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Tim Thomas
Feb 12, 2008
breakdancin the night away
He has another job that may get confirmed that may be higher margin for him, but hasn't confirmed it, so he's slow-playing you to see what happens with the other job.

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Tim Thomas
Feb 12, 2008
breakdancin the night away

Gounads posted:

Trying to compare the bids line by line is impossible. First, they're grouped very differently. But even when I combine things to get comparable lines, one has electric and plumbing -50% but then framing +50%, foundations are nowhere near each other. It's just all over the place. I don't understand how line-items can be so far apart but the total so similar.

Also, last bid didn't include A/C, so there's another big chunk. Overall, It's definitely higher.

So we're at a point where the builder with the best referral, most complete bid, who's been the easiest and most professional to talk with, and who we've seen a house he's built and loved is also the cheapest. The only point where he wasn't *the best* is in time to build, and that was neglible - 4-5 months vs. 4 months. Not rocket science on who we're picking here.

Do I negotiate and how hard? (p.s. I suck at that)

All the decent negotiating articles I found on google were really aimed at tract houses and had silly advice like "try to get 3% off if you're not using a real estate agent".

Well, what are you negotiating for? Are you negotiating to try and feel like you got some money off? Do you think the prices are too high? Are you negotiating for certain finishes?

Negotiating for the sake of saying you negotiated can often be a waste of time on both ends.

Tim Thomas
Feb 12, 2008
breakdancin the night away
Did you happen to check into the difference between poured and post-insulated versus insulated form? I've always wondered how much more expensive it is here in Massachusetts; we've toyed with building and I was curious.

Tim Thomas
Feb 12, 2008
breakdancin the night away

I've always wanted to ask this question about Australian wiring: are those breakers all wired in or do they clip into a bus bar in the load center? For the longest time I've assumed those are just DIN rail mount breakers, but that would mean that everything is wired onsite inside which I would have thought would go away to reduce install costs.

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