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Prediction: haha no My babby's first MMO experience was being a magician in Everquest, which rocked. You could pick between various elementals depending on your needs, put gear on them to customize them, go on quests to buff them up, it set a really high bar for me. I went through a few other games ignoring or disliking pet classes until I hit WoW. Warlocks didn't click quite as much for me as their demons never really got good enough to compete with just dropping DOTs on everything and calling it a day. I liked the hunters a fair deal more, since they had a wide variety, you had to get off your rear end and search around if you wanted a unique-looking pet, and there were some interesting customization options. From there I hit up FFXI, got the summoner class and holy poo poo. Really unique, really useful, had to go on really challenging quests to get them, it was close to a perfect setup. Unfortunately the class as a whole is fairly weak, but I had a really good time getting chains with my avatars. Given the things I've liked and things I've disliked, I've gotten something resembling a list for what makes good summoner play in games in my book:
No game I've found recently really seems to be able to hit the right notes. GW2's ranger pets mostly just suck, and the mesmer and necro pets are more walking DOTs than participants in a fight. Skyforge's necro pets are also of the walking DOT variety. City of Villains had it pretty good with the mastermind, but they're gone. I'd heard some good stuff about Warhammer's pet classes, but of course they're gone too. FFXIV's summoner just plain sucks compared to FFXI's. LOTRO's pets are either walking buffs or fairly inconsequential. SWTOR's companions are essentially pretty well done pets, but no class is focused around their use. Anyhow, if anyone knows of a recentish MMO with a summoner that actually meets a large number of my requirements, I'd appreciate getting a heads-up!
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Being a goonfleet FC is pretty close to what you want 
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Mar 14, 2016 16:00
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Eve-Online has some of what you are looking for, especially in its carrier class ships, but you're looking at months and months of training skills in order to get to that point. -Troika- is absolutely on point by the way. Listen to him.
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Mar 14, 2016 16:20
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Any MMO character can be seen as then pet while you are the summoner. Does the game really have to have a pet class?
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Mar 14, 2016 18:22
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I dont think any current MMO has a class that works like this, they will have parts of what you like, but they also have poo poo you hate. also re-reading your post , " I liked the hunters a fair deal more, since they had a wide variety, you had to get off your rear end and search around if you wanted a unique-looking pet, and there were some interesting customization options." go back and play as a hunter, if the only thing you dislike about the wow hunter pet is actually having to find it , it sounds like thats the game for you? mrhotdogvendor fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Mar 14, 2016 |
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Mar 14, 2016 19:46
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I also have basically only played summoner classes in any MMO I've played and I understand your dissatisfaction with how most MMO's handle them. I currently play eve but if you want to scratch that pet itch, EVE isnt gonna help. eve drones/fighters != MMO pets
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Mar 14, 2016 19:51
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-Troika- posted:Being a goonfleet FC is pretty close to what you want lol
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Mar 14, 2016 19:53
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Tenzarin posted:Any MMO character can be seen as then pet while you are the summoner. Does the game really have to have a pet class? This is deep bro.
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Mar 14, 2016 19:58
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mrhotdogvendor posted:I dont think any current MMO has a class that works like this, they will have parts of what you like, but they also have poo poo you hate. I was actually saying that having to find the pet was a good thing, I liked that putting in time and effort would be rewarded with a blinged-out pet. Cataclysm is the reason I'm not still playing WoW; everything went too far off the rails for too many of the classes I played.
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Mar 14, 2016 20:24
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-Troika- posted:Being a goonfleet FC is pretty close to what you want The AI isn't good enough for my tastes.
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Mar 14, 2016 20:25
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Valatar posted:I was actually saying that having to find the pet was a good thing, I liked that putting in time and effort would be rewarded with a blinged-out pet. Cataclysm is the reason I'm not still playing WoW; everything went too far off the rails for too many of the classes I played. why not play on one of the goon whatever old WoW servers before cata? also plz dont play eve,I wouldnt wish this on anyone.
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Mar 14, 2016 23:59
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Pet classes are terrible and I'm glad you're having difficulty finding one.
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Mar 15, 2016 00:19
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Necromancer in DAOC made your ethereal with your pet out so you basically became your pet. Pet classes are always kinda meh. D3 Voodoo doctor, lets you summon zombie dogs and a big golem.
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Mar 15, 2016 00:22
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City of Villains Mastermind was the best pet class in an MMO ever.
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Mar 15, 2016 02:36
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SWTOR. Every class in SWTOR is a pet class (because you have to use companions.) You can customize their appearance, they have different specs (you can use them as a healing pet, a DPS pet, or a tank pet), and you can micromanage their abilities with their own ridiculously long hotbar. They are also integrated into the story and, in KOTFE, you have to grind for a bunch of weird ones!
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Mar 15, 2016 06:48
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bonds0097 posted:City of Villains Mastermind was the best pet class in an MMO ever. Especially robot pets! Even though it's not an MMO, D2's skelemancer build was my pet class of choice, because it let me just sit back while they do most of the work. Mastermind came pretty close to that.
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Mar 15, 2016 07:02
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Diablo 3 witchdoctor has very viable all pet builds
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Mar 15, 2016 07:47
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Reverand maynard posted:Diablo 3 witchdoctor has very viable all pet builds But they are boring as gently caress. Nobody really gives a poo poo about your pets doing solid damage, they want them to be interesting.
