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passionate dongs posted:Bernie is not capable of productive compromise 2008 Barack Obama is not capable of productive compromise.
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:America doesn't have a parliamentary government 
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Mar 14, 2016 03:14
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:America doesn't have a parliamentary government lol
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Mar 14, 2016 03:15
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Deep Hurting posted:Too bad there's absolutely no reason to believe she wouldn't run hard to the right as soon as the Primary were to end and become another Margaret Thatcher even if she were to survive the General, which she probably wouldn't. Having the mask peeled back over these past few months and realizing who she actually is has been so disappointing.
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Mar 14, 2016 03:17
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:America doesn't have a parliamentary government 
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Mar 14, 2016 03:18
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Broken Machine posted:Having the mask peeled back over these past few months and realizing who she actually is has been so disappointing. lol you should have known years ago
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Mar 14, 2016 03:21
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Fidel Castronaut posted:I mostly feel hopeless about our gun culture ever changing or any meaningful legislature being passed so all I really have for solace is sharp anti-gun rhetoric, despite it not doing anything. You could buy a gun? Wait...no...buy two guns?
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Mar 14, 2016 03:21
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Yudo posted:You could buy a gun? Wait...no...buy two guns? despondently cradling my anti-gun comfort gun
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Mar 14, 2016 03:24
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So if the federal level doesn't matter and neither Bernie nor Hillary will not get anything done in the Oval Office , we should vote Trump, right?
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Mar 14, 2016 03:24
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passionate dongs posted:Bernie is not capable of productive compromise Actually, in the Senate he was a really, really good negotiator and got amendments added to a lot of bills. This was as the only Socialist in Congress. http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-gets-it-done-sanders-record-pushing-through-major-reforms-will-surprise-you
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Mar 14, 2016 03:26
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HiHo ChiRho posted:So if the federal level doesn't matter and neither Bernie nor Hillary will not get anything done in the Oval Office , we should vote Trump, right? Jesse Ventura dude.
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Mar 14, 2016 03:26
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Tercio posted:Neither Democratic candidate will get much accomplished. See: the past eight years. The best shot we have at the moment is to change the narrative; to present a case in terms of policies and proposals. I have no reason whatsoever to believe Clinton will genuinely put these kinds of things forward as a nominee. I have every reason to believe Bernie will, period. Bernie is absolutely right about needed a political "revolution." The executive has very limited powers: the goal to make change should be to create a movement and keep that network alive post election. Think what would happen if democrats actually voted in the mid-terms? Congress is hosed, but the senate, and some legislatures and statehouses could go blue. Basically, a more ideological Obama coalition (which was really about a man rather than ideas) that isn't tossed aside once the Whitehouse is won.
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HiHo ChiRho posted:So if the federal level doesn't matter and neither Bernie nor Hillary will not get anything done in the Oval Office , we should vote Trump, right? You shouldn't need this explained and are just being facetious and shitposting (because if you do you're a loving idiot). Nice bruh VVV Boon has issued a correction as of 03:30 on Mar 14, 2016 |
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Mar 14, 2016 03:27
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You're right. I should stop acting like an idiot. I'll be sure to vote Trump.
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Mar 14, 2016 03:29
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Boon posted:You shouldn't need this explained and are just being facetious and shitposting (because if you do you're a loving idiot). Having an rear end in a top hat in White House launched Bernie's career so Trump could be good for local democrats.
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Mar 14, 2016 03:30
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McDowell posted:Having an rear end in a top hat in White House launched Bernie's career so Trump could be good for local democrats. And really bad for SCOTUS long-term; far worse for LGBT, minorities - especially muslims and immigrants generally, the poor, the environment, and the world near-term. So yeah, sure, let's roll the dice! Boon has issued a correction as of 03:36 on Mar 14, 2016 |
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Mar 14, 2016 03:32
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Hillary is pretty Hawkish, but I don't think Bernie Sanders has the stomache for war if we actually needed to go to war. So I will vote Hillary. edit: Actually I look forward to casting my vote for Donald Trump in the primary on Tuesday in Illinois.
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Mar 14, 2016 03:37
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Boon posted:And really bad for SCOTUS long-term; far worse for LGBT, minorities - especially muslims and immigrants generally, the poor, the environment, and the world near-term. So yeah, sure, let's roll the dice! so we can either slowly bleed to death and go through all this again in 4 years, or die right now
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Mar 14, 2016 03:38
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I don't believe in accelerationism as a pragmatic or ideal concept for society. Nor do I accept your premise that we're slowly bleeding to death. This isn't even the worst state this country has been in, and socially we're far more progressed that we've ever been - I guess we'll have to disagree.
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Mar 14, 2016 03:39
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Hollismason posted:Hillary is pretty Hawkish, but I don't think Bernie Sanders has the stomache for war if we actually needed to go to war. What kind of situation do you foresee in the next 8 years where we need to go to war?
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Mar 14, 2016 03:40
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well i support sanders, and dont want to support anyone else hillary is garbage, and will continue to be garbage trump is garbage on fire
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Mar 14, 2016 03:41
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McDowell posted:What kind of situation do you foresee in the next 8 years where we need to go to war? Libya and Isis.
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Mar 14, 2016 03:49
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Hollismason posted:Libya and Isis. Boots on the ground is exactly what Daesh wants.
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Mar 14, 2016 03:51
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Terror Sweat posted:so we can either slowly bleed to death and go through all this again in 4 years, or die right now if you are white and male you'll probably be alright
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Mar 14, 2016 04:02
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lamentable dustman posted:if you are white and male you'll probably be alright Make no mistake; President Trump is going to make America great again and he's going to start by having the NSA pull a list of everyone who made fun of his hands on the internet.
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Mar 14, 2016 05:59
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So Hillary is talking about making gun manufacturers hurt for the inevitable results of the toxic gun culture they promote and profit from, and Sanderistas are twisting themselves into knots to say why it's totally a bad thing. Then people talked about how Bernie's magic idealism will mean America relieves no hard times or tough choices at all. Anything else happen?
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Mar 14, 2016 12:00
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Fulchrum posted:So Hillary is talking about making gun manufacturers hurt for the inevitable results of the toxic gun culture they promote and profit from, and Sanderistas are twisting themselves into knots to say why it's totally a bad thing. Then people talked about how Bernie's magic idealism will mean America relieves no hard times or tough choices at all. yeah she said it was cool some innocent dude spent a million years on death row because 9/11
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Mar 14, 2016 12:04
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jarofpiss posted:yeah she said it was cool some innocent dude spent a million years on death row because 9/11 quote:"But what happened to you," she told Jackson, "is a travesty."
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right, she looked an innocent man in the face who spent 39 years on death row, said the states "have proven themselves incapable of carrying out fair trials," and then said she supports the death penalty.
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