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Rhyno posted:I've seen a bunch of places upcharging on those loving things and it makes my blood boil. My shop doesn't, but he hooks me up on back issues and other poo poo so it balances out.
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Nov 26, 2017 05:45
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To be fair, having a pull list isn't really of benefit to the customer, but it is super helpful for your retailer.
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Nov 27, 2017 16:52
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Nah, I hate dealing with pull lists. For the people who can only make it in once a month it is very useful. Most retailers would do away with them given the chance but the industry has beaten this YOU MUST PREORDER nonsense into the consumers head.
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Nov 27, 2017 17:15
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Is it untrue that if a comic has low orders it might be difficult to get since stores don't want to over-order? That seems like a good reason to preorder. (Granted, I'm KILLING COMIC SHOPS by only buying digital so what do I know?)
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Nov 27, 2017 17:18
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Rhyno posted:Nah, I hate dealing with pull lists. For the people who can only make it in once a month it is very useful. Most retailers would do away with them given the chance but the industry has beaten this YOU MUST PREORDER nonsense into the consumers head. This makes no sense to me. Please explain.
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Nov 27, 2017 17:27
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Jordan7hm posted:This makes no sense to me. Please explain. Which part? We base our sales on what has sold previously. For new books we make educated guesses on how much to order. As for why I don't like dealing with them, you tend to get a few weirdos who get upset when you don't pull a copy of Everyman #438 because Nobodyman made a guest appearance AND THAT'S MY FAVORITE CHARACTER HOW COULD YOU NOT KNOW THAT.
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Nov 27, 2017 17:29
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Rhyno posted:Also if your shop doesn't bag & board for free you should find a new loving shop. I've got six shops within a half-hour drive and none of them bag and board, to my knowledge. 
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Nov 27, 2017 17:33
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Rhyno posted:Which part? I don’t understand why you would want to give up the guaranteed sales and the additional knowledge your pull lists give you. Those weirdos are going to shop at your store and be weirdos anyway. Without a pull list they’d just be mad at you for something else. Like most businesses would love to have customers so bought in to the pre-order model.
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Nov 27, 2017 17:41
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Rhyno posted:Which part? Lmao gently caress those nerds. When there's situations like that, I just email my guy and he gets it in there.
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Nov 27, 2017 17:46
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My shop doesn't like to "guess" on new books where they have virtually nothing historic to go on, which is where pull lists are helpful to them.
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Nov 27, 2017 17:47
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Well we're doing just fine with our system. We have 20 years of sales data so it's usually a very educated guess. In other news, we recently bought a heat press to do some minor restoration work on damaged books. Today we pressed a book that came from a very sketchy collection and a very bad odor started coming from the book in the press. Based on the condition of the sellers teeth i immediately guessed these books had been exposed to meth fumes so the PD is sending someone to check if they are a hazmat risk.
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Nov 27, 2017 18:47
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The Pre-Order Experience Rhyno: Hello customer, how the hell are ya? Good to see you. I have a fresh copy of your favorite comic ready for purchase, but feel free to browse our wares and pick up something else. gently caress yeah! Comixology: gently caress off, I already took your money. Get ready to see that comic on sale next weekend, bitch. *cusses added per Rhyno's comment* Space Fish fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Nov 27, 2017 |
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Nov 27, 2017 23:20
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Well i cuss a bit more but that's about right.
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Nov 27, 2017 23:25
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Rhyno posted:Well we're doing just fine with our system. We have 20 years of sales data so it's usually a very educated guess. UPDATE The books were definitely exposed to meth fumes according to the little sniffer thingee. They are handling the destruction so at least I don't have to worry about that. METH!
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Nov 28, 2017 15:04
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Rhyno posted:UPDATE Could've sold em for 10 times the price to meth addicts to smoke. Those people buy each others scabs - comics would be a step up.
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Nov 29, 2017 04:40
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Rhyno posted:I've seen a bunch of places upcharging on those loving things and it makes my blood boil. Lmao didn't you rip some guy off for his new 52 Batman, that you bought out of pocket on the clock, so you could resell it to the store for more money gently caress off rhyno you don't get to talk poo poo about anyone's business practices
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Dec 14, 2017 05:18
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Rhyno posted:Which part? You know what helps make educated guesses Information about how many people are demonstrably interested in it such as how many people have added it to their pull list You're a loving crazy person
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Dec 14, 2017 05:22
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Lmao didn't you rip some guy off for his new 52 Batman, that you bought out of pocket on the clock, so you could resell it to the store for more money Yeah that's about 10% of the incident, go ahead and omit the part where he was making vague threats of violence if we didn't buy his comics. BENGHAZI 2 posted:You know what helps make educated guesses Preorders are useless and the bulk of the larger retailers in this industry agree with that.
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Dec 14, 2017 05:30
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Every other industry tries to have preorders.
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Dec 14, 2017 05:35
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Jordan7hm posted:Every other industry tries to have preorders. No other industry functions in this manner. When a video game sells out it's not like there's never going to be another copy pressed. If we didn't have to worry about order thresholds, sales gimmicks and products being unavailable before they even hit the stands this industry would be much stronger. Edit: I am talking about the system of preordering product, not pull lists.