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Mormon Star Wars posted:SWTOR. Every class in SWTOR is a pet class (because you have to use companions.) You can customize their appearance, they have different specs (you can use them as a healing pet, a DPS pet, or a tank pet), and you can micromanage their abilities with their own ridiculously long hotbar. How could I forget about this? SWTOR for sure has the best pets in an MMO.
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Mar 15, 2016 18:18
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Blade and Soul has catsummoners They do things like suplex enemies All of them are cats, but you can dress them up like anime princesses so they are customizable. There's like 20 different cat body types too.
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Mar 15, 2016 18:37
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FF14's Summoner and Scholar are actually really cool, especially with the expansion. But really you should just pick up a Pokemon game. It will scratch that itch til it bleeds and then you'll never worry about it again.
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Mar 15, 2016 19:29
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The Sega Dreamcast has a game called Seaman. Where you raise and teach your pet Seaman.
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Mar 15, 2016 19:43
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Pet classes peaked with City of Heroes. Mastermind was god-tier fun. Summoner in Blade and Soul is very good but you have to choke down a lot of anime.
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Mar 16, 2016 02:09
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I said come in! posted:How could I forget about this? SWTOR for sure has the best pets in an MMO. Agreed.
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Everquest 2: The Necro and Conjurer classes were amazing. I played a necro, and while--yes he did dot. You put two necros in a group, and they can heal, they had a ton of utility. The pets were awesome too, and the higher rank pet the better it got, and you could always control it, and do special things with it.
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I miss pet classes that just had really absurd pets, which only works in sandbox MMOs I suspect. My first game was UO, and I always had a blast running around with my Nightmare & White Wyrm.
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boho posted:FF14's Summoner and Scholar are actually really cool, especially with the expansion. 14's Summoner and Scholar have pretty strong pet abilities, to the point that the Scholar Fairy can heal regular exp dungeons while you DPS your heart out. With Summoner you can just let them do whatever they want but microing their important abilities is pretty important for enhancing your own DPS output and handle some mechanics. Also every class is technically a pet class outside of instances once you hit 30 and you complete a quest to allow your chocobo mount to party with you, but they're completely independent with their own AI routine that uses abilities based on what you've unlocked via trees and what stance you have them set to. This doesn't preclude Summoner or Scholar from summoning their class pets either. Skaw fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Mar 19, 2016 |
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Perfect World Venomancer might come close. Havent played that game in years though. You had to go out and tame your summons. Lower the lvl the better it could be. Different pets for different situations. Rock guys as tanks, scorpions for dd.
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Meskhenet posted:Perfect World Venomancer might come close. PWI was awful in every other way, but god I loved the pet system. You could collect all kinds of different looking creatures and keep extras as items in the bank to swap out when you got bored, like a weird nostalgic bit of Pokemon but in MMO form. I dimly remember my favorite was one of the Qingfu beetles, but they came in different colors or something so I went on a quest all the way to some other newbie town a million miles away just to get my beetle. 
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Freakazoid_ posted:Especially robot pets! Ninjas.  Pet ninjas best ninjas.
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Vanilla era WOW warlock pets. Each one had it's place and with proper micro made you a PVP god.
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summoner in blade and soul is probably the closest you're gonna get the cat can knock down, call in missile strikes, slow, parry/charge; you're basically playing two classes which sounds similar to what you're looking for
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Rafza posted:summoner in blade and soul is probably the closest you're gonna get The really sad thing here is that the original ink monster pet concept for the B&S summoner was just awesome. If they hadn't dumped that for a derpcat, I'd've been all about it.
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Stanley Pain posted:Vanilla era WOW warlock pets. Each one had it's place and with proper micro made you a PVP god. Burning Crusade era demonology was a blast, i even liked the soul shard mechanic 
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It's not an mmo but in Mount and Blade you get hundreds of pet soldiers to throw at your enemies.
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bonds0097 posted:City of Villains Mastermind was the best pet class in an MMO ever. CoH was a bad game fite me
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There's some mega P2W chinagame.exe called Dragon Nest or Dragon Home or something to that effect where you tame dragons of all shapes and sizes and raise them and evolve them or some poo poo.
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Xexre posted:There's some mega P2W chinagame.exe called Dragon Nest or Dragon Home or something to that effect where you tame dragons of all shapes and sizes and raise them and evolve them or some poo poo. Dragon's Prophet. It was briefly in the US on Sony's servers, crashed and burned, got shut down last year. I tried it when it was in beta, and it was a giant loving mess. The concept was pretty sweet, because who doesn't want to come flapping in on Onyxia and ruin everything's poo poo? However, the animations for everything were janky, you'd be doing some big martial arts combo on some random rat and it would just sit there, motionless, with no sign that you were even touching it until it eventually fell over.
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All of you talking about the Mastermind class are wrong. The regular criminals were the best, because you'd beat cops, mole people, horrors, giant mechs, and some lesser gods by just throwing enough braindead street tough mooks at the problem.
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ellbent posted:All of you talking about the Mastermind class are wrong. The regular criminals were the best, because you'd beat cops, mole people, horrors, giant mechs, and some lesser gods by just throwing enough braindead street tough mooks at the problem. Wrong. Dogs were the best because they had a hilariously halfassed knockdown animation.
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