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Omobono posted:
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# ¿ Mar 17, 2016 01:03 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 01:27 |
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If it's in the Court Record, it's good enough for the kindly ol' Judge.
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# ¿ Mar 26, 2016 19:32 |
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Aerdan posted:I imagine it's more that he's so used to winning every case he's forgotten how to put effort into it. Or rather, he's been putting the wrong sort of effort into it. See him telling the Bellboy to not submit certain things as testimony. Instead of gathering evidence and basing his prosecution around that like Phoenix does.
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# ¿ Apr 11, 2016 08:46 |
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Dragonwagon posted:As evidenced by the two games with him as the protagonist. But Edgeworth is my favorite character in the series and it's certainly not for his performance here.
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# ¿ Apr 11, 2016 22:27 |
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:But, on the other hand, we did get Redd White at his finest. Somehow, he manages to sound Texan in his random english. This is both weird and somehow fitting for him
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# ¿ Apr 16, 2016 23:33 |
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Nidoking posted:Maybe she mentioned him not because she thought he would help, but so that whoever did (she probably knew it would be Phoenix) would learn something useful by talking to him. Alternatively, Mia is only acting on really, really old information. A sort of 'if you're in any trouble and I can't help you for whatever reason, here's someone I trust.'
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2016 01:51 |
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I don't see no ghost. Look again. When Mors posts the next update.
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2016 19:04 |
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legoman727 posted:Meet the Security Lady. She's.. ho boy. We'll get into her only redeeming feature later on in the case, but for my money she's probably one of the worst characters in the entire series. The Steel Samurai is cool though. IIRC she has some good scenes with her but those are in later games. At least I remember having a reaction to her after this... Bugger me if I can remember what that reaction was though. This is a pretty neat case too.
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# ¿ May 1, 2016 09:01 |
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Suspicious Cook posted:Is he though? Maya's personality makes a lot more sense if you know about japanese shrine culture. It basically boils down to the fact that she's finally able to experience something akin to a childhood now that she's away from temples and training to be a medium.
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# ¿ May 2, 2016 03:04 |
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Shady Amish Terror posted:Speaking of which, I think the game has already given us a pretty serious clue in the dialogue, but I don't know if I'm remembering correctly. I suppose hunting around some more will show whether that's right. There's been a couple clues in the dialogue but the main one I remember is also one that they take a bit getting around to, which annoyed me to no end. It'll become a lot clearer when we see that photo evidence Gumshoe has.
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# ¿ May 5, 2016 00:31 |
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Funky Valentine posted:Edgeworth's life basically goes all downhill from here. To chime in on this, Edgeworth's life basically goes downhill from when Phoenix beat him in the last case. Oldbag is just the slick teflon on his downward slope.
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# ¿ May 12, 2016 23:45 |
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Mzbundifund posted:Kind of a plot hole that we have to hear about these people here, when Mr. Powers could have told us about them any time. It was also pointed out in the actual case, both Pheonix and Edgeworth didn't think to mention/ask about the Director and even Oldbag found it unusual. They're Attorneys, not actors and there's a whole set of assumptions that can and will glossed over.
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# ¿ May 18, 2016 21:56 |
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Agreed on the theories, it's helping bring back my memories of the cases so far.
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# ¿ Jun 6, 2016 02:09 |
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Also the recipe and how it's handled is more of a marketing ploy than an actual thing of worth nowadays.
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2016 01:26 |
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Omobono posted:Except it's not the way things are done in Japanifornia. The game isn't done with Edgeworth's arc yet but this is a continuation of the Redd White case for him. In Redd White, he was completely convinced that Pheonix was guilty, just the same as all the others he's prosecuted... And then Pheonix proved him wrong by having Redd White be guilty, who Edgeworth was protecting at the time... Completely at odds with his stated goal of 'convicting the guilty.' Here, he's kept up pursuing the guilty but he's not single-mindedly ruthless about it. Now that the evidence has come out he's cottoned on that Vasquez is a bit too suspicious so he's helping out. So yeah, while that's not the way things are done in Japanifornia, Edgeworth has started to figure out that the way things are done is kinda BS (a statement which is the subtle backbone of the entire series.)
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2016 23:52 |
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:The best way is to use a wooden mallet, then burn the mallet, removing the crucial piece of evidence Phoenix needs in day 1 during the 2nd testimony. Don't forget to dispose of the ashes by dumping them in the next ocean over, your expendable murder suit the same way, make sure you were careful and thorough not to leave anything behind and get ahold of the script so you can write out all of the narrative causality leading to you being convicted. Oh yeah and make sure there are no witnesses or cameras of any sort. ... Sounds way easier not to commit it.
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# ¿ Jul 4, 2016 23:22 |
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There was that one fable with Rasputin though. Uh, I don't think that's a particularly good case to base it off of though.
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2016 01:43 |
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Huge coats are huge and make anyone's head look tiny.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2016 02:15 |
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Three shots from the pistol, two heard, one accounted for. That's enough of a foundation to fight back from, but Von Karma's not going to make it easy thanks to his abusing the 'Almighty Prosecutor' power that Japanifornia gives them. Don't you run roughshod over the judge you Draculawyer
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2016 02:21 |
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I was in AA3.5 for the crimes of arson, murder and jaywalking. That road had it coming I tell you! I had follow the chicken across it! It was in my way!
