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pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Why not, in as ImAHorriblePancakeMonster

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pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


RabbitWizard posted:

Troubling nickname for worldchat spotted.

Is there a limit, RP reason, or just going to be really annoying due to length? I look to be stretch the online list which is great.

I'm surprised it let me have a name this long almost nothing does.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


I think they are on a witch hunt after finding someone scraping the man pages. Really if that is their bot check it would be trivial to have it make a sound on whisper and / or reply to them.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


All will tremble under the weight of a horrible monster made out of pancakes! Or maybe I'm a normal monster made out of horrible tasting pancakes I'm not really sure.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Chat was great. We spent the first 15 minutes waiting for pubbies to react to crowding and they didn't we then started to make cone puns in world chat. This confused pubbies and was great. Eventually pubbies started to side with our insanity which is when we dropped it and let them wonder why it suddenly died left confused. Waiting for the pinecone god to return.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


AKMoose posted:

I had been rolling solo, but tonight's shenanigans have made me want to aid the good goon cause. Can I get an invite for Moose Moose?

Oh you're Moose Moose. The one pubbie I liked wasn't actually a pubbie. Thought something was wrong with me! I loved your HorriblePineconeMonster pun.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


neogeo0823 posted:

We're movin' on up in the world. We also have over twice as many total and active members as the next guild, and IIRC more active members than all the other top 100 guilds combined.

On the next topic, we need to come up with silly religion gimmicks to have fun with. we're already a pine cone cult, and it looks like the next one will be a salt cult. We need to come up with more things to worship and ways in which to do so.

I know that a ways down the line(because it's too soon to do it now), I want to establish a Church of Treesus. He was chopped down and made into furniture/shingles/toothpicks/paper for your sins, after all.

Treesus died for our cross.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


We apparently frightened the pubbies when we actually hit the leader board.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Cowboy ATF got a little homophobic and pubbies turned on him tonight. It was pretty great.



full history

pixaal fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Apr 14, 2016

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


we're 1/4th the player base. They only thing pubbies have on us is time. They can only have so much stockpiled. With their levels they can gather faster and produce faster per person sure, but it's only a matter of time before we will out preform them.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


neogeo0823 posted:

We've been outperforming them every single day since we made top 100 and almost surely every day before that. You can go to the guild highscores page and see that we're gaining more EXP per day than any other guild on the chart.

I said out produce, as in final products not XP. We don't have people high enough level to make half the stuff yet.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Vasler posted:

I was part of the mass ignore. Never forget :negative:

I sent him a message along the lines of "I liked you, when did you become such a jerk" to which his reply was to past the PM into world ignore me and tell me to stop messaging him it's harassment. Okay there buddy, I was trying to be guild diplo but whatever overreact to a bunch of nothing. I think some of the old guard are just scared because they were the biggest guild or they made the most XP/day and we shattered everything they stood for with a massive wave of newbies.

I love it when people drag their crazy out into public view.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Chunjee posted:

Made this a few weeks back and haven't really posted it because I am still experimenting with some basic DRM idea.

It plays an mp3 when the timer completes.



(APH is actions per hour)

Addition request: group mode. Add a server integration that will store the data, we have the bot check timer, add location and task fields (either drop down or self type). So I could have 62 second, 56minutes left on my bot check and be in DF cutting wood.

Someone could check and go I have WG up, who is active? They check the program and see that I'm cutting wood they ask me if I want some free wild growth or just throw it on me.

I know a lot of people don't respond to "I have mana who wants buff" for a good 5-10 minutes due to the idle nature of the game. This means people are missing out, it also means people are sitting at max mana or start casting random stuff to dump their mana wasting valuable guild XP gains that someone else could be getting us.

in NO WAY should this program interact with the game, it should be a buff request system.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Grumpy just pissed a bunch of old guard off. He revamped cooking entirely.

http://amar.bornofsnails.net/man/skills/cooking#enhancements

All food will now be generic -Timer -Min Timer instead of skill specific in short Cherries and pie crust are critical to -timer food.

All old food can no longer be produced on the 30th. This is going to simplify things, for us as we don't have deep production chains this is a great thing. This makes things easier for us to make and keep in stock.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Coffeehitler posted:

Shellfish were a little higher and I don't think anything else has changed in Fishing.

