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A Buttery Pastry posted:The actual Marshall Plan was part of the US asserting itself as an imperial power, I don't think that this is what the word "imperial" means unless you're using Marxist historiography.
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Helsing posted:Didn't you know? Knee capping troublesome regimes on behalf of the Israelis, Saudis and French means the "world" relies on America for stability. Imagine how much worse Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya would be right now if not for America's stabilizing influence on the region. I too get misty eyed when I imagine a world with the likes of Ghaddafi and the Taliban still in power
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Mar 11, 2016 02:08
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JFairfax posted:Saddam bought his chemical weapons from the west and had satellite data from the US to help when he gassed the Iranians... What are you actually suggesting for US foreign policy?
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Mar 11, 2016 18:26
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JFairfax posted:As little as possible very carefully. So you're basically a left-wing isolationist? McDowell posted:I think every country with a US military presence should hold a referendum. If the majority says 'Yankee go home' - we go. Having demonstrated that our hegemony is democratic we would then have a high ground to pressure Russia on elections in Ukraine and Syria. This is already the case. As it turns out with the exception of Cuba US bases tend to be hosted willingly.
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Mar 11, 2016 18:59
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Tell me more about how Amerikkka is forcing Britain to host military bases against its will.
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Mar 11, 2016 19:08
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JFairfax posted:That's not the same as having held a referendum on the matter. Technically every election they hold is a referendum on the matter. Nobody but the fringe actually considers it to be a tenable political position.
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Mar 11, 2016 19:15
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JFairfax posted:I am aware, I think Tony Blair is a war criminal who lied to the British people and should be on trial for this. I also believe that my political opposition should be arrested and put on trial for the nebulously defined crime of "lying"
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Mar 11, 2016 19:27
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KaptainKrunk posted:I have my criticisms of Obama's foreign policy, but I think he's given us much more flexibility. Our relationship to Saudi Arabia and Israel wasn't healthy and it took a lot of guts to stand up to them. There hasn't been any relative decline of US power in any meaningful sense.
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Mar 15, 2016 03:16
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"Relative decline" is a phrase that has been in vogue among foreign policy folks for the past few years but it's mostly pessimism brought on by the financial crisis combined with the myth of the BRICS, which is deteriorating as we speak. It's also a really simplistic argument when it comes down to it. "The USA can't get 100% of what it wants all the time, therefore US decline," which ignores that there has never been a point in history where any country anywhere has been able to get everything it wants all the time.
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Haystack posted:Given that the USA hit its stride right after WW2 when basically the entire rest of the world was either a smoldering ruin or colonial shitheap... Yeah, we've lost relative power. We had lead, and now it's smaller. Okay, but that happened back in the late 20th century. Most people point to the 70's.
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