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2016 20:08 |
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Ah yes, Von Karma. He knows there's weaknesses in his witness' testimony but rather than even attempt to play along with proper procedure he attempts to bulldoze through everything to get his verdict. Edgeworth might have been described as ruthless but he's nothing compared to Von Karma (as he warned.) It's great
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# ¿ Jul 23, 2016 22:56 |
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Elric posted:It sure would be nice to have a witness who does not commit blatant perjury once. Geizt posted:Probably because she's literally the only witness we have, and it's obvious that she's slipping up and saying things that Von Karma doesn't want her saying.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2016 20:01 |
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Don't forget to add in Von Karma yelling at you to stop talking to the witness despite it being your job after every panel. That's part of the reason this case is so slow at least.
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2016 05:40 |
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I replayed the original trilogy recently, and I was absolutely stumped on what to do when I got to Day 1 of the trial, because I wanted to bring up the number of gunshots and the other pictures, but no, we have to discredit Lotta as some kind of Gourdy hunter first. One one hand it makes sense to discredit her in this way because Gourdy probably has something to do with this case, in addition to picking apart Von Karma's carefully constructed pile of lies. On the other hand the main reason this is happening is for character development rather than actually solving the case and getting Edgeworth a not-guilty verdict.
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2016 20:31 |
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Waffleman_ posted:I have a feeling something's gonna smell in a bit. Hopefully it will not just be Larry. Gotta get a Von Karma smoulder on so he can mess up properly.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2016 15:08 |
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LordNagash posted:Because as the game says, he may be easily intimidated and rather dim, but he always makes the right decision in the end. He may also be getting sick of Von Karma pushing him around. He is the Judge after all, stop telling him what to do.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2016 05:34 |
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Especially when he makes a leap or two in his deductions and the player has to piece together how it happened to 'catch up with him.'
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2016 15:32 |
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The prosecution REALLY hates losing. Thus, she became a scapegoat.
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# ¿ Sep 4, 2016 07:21 |
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No one likes the scene leading up to this because of plot fiat, but that same plot fiat is what leads to this scene. Should have watched what you said Von Karma! Also poor Maya, still electrically charged from being tazed. She's a very good conductive medium it seems.
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2016 23:10 |
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HenryEx posted:Remember, the proof needs to be in the Court Record for you to present it. This gets really annoying when I've figured out what happened and have a piece of evidence I think will prove it but the game is like 'woah slow down there son, your a crazy man.' Which turns into showing a different bit of proof which leads to something being added to the court record, which I later show as proof... And then I'm allowed to present my first piece of evidence to solve the case
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# ¿ Sep 14, 2016 23:57 |
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C. Everett Koop posted:Don't be ridiculous. von Karma is only a man, he can't cause an earthquake. Just check out that emote. Put enough on something and eventually the earth had to move.
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# ¿ Sep 18, 2016 07:34 |
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Ema Skye is great Lana less so.
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# ¿ Sep 24, 2016 22:37 |
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Tenebrais posted:So I'm guessing it's that the pointy tip doesn't have any blood on it. That's actually kind of the point of this whole case, being something of a natural fallout once Von Karma got his comeuppance. It sort of shows the tight-knit relationship the Prosecution and Police had fraying at the edges. Bonus: now Edgeworth gets to really shine since he's in a similar position to Phoenix for once.
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# ¿ Oct 12, 2016 19:07 |
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Grizzwold posted:Wait, does evidence law only apply to the prosecution or something? Or is that new and everyone just got fed up with Wright pulling that stunt in pretty much every case? People have mentioned it being written after the fourth game but there's a bit of general continuity within this one: Edgeworth has been playing this pretty much by the book, which we can easily see as a consequence of his own trial (and Von Karma's headbang from grace.) If anything, him bringing up evidence law here is just making that extra blatant so that the player knows that Edgeworth isn't prosecuting to win the case, he's doing it to convict the guilty.
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2016 04:56 |
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Gant's quite the character for sure. Tons of surprises from his appearance, his frequent semi-awkward pauses to his jolly demeanor and frequent use of nicknames for everyone.
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# ¿ Oct 29, 2016 23:18 |
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Zerbin7 posted:That was painful. Edgeworth got reamed there. Lots of subtle stuff going on, too. This game is just as good as I remember. It doesn't help that, as Chief of Police, he can pull rank on Edgeworth rather than the other way around
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# ¿ Nov 5, 2016 21:37 |
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Zerbin7 posted:I agree that this case is one of the better ones, and a real treat later on. That said, Meekins is kinda... blah. And it's 90% because of that freaking bull horn. The rest is him tripping over himself way, way too much to be endearing/tolerable.
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2016 08:28 |
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That would just make him use his bullhorn more. We must do everything we can to stop that.
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2016 23:01 |
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Boy are his arms... Not tired? Good lord Meekins calm the heck down. Strange that Gant would deliver a security tape to Meekins. One that had been mistakenly erased.
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# ¿ Dec 26, 2016 02:57 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 01:27 |
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resurgam40 posted:I don't get the hate either, but then again, I'm just reading, and I don't hear the feedback noise everyone's talking about. That would be proper annoying I imagine. This is the real non-hyperbolic reason everyone hates Meekins. Everything else would be fine in a quirky weird witness but that noise is winceworthy. If you still don't get the hate and have heard this noise, imagine someone getting stuck on this case and pressing him for more info where the feedback noise happens. Again. And again. And again. Buh-weeeeeeeen. Buh-weeeeeeeen.
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# ¿ Dec 26, 2016 23:31 |