Yeah they were 18 instead of 12

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Virigoth posted:

I think that a repeatable quest would be good but you'd need to be marked with some sort of "newbie" status on your character in the backend so it disappears after like character level 15 or something.

Or just a few simple quests that are progressive. Bring me 100 bass, okay now bring me 500 bass, okay now bring me 2000 bass, 1000 halfmoon and 1000 sunfish. Okay here is the good end of quest chain reward. Do as many as are needed for someone to get to 10-15 in a skill following the chain. You don't have to even give out too much bonus XP until the capstone if you don't want to. You can then make the ones that give very little XP and are just breadcrumbs go away at certain levels like at level 5 the first one goes away and you get the 2nd one right away "you like you know your way around a fishing pole!"

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Horking Delight posted:

I'm so sad it looks like he deleted his "GUYS THEY'RE STEALING MY FRIEEEEEEENDS HELLLLLLLP" thread. It was great.

Lesson for us, screenshot everyone pubbies will tear it down when they realize their tears are so yummy.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


I think we were looking for this forum post, I had it opened in a tab apparently.

Key word Sinking ship

Kinda Underhanded
May 01, 2016 22:52Cowboy
"ATF

Me and londoe have a level51 guild, with compounds and storages on first, second, and third island. Wit him chopping would you would never have to worry about logs and can do and say as you please here.
And ATF seems like a sinking ship at this point.
Also lady is here for a visit so you can join the fun if you want."

Sinking ship? I love the water.
May 01, 2016 23:10Meowth
Who was that?
May 01, 2016 23:15Cowboy
The person that sent that was Charles Bukowski
May 01, 2016 23:25Meowth
Is he just messaging your members directly?
May 01, 2016 23:27Your Wickedness
And it's really our business why?This is guild business, not community business
May 01, 2016 23:28Hexasodium
Thanks Cowboy, i love to see the character of players :3
May 01, 2016 23:28Cowboy
Indeed Meowth, and yes YW as Hexa said, it's needs be!

Last Modified: May 01, 2016 23:29
May 01, 2016 23:32Meowth
Wasn't he just in your guild a few days ago, though?
May 01, 2016 23:34Cowboy
Yes, several days ago, he has since taken 1 member, that original message was sent to a longtime member of mine, this is sent to my cook

Charles Message

We are happy to inform you of certain benefits you may enlist temporally or at any designated dates.

Pro members such as yourself will receive the following;
Compounds on every island
Plenty of storage space on every island
Fun chat with other high class smokers
Copious amounts of resources
The ability to rid yourself of ticks
No need to slave over a stove for days just to see;
Chelle has removed 100 oyster casinos from Enhancements 20 times a day
Demon bought 190 frog legs from Cowboys Guild Shop

We are here to present you with recognition for your dedicated work and
reward you with less work for a higher sense of rewards since we know you cannot possibly be on 24/7.

We understand if you decline, visits are welcomed.

If you feel you have received this message in error, no need to reply.
Have a wonderful evening.
May 01, 2016 23:36Your Wickedness
Poaching isn't against rules, while it's frowned upon though and really crappy to do to anyone :/
May 01, 2016 23:38Meowth
Oh. Do you think your cook feels under-appreciated in your guild? That seems to be what he's saying.

When I asked, he said he left because some of the people in your guild were on his ignore list, but that they still show up in guild chat.
May 01, 2016 23:39Kaeru
we know you cannot possibly be on 24/7
Says whom?
Takes two to tango, or someone really limber.. If they left it was on them, not you or the person offering up what they viewed to be better. Maybe the person who left will come back after a short time. Some people need vacas. I have bounced around to help other guilds in the past.
May 01, 2016 23:42Cowboy
Charles left on his own, nobody forced him out or kicked him, I hold NO hostages, but it seems that he feels that he may pick & choose my members to join him!
Now I know it's not against the rules to do so, but this is kinda wrong, he leaves a guild because of members but wishes to Take members from said place?
May 01, 2016 23:46DivineCoffeeBinge
I have to admit, the fact that Bukowski made sure to try and poach Guild members by saying "Also lady is here for a visit so you can join the fun if you want" - in other words "hey look GIRLS" - is delightfully sad.
May 01, 2016 23:46Your Wickedness
There are going to be people that like others more in their guild than another, it happens- Yea it sucks he did that though, but you also knew he was not a nice person as is, as when I was there he was and also had first hand at seeing the things said and such
May 01, 2016 23:57Meowth
I don't know, maybe you should give Buwowski a chance to explain himself first. It seems unfair to judge him so quickly.
May 01, 2016 23:59Your Wickedness
Me?I was in the guild with him, I know how he is
May 02, 2016 00:01Cowboy
Explain? Here is an actual Whisper from Charles to me! This explains it all!

