect strangers in mass society behave like a tribe of 90 people who grew up together and are mostly related.
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Mar 5, 2016 23:58
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A market economy requires an even greater amount of growth because it must support a class of parasites who extract money from workers who use their property, often a very large proportion of the total value of production. A capitalist economy will collapse if it does not grow, even though the needs of the planet demand that we drastically shrink our economies.
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Mar 9, 2016 22:49
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:This is rather absurd because it's true of all economies, whether or not they are centrally planned. It's a tautology. Actually it's not because people who want to suck as much money as possible out of the economy constantly are going to be much worse at managing long-term economic contraction than people trying to fairly allocate what's available.
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Mar 10, 2016 16:15
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They're imagining it happen to other people and not themselves, because that's how humans work.
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