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leftist 1: liberals are almost as bad as facists! leftist 2: liberals are as bad as fascists at least fascists are authentic and hates capitalism leftist 3: liberals are even worse than fascists I'm gonna vote far right to spite the center-left *all three leftists are promptly jailed and executed by the government they voted for
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Good point; only 1 goon has been executed by Hillary, so that would be 3 times worse.
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Mar 8, 2016 20:46
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Hot Take, Trump isn't a fascist, nor will he be executing political dissidents.
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Mar 8, 2016 20:49
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Powercrazy posted:Hot Take, Trump isn't a fascist, nor will he be executing political dissidents. What if they talk about how small his hands are?
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Mar 8, 2016 21:05
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Salt Fish posted:Good point; only 1 goon has been executed by Hillary, so that would be 3 times worse.
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Mar 8, 2016 21:09
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Donald gazed up at the enormous face. Eleven years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath those dark wrinkles. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two pride-scented tears trickled down the sides of his orange nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Hillary Clinton.
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Mar 8, 2016 21:12
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Salt Fish posted:Good point; only 1 goon has been executed by Hillary, so that would be 3 times worse. or three times as good depending on your p.o.v
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Mar 8, 2016 21:22
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e_angst posted:The best part about sticking to unrealistic principals is that you'll never have any effect on anything, so you can always blame everything that's wrong on others not adhering to your unrealistic principals. Opposing neoliberal hegemony dominating And exploiting the working class while dismantling any semblance of real representative democracy is only unrealistic if and because the so called "left wing" party never questions these things because YAAAAASE :iamafag:
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Mar 8, 2016 21:44
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Commie NedFlanders posted:Opposing neoliberal hegemony dominating And exploiting the working class while dismantling any semblance of real representative democracy is only unrealistic if and because the so called "left wing" party never questions these things because YAAAAASE :iamafag: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ the fact that so many leftists unironicaly believe something like this should serve as the explanation on why the tea party continues to be much much more successful than any leftist movement
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Mar 8, 2016 22:12
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Is anyone in later primary states registering Republican? I did. So now I'm trying to pick who to vote for in the primary AND the general. I probably won't vote R in the general, but am also looking at alternatives to writing in the Sand Man.
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Mar 8, 2016 22:31
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Bloody Queef posted:Is anyone in later primary states registering Republican? You should vote for Trump in the RNC primary. Then write-in Sanders for the general. Or better yet, register Dem, and vote for Sanders in both.
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Mar 8, 2016 22:34
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Powercrazy posted:You should vote for Trump in the RNC primary. Then write-in Sanders for the general. Or better yet, register Dem, and vote for Sanders in both. I can't change my affiliation now until after the primary in late April. If Bernie tells me to vote Clinton, I'm probably going to vote McAffee or Zoltan
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Commie NedFlanders posted:Opposing neoliberal hegemony dominating And exploiting the working class while dismantling any semblance of real representative democracy is only unrealistic if and because the so called "left wing" party never questions these things because YAAAAASE :iamafag: enjoy your endless rounds of circular firing squads
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Mar 8, 2016 22:59
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Bloody Queef posted:I can't change my affiliation now until after the primary in late April. Sounds like you don't actually trust Bernie at all.
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Mar 8, 2016 23:11
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Al! posted:enjoy your endless rounds of circular firing squads Joke's on you, idiot, I'm short-circuiting this process *points gun barrel at own head, pulls trigger*
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Gyges posted:Sounds like you don't actually trust Bernie at all. I don't really. He is a politician after all. But I made a huge mistake in 2008 by voting for Barack Obama. I gave him a pass on his 2006 Patriot Act vote. Under him we've seen the largest expansion of the security state in US history. I can't vote for Clinton or anyone who would advocate voting for her.
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Salt Fish posted:Good point; only 1 goon has been executed by Hillary, so that would be 3 times worse.
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Typo posted:^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ please explain to us why we should not regard populist insurrection and the growing trend of ill-focused hatred for congress and the executive as part of objective reality, let alone "believe it"
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stephenfry posted:im sorry you're not amused friend there's a big difference between acknowledging the ills of our political system and spouting "both parties are the same anyway".