01:04:02 From Charles Bukowski : ok, but don't expect any help, nor any complaints of missing ATF members
May 02, 2016 00:15DivineCoffeeBinge
To be fair, Cowboy, I don't really see how that explains anything, since it's bereft of context and also not entirely clear ('complaints of missing ATF members'? Is he making kidnap threats or something?).
May 02, 2016 00:17Cowboy
He is warning me he's gonna attempt to take my members,or at least that's how I read it.
May 02, 2016 00:19Your Wickedness
That really isn't something mods or Grumpy can do about it though, that's the thing- It sucks ppl do that, but otherwise bringing it to our attention only gives him the attention he wants and let's us know this is going on...Otherwise is just a guild matter
May 02, 2016 00:21Kaeru

May 02, 2016 00:23Cowboy
But in General, brings out the "Intentions" and "Worthiness" of the Guild & it's Owners,,,or the lack there of!
May 02, 2016 00:41DivineCoffeeBinge
"He is warning me he's gonna attempt to take my members,or at least that's how I read it." Well...

So what?

I mean, okay, fine, I'm possibly operating from an unusual point of view since I'm in a fairly close-knit Guild that I guess some of you dislike (to the point of feeling the need to announce it in world chat when you use your Ignore List, which is super-classy, for the record); maybe things are different in other guilds. But personally, if I was looking for a guild, I'd want to stay in the one where I was having fun, where I felt like I was contributing to the whole guild's success (not just the one or two top guild members' success; I've been in games that worked that way, it's no fun), where I was being treated with respect, and where I got along with the other members. It kinda seems to me that if you don't want your members poached, then the way to prevent it is to provide those things better than anyone else is going to.

And that's sort of what I'm getting at when I mention that whisper's Lack of Context. Without knowing anything about how Bukowski's motivations, all I know is "he thinks people should leave ATF and join whatever his Guild's name is." I don't know if he thinks that because he thinks that ATF's power structure is set up solely to benefit the people at the top - some of the things in that earlier message to the cook seem to imply such - and he's trying to build a more egalitarian guild. I don't know if he's just being a jerk. I have no way of knowing, so it's hard to make a fair judgement.

(that recruitment message is still funny as heck though. So very, very sad)
May 02, 2016 00:46Your Wickedness
I totally agree, DivineCoffeeBinge I also know that Cowboy does get things guild needs, he also buys the extended botchecks for members...I have only seen Fool guild do this, but has been a while(it doesn't bother me in the slighest)...Though there are guilds that help their guildies in other ways- I can't say he's doing or not doing something different than other guilds other than what Fool did long ago with premium, but I can say no other guild has alot of trash talk(from what guilds I've been in), or alot of drama surrounding them(even scone doesn't have as much drama surrounding them), THAT in itself is probably not helpful
May 02, 2016 00:46Cowboy
Nice Observation, mainly Fiction at best but Nicely written! Until you walked even a step in my shoes Don't judge me!

I give ALL to my members even as much as the snail bux for monthly bot-checks! So DO NOT judge me!

