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redreader posted:I got a call saying that the increase is approved and I'll get my job offer today or tomorrow. They bumped me up to senior and matched my old salary that I mentioned, but there's also a substantial bonus every year that apparently everyone at the company gets, or doesn't get. Mine would have been like 10% but is now 25%. My old job didn't have that so I suppose I'm sort of glad I got laid off, like I normally end up saying. Thanks for all of your help everyone. Aww yiss, that’s dope as hell.
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leper khan posted:1. you can try going a little over base, but its usually easier to get other perks even if they net the same [conference/hotel budget/flight budget, learning budget, internet/phone paid, etc] Sorry if I missed this, but if they offer equity then it’s always easier for them to give more equity than almost anything else
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Nobody Interesting posted:Yeah that does sound right - with any luck I'll have the balls to ask for something like that. Do it. I had the exact same thing happen to me where I threw out a number that was like 50% than my last job and she was like “oh honey, we can get you more than that” and they did. Ask for like 110 and they’ll probably counter with something that’s good for both sides
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Jordan7hm posted:Why would you ask for something (a second time)? Wait for them to make an offer. Oh yeah this is the right answer, forgot about that. Listen to this goon
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Eric the Mauve posted:No, you should ask for more money. Your gut is trying to keep you safe from a perceived threat because you have an irrational fear of losing the offer if you negotiate. Tell your gut to shove it, and jump bitch!! You can do it!!
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“I’m excited about Company’s mission, and optimistic about its future performance in the industry. I want to ensure my goals are aligned with the Company’s. If you can see your way to a total salary / extra stock grant / bonus percentage of $X%, I’m ready to sign an offer with start date Y.” That’s the exact wording I used - in my case I was asking only for more stock, hence the wording about aligning goals (reading between the lines, I’m just saying “I want a bigger reward when the company stock goes up”). They sent the updated offer letter without even replying to my email lol. Don’t be passive. Don’t be vague. Be assertive, confident, and specific. As others have said, doing these things will actually boost your image and the value the hiring people will assign to you mentally. The more you get paid, the better your manager will feel about having you on the team (assuming you perform adequately, and even then sometimes that doesn’t matter much) because you must be a great asset if you’re paid well. This post is possibly the gold standard on salary negotiation - both the mechanics and the psychology. Especially valuable is the fundamental differences between your psychology and the hiring person(s)’. For you, it’s your life and livelihood. For them, it’s another Tuesday. For you it’s your income. For them it’s a line item among thousands. Read it. https://www.kalzumeus.com/2012/01/23/salary-negotiation/ Good old Methanar taught me a lot of what I know about this industry, crazy son of a bitch that he is madmatt112 fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Apr 4, 2024 |
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I'll continue to nitpick and say that "can see your way to" is indirect and detracts from your overall excellent example message. Good negotiators ask for what they want and they do not qualify it. I’ll respectfully disagree that it’s indirect. It’s very direct and specific, and more specifically it’s used to set up the “if, then” structure of “if you give me X, then I give you a signature” that is meant to… “discourage” thinking that they have other options. Herd them toward your chosen outcome. If they’re going to say no and/or send a counter-offer, they’re most likely gonna do it regardless of your wording (if they’re good at their job).
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:most HR people suck poo poo at their job OP 100% true in my experience  KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:
lol I can’t figure out how our two structures are different! I thought I was saying “if you give me what I want, you’ll get what you want”, which is how I’m reading yours as well. Either we’re doing that thing where two people are arguing/disagreeing over something but actually agreeing without realizing it Or I’m dumb as bricks and my reading comprehension is bad. I’m willing to accept either or both 
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:it's purely semantics at this point and I'm not sure how much it matters, but you're structuring it as "Give me what I want, and in return I will give you what you want" and I prefer "I will give you want you want, and in return you will give me what I want" Lead with the thing they want and anchor them to that. Ahh, okay I see. Well explained, thanks. Yours is a compelling argument
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Blurb3947 posted:Was offered 45k, countered with 53k + more PTO, they countered with the money but no extra PTO. Accepted. Hell yeah, you deserve every cent of that. The best part is that any raises you get will (most likely) serve to proportionally amplify the benefit you’ve earned here. So this is a win today and every time you get a raise at this company. Great job!!
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Pander posted:Company offered me a 9% raise for the year. Goons stay so winning. 14% raise is great
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gently caress yes, dangle that ladder behind you! 
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