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Dec 14, 2017 05:39
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Rhyno posted:Yeah that's about 10% of the incident, go ahead and omit the part where he was making vague threats of violence if we didn't buy his comics. yeah uh huh sure that's why you were crowing about getting one over on this dude and it wasn't part of the story you told Rhyno posted:Preorders are useless and the bulk of the larger retailers in this industry agree with that. Rhyno posted:No other industry functions in this manner. When a video game sells out it's not like there's never going to be another copy pressed. If we didn't have to worry about order thresholds, sales gimmicks and products being unavailable before they even hit the stands this industry would be much stronger. and i was talking about pull lists and knowing ahead of time how many people for sure want something which is not the same as a preorder you fuckin loon
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Dec 14, 2017 05:49
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I don't know what you're talking about anymore. And yeah, what I did was wrong and I did own up to it. Doesn't change it but I admitted it was wrong in that same thread dude.
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Dec 14, 2017 05:51
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guy who acts like a belligerent rear end in a top hat all the time doesn't know poo poo about the industry he claims to be an expert on, passerby amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood
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Dec 14, 2017 05:51
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Rhyno posted:I don't know what you're talking about anymore. no you didn't, because i spent multiple pages calling you a shithead while you defended yourself, but its weird how more details crop up that paint you as the good guy, glad to see you haven't changed any also i'm responding to you being mad as gently caress about pull lists to tell you that pull lists are good and give you information about what you should order for quantity, for example if only one person puts it on their list, maybe don't order 100 copies of Spider-Man's Dentist #1. you seem to equate adding poo poo to your list with preordering which isn't nearly the same thing, but again, you being a belligerent rear end in a top hat is the norm edit if you expect me to believe you have ever admitted fault in your entire posting career you are dumb as heck BENGHAZI 2 fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Dec 14, 2017 |
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Dec 14, 2017 05:53
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Okay bro, whatever you say!
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Dec 14, 2017 05:56
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I was on your side until you said bro. You get some weird folks that come in trying to sell their books. Lot of older ladies, that you have to politely tell their kid's collection from the nineties isn't worth anything, but there's some real assholes out there that convinced themselves they've got some valuable stuff.
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Dec 14, 2017 08:22
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Open Marriage Night posted:I was on your side until you said bro. You probably have it worse since you're in a larger metro area than I am.
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Dec 14, 2017 08:34
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Building a Better Comic Shop - Rhyno Once Stabbed An Infant For a MISB X-Force #1 w/ Cable Card.
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Dec 14, 2017 14:33
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 Someone sure has a grudge in this here thread...!
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Dec 14, 2017 15:45
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Rhyno Assault Man blew up a schoolbus full of children
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Dec 14, 2017 16:29
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Mentally handicapped children.
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Dec 14, 2017 16:32
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Rhyno posted:No other industry functions in this manner. When a video game sells out it's not like there's never going to be another copy pressed. If we didn't have to worry about order thresholds, sales gimmicks and products being unavailable before they even hit the stands this industry would be much stronger. This stuff is all present in other niche retailers too, comics aren't unique in that regard. I agree the preorder system is pretty lovely for the retailers though. The gimmick stuff in particular (but there is a solution to gimmicks like "order 100 to get 1 variant": just don't buy it). Your posts a couple weeks ago were complaining about pull lists though, not preorders. I let it go but I truly do not understand why a store would not want customer preorders.
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Dec 14, 2017 18:08
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Jordan7hm posted:This stuff is all present in other niche retailers too, comics aren't unique in that regard. I agree the preorder system is pretty lovely for the retailers though. The gimmick stuff in particular (but there is a solution to gimmicks like "order 100 to get 1 variant": just don't buy it). It's just a headache to have to keep track of pull files. You always have that one guy who loses his poo poo over a single book being missed (because he never asked for it). We currently track all pull books at their own category just to simplify things. I know there are store that have no pull files and others that if you go past their minimum pickup time they boot your file and you never get it back and those stores are thriving.
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Dec 14, 2017 18:11
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I forgot to post in here but I have left my position at the store (6 weeks ago actually). I still have a ton of friends in the retail side and a few in the actual comics industry so I'll still post cool poo poo when i come across it but for actual in store shop talk we'll have to rely on the other comic goons.
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Mar 12, 2018 23:30
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Did you leave to pursue your dream of opening your own comic/sex toy shop?
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Mar 12, 2018 23:31
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I didn't really agree with the direction the store was taking since we rebranded and i was clashing with one of the owners too frequently. I was initially let go, then asked to come back so I did a few days and realized I no longer wanted to work there. So it really worked out for the best, I'm actually enjoying comics again for the first time in years. It's so good to just be a fan again.
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Mar 13, 2018 00:17
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Must be nice marrying into money 
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Mar 13, 2018 00:48
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She does make good money I can not lie. I have 7 interviews lined up for when we get home this week so i won't be out long.
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Mar 13, 2018 00:49
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Weren't you talking about moving to a marginally less racist part of the country anyway?
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That is off the table for now as my wife took a position here in town. We may end up in North or South Carolina in 2 years or so. I was hoping to stay at the store until that time but it was not meant to be. But man, i went into Comix Experience last night and it was such a great feeling to just enjoy the atmosphere and not have to worry about poo poo. Also the trip to DCs offices was just insanely cool and far more enjoyable as a fan and not an over stressed retailer.
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