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Long time reader, first time poster. Chalk up one more win for the thread. I just signed an offer that will give me a 76% bump in total comp for the first year. That’s mostly because the current job has been underpaying me, but I was still able to negotiate for more than I expected. What helped me most was thoroughly understanding my BATNA, refusing to give a number first, and having the willingness to walk away from multiple opportunities if necessary. It really amazed me how much it changed conversations compared to the last time I did this, when I had no idea what I was doing. Thanks thread!
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Eric the Mauve posted:He can just name a number high enough that he would be willing to accept it and bear the risks. I recently did this and they couldn’t get there. I think it’s perfectly reasonable, but I work (almost past tense) for a huge company with a very well established “dive and save” process. I have a friend who has successfully done it twice now and still hasn’t been replaced.
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Jul 21, 2022 21:53
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Good for you and your fam, goon. Sounds like a well earned achievement after some very hard work.
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Jul 22, 2022 23:14
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This is why the safe play is to also take a giant poo poo on your manager’s desk.
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Jul 23, 2022 06:48
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I wouldn’t wait to get something in writing to negotiate. What did you say when they “wanted to make sure $XXX was good”? That would have been the time to negotiate specifics, including signing bonus, verbally. Also, I hope this isn’t the only company you’re talking to because I wouldn’t hold my breath on them coming through.
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Jul 28, 2022 03:13
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They’re writing an offer letter before first agreeing on comp? Usually the negotiations happen before that.
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Nov 3, 2022 23:21
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If you touch computers well enough to know C++, I hope you know you can do much better than that offer.
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Jan 23, 2023 04:19
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Also illegal in a growing number of states in the US.
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Aug 26, 2023 17:29
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Telling a potential employer that you’re a member of a protected class actually also puts them in legal jeopardy. It creates an incentive for them to find a legitimate reason not to hire you so they can avoid a potential tough legal situation. I worked at a very large tech company and we were taught a specific phrase to say if someone brought up something like that (and of course to never ask about it ourselves). So yeah, do not tell them.
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Feb 12, 2024 16:24
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Don’t remember verbatim, I never had to use it thankfully, but it was something like: “Thank you for sharing that information, I won’t use it to evaluate your suitability for the role.”
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The Negotiation Thread: weird flex but ok
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