This entire Thread was meant as a "Warning" to other Guilds,,,
May 02, 2016 00:48Your Wickedness
Nobody judged you- And that is the exact drama I am talking about though, going on defense at anything said and so forth, the actions in which you and your guild take in the community is heavy upon your guild and can help ppl in not helping out and so forth
May 02, 2016 00:54DivineCoffeeBinge
See, Cowboy, when I say "I don't know, maybe he thinks X" and you respond in that fashion it makes me think you're being a wee bit over-defensive, man. I know precisely nothing about how you treat the members of your guild (I've never been a fan of the "my members" construction, it makes them sound less like people and more like objects, but that's a strictly personal observation). You could be the Amaranthine Mother Theresa for all I know. The fact that I don't know is *part of the point of my post.* I'm not judging you - I'm in fact pointing out how I don't want to judge anyone without more info - and the way you leapt, nay pole-vaulted, to the conclusion you did is... fairly ridiculous, man.

Good on you for treating guild members right, though, that's cool.

Re: Your Wickedness - oh, don't worry, I'm sure we'll manage to take first prize in the Drama Races again soon enough. We're not scone anymore, though, the day of the has dawned.
May 02, 2016 02:08Charles Bukowski
I think this is very funny
May 02, 2016 02:40Londoe Black
"Cowboy: But in General, brings out the "Intentions" and "Worthiness" of the Guild & it's Owners,,,or the lack there of!"

As the owner/leader of the guild in question, I have somehow come under attack from cowboy in a public forum. I really expected better from cowboy. All I can say is, I'm very disappointed with his actions. After sending him a very diplomatic explanation and asking for a reply in messages, not in a public forum. I just don't know what to say about this.

pixaal fucked around with this message at 01:23 on May 4, 2016

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Mr.PayDay posted:

Are the Bonus Perks worth it?
-3 Minimum Timer for 1 Hour is the most expensive one and costs 150 snail bucks = 12 $ for ONE hour ?!
What does this perk do?

It gives it to everyone in the entire game, you'll get a reasonable number from pubbies. -3min timer brings the min timer from 20 to 17, you'll still need other buffs to get your timer that low, likely a combo of spells and food.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Mr.PayDay posted:

I'm in :) So I can extend my farming and gathering Autism from WoW into his afk browser game and will focus on gathering, wood cutting, fishing and hiking I think. I am glad when others focus on prodiction, I am another Goon Peon then that collects the raw stuff.
Can I "play" this game just buy leverling all gathering skills Or do I need to be a lvl 8 tailor to lvl hiking 10 or sth like that?

You can specialize in a single skill, plenty of pubbies have done nothing but one thing for over 100 levels. Always do magic as well, since buffs are great and limited by mana which regenerates slowly. You may have to get someone to get you tools and other equipment as needed but full grinding that out yourself takes forever.

Only doing a crafting skill would be hard, but generating resources it's very easy to just get the tools you need from the guild and keep on trucking. You aren't leeching your getting us XP and materials. Take whatever you need from storage don't forget to get yourself a set of blue clothing for -12 to your timer.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


That would be game changing. Having themed days would be "a thing" it would promote people having multiple skills. Pubbies might follow our skill trains but that's okay we have more players so even more XP for us!

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Magres posted:

E: I am bad and wrong

editing my post then


Magres posted:

I'm almost positive he said it was fine before. It's complete crap to ban people without warning for using a script you said was fine because you've changed your mind (and changed your mind because your code is bad).

Suddenly I'm seeing why this game's community is trash.

A lot of games are not okay with you running 3rd party scripts of any kind. It's pretty common, mostly because you could make a script "mundane" and they throw a bot into it and everyone could go "oh I didn't know"!

pixaal fucked around with this message at 19:33 on May 8, 2016

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


The Shortest Path posted:

There isn't actually anything in the rules about that, so I have to wonder.

Stealing is wrong! You should just know not to do it!

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


XP spreadsheet (fishing/speed/gathering/magic/mining/woodcutting/alchemy)

I made a sheet that you just paste your skill XP into and it will tell you how much XP/hr you will get I used all publicly posted base timers, If you have some more please help me with that, you can get it by filling in your gear minus timer, and your level and then playing with the base timer until the actual timer is correct (give me the base timer so I can have it next update)

I want this to be as good as we can get it, so please give actual feedback, especially how useful it would be to actually finish off the crafting side since I'm not if that is more a supply issue than figuring out what to sit down and grind.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


RabbitWizard posted:

I think i mentioned this before, but: This is a nice game with nice people playing. Be nice. Grumpy doesn't have rules against all the variations of being an rear end in a top hat in a game, because there were no assholes before. Let's keep it that way!

