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Dr.Zeppelin posted:can someone explain why a bunch of posters said that everyone reaffirming the pledge "blew a hole" in the GOP or whatever they were saying It undermines their campaigns. You simply can't be out there saying "he can't be president, he's a con man and liar and stands for nothing" and then say "I'll support him for president if I lose." It exposes you as being full of poo poo and having no integrity. We all suspect that's the case but you can't just out and spell it out like that. Sure, the more prudent party move is that you'll eventually coalesce around the nominee. But if that's the case you have to hold back on what you're attacking him with so you're not such a hypocrite full of poo poo when you do it. And if you do go all scorched earth then you can't just say "eh, I'll endorse him anyway" without it triggering a lot of people's bs detectors. I mean, it's all a lot of hand wringing because we know it's probably futile fighting Trump at this stage. But if you're going to do it, then do it right.
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Hannity just said he was texting late last night with Rubio about Trump. That mental image just made me laugh.
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Blasmeister posted:The truly chaotic thing about the situation was Fox choosing to end on that question when the whole rest of the debate up to that point seemed like a hit had been put on Trump. They had to know bringing up the pledge could only help him, right? I mean, I think that question is kind of the natural closing one for this. If Trump is all these things they say then will you hold firm and reject him as the nominee? Whatever Fox News' intentions were that question sort of is the heart of the #NeverTrump thing. If you can't answer "no" now then you should just get out of the way and stop wasting everyone's time and giving the Democrats more ammo.
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Montasque posted:Hannity is really tying Rubio/Romney together here. Hannity is a boot licking piece of poo poo but he's not wrong on the Rubio/Romney Duke/KKK thing. Stop with the "disavow" poo poo. There's a deeper question that Trump should be asked about all the hate groups and leaders that are coming out for him and how he feels about them. He should be asked about the white nationalist tweets and Farakhan and the Neo Nazi shoving around a protester at his rallies. Try and get Trump to make a clear "they're disgusting" statement. But stop trying to squeeze blood from the David Duke gaffe. Either dig deeper or let that poo poo go. But no one in the Republican Party has ever been capable of digging deeper with Trump. No one even digs below the surface on the Trump U thing. I've seen liberal media bring up more dirt on that in one segment a dozen times than I've heard from the #NeverTrump people all week.
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Mar 4, 2016 07:27
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Neeksy posted:They can't attack him on that, those groups are a major part of their coalition. Oh, I know. But again, it goes back to "if you're going to do it, do it right." If they aren't willing to follow through on this line of attack then they need to let it go. Repeating the same Duke gaffe over and over just feeds Trump and Hannity's "I said I disavowed it a dozen times, you're just being unfair" narrative. It's just incompetent gameplay. You can't do this poo poo half assed. You're going to pull on the strings of Trump's cons? Going to dig into the racist element of his base? Then you better be ready to come correct or don't bother at all.
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