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Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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The DL-C Incident

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Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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I have a feeling something's gonna smell in a bit.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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*Shoots a guy at point blank range*

I can't believe he's dead...

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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SirSamVimes posted:

Because Larry is the single worst character in the series.

All of the candidates for worst character in the series don't pop up til the second game.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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But every time I do it makes me laugh.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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Yeah, Maya is pretty explicitly taking the form of Mia. It's not really a spoiler to say.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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THE REAL ACE ATTORNEY BEGINS HERE

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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MightyPretenders posted:

...No, I'm pretty sure Gumshoe does not have a metal detector.

We found Gourdy with it.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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Trivia: Rise From The Ashes is the only case in the main series that does not have the idiosyncratic use of "Turnabout" in its name. This is not true in the Japanese version, where it is called Yomigaeru Gyakuten, or "Turnabout Revival," which is the subtitle of the Japanese DS release.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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We're getting a bit ahead of ourselves here. The case hasn't even started yet.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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AlphaKretin posted:

Are you entirely sure you don't mean Gumshoe, before Mia? :raise:

Nope! We don't! Keep in mind that they're the prototypes in role only, not character. I believe the Maya prototype was supposed to be a robot.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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Additionally, the initial concept of the game involved a private investigator who got caught up in a murder and ended up having to defend himself in court, but it was eventually shifted to a lawyer story because the court stuff was too fun.

Working names for the game included:

Surviban
Attorney Brothers Three
Bingo-Bengo
Boogie-Woogie Innocence
Let's Raise Hamsters (one guy was really fighting for the game to be about hamsters)

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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Intellectually attracted. Nothing wrong here, just gals being senpais.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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In case you're wondering, yes, Ema and Lana were explicitly designed to parallel Maya and Mia.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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To be fair I am skimming the updates because I have played this game about....four or five times?

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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Yes, she would. Even if she confesses to the crime before the trial, she still needs to go through due process, and there, she can make a formal guilty plea.

To make it simple, confession =/= guilty plea

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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15 years ago today, Gyakuten Saiban was unleashed upon Japanese Game Boys everywhere.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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Yelin Payne: Ace Attorney

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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Who the gently caress brings their kid to a murder trial?

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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Mraagvpeine posted:

This is an odd question, but is it better to play this case between games 1 & 2 or games 3 & 4? I understand if this question should be held off till after game 3, but I fear I'll forget by then.

Just play it after 1-4. It's fine. It's true that there are a couple references to the other games, but it's all either surface level stuff or jokes that stand on their own.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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Evidence law only ever comes up in like three cases in the entire series.

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Jan 20, 2011


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Hobgoblin2099 posted:

I could have sworn this was the only case where it was relevant. Maybe I'm forgetting the others.

I'm pretty sure it comes up in the fourth game, but I'm not going to talk about it any further.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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Also this game is rated T, you weirdo.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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God gently caress, how did I never think that in the original, he's a Japanese man desperately trying to be a cowboy.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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Edgeworth has been prosecuting for a while. SL-9 is not particularly special to Edgeworth, but it's quite a deal and we'll learn all about it.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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E: The time is not right for that particular factoid, I think.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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Mors Rattus posted:

: What the hell was that wriggling piece of plywood!?

There's the stuff.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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Jake Marshall is the kind of person who unironically uses the word "Vittles"

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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It hasn't happened before, but it's not the last time it happens in the series. The witness stand is basically the go-to place for anyone who's not the defense, prosecution, or judge to deliver lines.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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Stephen9001 posted:

Presumably, they have 2 different, but identical stands for the defendant and the witness. With one of those stand being invisible in the "can see most of the court" (the one from behind the stand) picture. Unless anyone else has any other theories?

They allude to one, but it's never really shown. Various adaptations have included a place for the defendant, though.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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Mors Rattus posted:

: Joe Darke was 42 at the time of the crime. He was just your run-of-the-mill businessman.
: A businessman? What made him take to serial killing?
: One day on his way home from work, he hit someone with his car.
: With his car?
: So... it was an accident?
: An accident, yes. But it transformed him into an animal!
: An animal...





: A kid walked by just then, so he killed him too. Then, when he was burying the bodies, a jogger came upon the scene and was killed as well! Finally he turned himself in.

I've always kinda had a problem with this. They build up Joe Darke as this evil, dark serial killer, but then when they talk about him, it sounds like he just had one bad day and got caught in a domino effect of taking out witnesses in a spree. I understand, though. Making him like a real serial killer would probably have skewn the game too dark for their targeted rating.

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Jan 20, 2011


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C. Everett Koop posted:

It'd be even better if they were all accidents as well, or just manslaughter. Hit a jaywalker which kills him, lady who sees the accident has a heart attack and dies, kid skateboarding on by tries to avoid the lady and falls/breaks his neck, jogger falls into the open grave, etc...

Mr. Bean finally gets the Hannibal treatment.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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It's never stated what case the screwdriver is from, but people have made the assumption that it's the screwdriver we found in April's hotel room all the way back in case 2.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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https://twitter.com/aceattorneygame/status/834481092803432448

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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This is not the last time Ace Attorney asks the player to make an extra step in reasoning than most people would.

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Jan 20, 2011


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It depends on if Dee meant to hurt Jack or merely get him out of the way. Either way, she could probably make a case for self-defense. But then there's the mafia stuff, innit? And even if she's declared not guilty, the fallout basically means her career is over.

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Jan 20, 2011


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Glazius posted:

I would love to know what was going through Neil Marshall's head at the time.

"I had him! I almost had him! gently caress YOU IN PARTICULAR, RANDOM SIX-YEAR OLD!"

What in tarnation

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


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I always read "that place" as the pool, because Gant really wants to go swimming as per his introduction.

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Jan 20, 2011


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The skeleton is that he wears a speedo.

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