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http://www.wsj.com/video/poll-33-of-sanders-supporters-wouldnt-vote-for-clinton/69C05055-85FE-4320-8D02-3EAC972CACD0.html WSJ/NBC poll says 33% of Sanders supporters won't vote for Hillary in November The Democratic establishment is retarded for not noticing this
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Mar 9, 2016 22:25
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Mister Fister posted:http://www.wsj.com/video/poll-33-of-sanders-supporters-wouldnt-vote-for-clinton/69C05055-85FE-4320-8D02-3EAC972CACD0.html Always recruiting time for the PUMAs.
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Mar 9, 2016 22:59
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Mister Fister posted:http://www.wsj.com/video/poll-33-of-sanders-supporters-wouldnt-vote-for-clinton/69C05055-85FE-4320-8D02-3EAC972CACD0.html 50% of Hilary supporters said the same thing about Obama in 2008 But hey who knows maybe they really will bern it all down
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Mar 9, 2016 23:15
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Typo posted:50% of Hilary supporters said the same thing about Obama in 2008 Yeah, but those Hillary supporters are more likely to be Democratic loyalists.
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Mister Fister posted:http://www.wsj.com/video/poll-33-of-sanders-supporters-wouldnt-vote-for-clinton/69C05055-85FE-4320-8D02-3EAC972CACD0.html if only they voted for Bernie in March
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Mar 9, 2016 23:18
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Bernie should offer her the VP slot.
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Mister Fister posted:The Democratic establishment is retarded for not noticing this what would "noticing this" mean other than handing the election over to Sanders
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Typo posted:50% of Hilary supporters said the same thing about Obama in 2008 Do you have a source on this?
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Mister Fister posted:http://www.wsj.com/video/poll-33-of-sanders-supporters-wouldnt-vote-for-clinton/69C05055-85FE-4320-8D02-3EAC972CACD0.html Good. Though I don't believe that number at all.
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Bloody Queef posted:Do you have a source on this? Gallup polling from March 2008 28% of Clinton supporters would vote for McCain over Obama. CNN article from May 2008 on exit polls 33% - 38% of Clinton supporters said they'd vote McCain over Obama while 12%-17% said they'd stay home. In comparison less than 20% of Obama voters were saying they'd vote McCain over Hillary. Seems pretty comparable. People always say they're not going to vote for the other candidate in the middle of the primaries and then come around by November. Through the other option being too horrible, their preferred candidate convincing them to vote their opponent, their hated rival candidate winning them over, or a combination thereof. Which makes a lot of sense because during the primary you're focused on the differences between one side's candidate instead of the similarities while also being in an ideological competition that is woven together with 56 or so mini competitions where your team wins or loses.
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my guess is if the DNC is actually giving that poll any credence they're not fretting over the 33% so much as celebrating their candidate's 13-point general election lead
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I'm done voting for Democrats who are enthusiastic supporters of the drug war. Hillary is saying the same poo poo that I remember Democrats saying back in 2004 on drugs even though public opinion has shifted a lot since then. They have lost my vote until they improve on criminal justice and drug policy issues.
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Mar 10, 2016 12:09
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Scorpions are probably healthier than that mystery meat crap.
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mike12345 posted:Bernie should offer her the VP slot. But then we get president Clinton when he dies in 2 years.
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Gyges posted:Gallup polling from March 2008 Thank for the links. I didn't remember Clinton supporters saying they wouldn't vote for Obama during the 2008 election.
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Lamebot posted:The way that sanders kept interupting hilldog was sooo rude! 
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People with conviction will destroy our us vs them 2 party system and that is unamerican!
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I'm not voting for Hillary Clinton because she is bad.
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Gyges posted:Gallup polling from March 2008 Major difference is bernie supporters are mostly young kids, it's hardly a reliable demographic to begin with. Who knows but a significant dip in youth vote (a return to pre Obama levels) this year if Hillary wins certainly wouldn't be a surprise. Just look at off year elections for a perfect example, young people are the least likely to be scared to the polls. Or 2004 for that matter. Both are big contradictions to what you are saying. You also need to keep in mind that hyper politicization across the voting spectrum is a recent thing, again even back to 04 this is quite evident-there were lots of dems that stayed home that year because they'd rather vote for a candidate they liked rather than vote against Bush. I would guess younger dean supporters were a big part of that.
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The Saurus posted:Only the most craven and pathetic americans will vote for hillary In that line I did quite enjoy the very long video at this fine website: http://wontvotehillary.com/
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