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Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall
play a back three and have vardy kane and sturridge all up front

swap sturridge for sterling if you fancy

put aaron cresswell in the squad, too.

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Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Jose posted:

michail antonio has to be a better option than most of the other wingers

England don't pick players on form

except danny drinkwater

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

FullLeatherJacket posted:

they were inherently piss by nature, and were largely piss on the fringes, but had the potential to not be piss

the England team that went to France 98 was:

Seaman, Martyn, Flowers, Le Saux, Campbell, Southgate, Adams, Keown, R. Ferdinand, Good Neville, Ince, Beckham, McManaman, Scholes, Batty, Lee, Anderton, Merson, Shearer, Sheringham, Owen, L. Ferdinand

darren anderton was always a wasteman and I'm glad he's dead now but lots of those players were actual good phwoar players and not people who are totally going to be good "any day now, honest" which seems to be the new standard for starting for England

Seaman, Martyn and Flowers to Joe Hart

Le Saux and Neville to Walker and Rose

Ince and Scholes to Dier and Drinkwater

loving hell

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Brendan Rodgers posted:

Why does everyone love Wilshere so much

because no other English person can play a through pass while running

except Dele Alli and Barkley I guess.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

MoPZiG posted:

That team can't string 2 passes together..

Lallana, Welbeck, Vardy is a pretty good front three on the counter tho

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

vyelkin posted:

Good thing Vardy isn't playing then.

he'll score a consolation in the second half

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Bogan Krkic posted:

Mark Noble should be in that midfield

would you want to ring up Julian Dicks and say you're from the FA and want his players? scary stuff

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Ewar Woowar posted:

Noble and Drinkwater are both decent but Henderson is far more mobile than both and I think that's where England's strength lies.

you want to play counter-attacking football without either of the two English midfielders actually playing that role to a high level, and instead want to play Hendo because Pace?

fwiw I disagree and think there's no way Henderson is "more mobile" than Drinkwater, who covers everywhere on the pitch and can actually pass

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall
if only Jamaica hadn't poached wes morgan, it'd be coming home in a bus.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Ziggy Tzardust posted:

Townsend over Antonio is the one that gets me. I understand not taking Noble and Cresswell as that's a lot of competition for those positions. Carroll is too inconsistent. But Antonio has been great all season while Townsend had a few good games and then got relegated.

Townsend is in the form of his life tbf, I've never been a fan at all but even though all he does is cut inside and shoot, he's at least scoring for Newcastle

Mark Noble captained an England team to a final and will never be called up to the full squad despite having a better season than all but two of the midfielders picked.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Eau de MacGowan posted:

Did big andy crock himself on the last day of the season, because let me tell you I am going chimp out big time if rashford and sturridge are going ahead of him

he's been fit for a surprising amount of time now and is first choice on form (for west ham not england obviously)

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall
when Vardy doesnt play this will be revealed as a bad thing

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

RideTheSpiral posted:

it's ok now. big Rooney is the big target man

it's only Australia

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall
Woy has not made wise choices here

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall
Townsend has this game onwards to play his way out of the championship

expect lots of long shots

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

EvilHawk posted:

Drinkwater was very very average in each of the England games he's played (bordering on anonymous for much of Australia game).

the job of a manager is to make the best of what he's got and the best of what he's got is drinkwater banging long balls to vardy and 9 other wastrels.

Given England have had this problem for decades I don't really think it's Hodgson's fault

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Ninpo posted:

It looked to me like Rooney was playing at the tip of the diamond behind Vardy and Kane. They kept ending up wide when not in possession as Woy had them assisting the full backs lol

asking Jamie Vardy to assist the fullbacks is unforgiveably stupid

his whole existence is a loving counter threat, why would you even call him up if you're not going to let him do his job

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Hashtag Banterzone posted:

"let's pretend we defeated ISIS"

change defeated to beat and it scans

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall
lets pretend
lets pretend
lets pretend we beat isis!
lets pretend we beat isis!

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall
I hope Roy takes up the offer of whale-watching in Iceland. That'd be a lovely day out.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Pissflaps posted:

Let's hope your mother let's him out of the hotel room to do a bit of site seeing haha

Ask my mother? I know what my mother would say. She’d look across the room, and she’d say, ‘Put on a proper suit, do up your tie, and sing the national anthem!’”

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall
gary neville and ray lewis out too

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

kcer posted:

all his staff are leaving

can't remember anything this embarrassing in my years of watching football. Even seeing Newcastle get knocked out of cups by non league teams wasn't this bad

I don't want you to forget Emile Heskey running to the corner flag for the sole purpose of relegating you, that was amazing

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

rear end cobra posted:

England is a failed state. Poor people. It won't be soon but maybe they'll find some hope in their miserable lives at some point in the future.

it turned out we were poor little belgium all along

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Sam hates Noble and tried to sell him his first year at West Ham.

I can't remember the match but I remember Noble going loving ballistic at Allardyce subbing maybe Downing? and Allardyce having to take Nolan off instead since the players just stood there shouting at him.

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Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Ninpo posted:

Lol if anyone thinks we won't continue to get the same attempts to crowbar 11 popular names onto the pitch at any given time apart from during useless friendlies where a token in form name from a smaller club will be tossed onto the pitch, never to be seen again after a nervy performance.

The FA and sponsors are a big part of the problem and they're not changing/going away any time soon.

If I have anything positive at all to say about big sam it's that he's probably the only english manager who is quite happy to tell the money to gently caress itself if it doesn't agree with him.

Otoh, this has clearly been his career ambition since he was young, and he might kowtow more than normal.

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