No spying or infiltrations or robberies or scamming or whatever, Grumpy doesn't need a clearly defined rule to ban someone and i quite like it that way.

Yes, we've been pretty much not huge assholes, the community provides comedy just by self melting down. We don't need to be huge hated assholes it's funnier if we are just nice people that occasionally poke a racist homophobe and have him go on rants that would embarrass even your racist grandfather.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Beta UI just got an overhaul, takes a bit to get used to but I think overall it gives you more information quicker.

Buttons look a little Fisher Price, but hey it works.


Spell casting UI is a very good UI

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


AnimalChin posted:

I couldn't find this information anywhere.

That was a joke post, there is no such thing as a raid in this game.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Yeah it's completely unrealistic for goons to pay attention or even post about what they are clearing, and I'm serious. We joined this game mostly from "idle games" thread. We want to just lazily play it and have a small commitment to some greater good. It scratches that MMO itch without being a massive drama filled time sink. I mean there is pubbie drama if you want to enjoy that but the guild is pretty drama free. I mean we have a list for who gets the first pink Windfury, but like that's going to happen.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


We're going to help keep new players instead of the previous average of oh almost never because you couldn't chat until level 2. I remember mentioning it in chat and Grumpy said "good point! I'll remove it" immediately followed by pubbies clearly responding to me going no that's stupid and Grumpy will never do that.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


XP time to Level Google Doc v0.6.0

I updated the sheet so you can copy and paste XP because that changed in the new beta UI. New method uses the manual, so you don't need to use the beta UI anymore! I also Added Tailoring for everything that isn't an armor craft. Armor crafting under 30 is added (well I don't have base timer information).

I know people are using this sheet but I don't get much feedback, so if you want it to work better I could use any base timers you have updated in your local copies. I'm also open additional functionality requests. One thing I think I'm going to need is support for timers per island or equipment sets (spear fishing vs rod fishing) this could get complicated and how I would need to break down the sets will vary by skill most likely so I'll need feedback from users.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


The Shortest Path posted:

I'm full on a bunch of bonuses and they're all totally worthless for what I'm currently doing (making bota bags), should I keep plugging or switch to something else, and if so what do we need right now?

EDIT: Also does 10% double drops work on crafting or just gathering?

Double drops work on crafting, you should be using double drops as it gives double the XP (and uses double the mats). You can think of it as "10% timer reduction".

Switch tasks to something that can make use of them and burn them down to 18 each if you can't find something even get a minor that will benefit you from your current skill focus. Letting the pubbie donations rot is just a crime.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


insanityv2 posted:

nope all it did was push errors to desktop. i missed it blacklisting amar on everything in my tampermonkey library.

Apparently Amar has a global check that pushes uncaught exceptions in the Amar window back to Grumpy's error logs. So if your script has any imperfections, its a problem, even if its not for/doesn't affect amar at all.

So entire browser window, or just the tab? If its the full window he might be breaking some laws.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


MooCowlian posted:

You can run it in the background while raiding or whatever for more efficient MMO itch scratching.

You can do this too if you want to full sperg.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Y'all want some sweat :tea?:

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Basically unless you are gathering extensions do nothing for you. You can share them out, if people need extra, but I don't think we're lacking on them enough that you need to just make a ton. I haven't made a single one, it's not really needed since you can have 50 houses per town with several extensions each and you still need to do actions to collect the stuff.

Mid level fishing also uses them, but we have some guild ones that can be shared out of crabs and lobsters if you go that route.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Marxalot posted:

Yeah but the chat was clogged with random chatter and it would have been really boring unless I spent 30min cutting all of the bullshit out in paint.

More like saving the game :smug:

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


No his words were using quotes for bold so it looked like

I'm "sorry" to cone/bird for any "wrongs" I did.

He then argued that he's not going to change how he types and we need to just learn that's how he does it. No buddy you need to learn that is like doing air quotes, if you do that in real life you are going to get stabbed.

what he wanted to do exactly was just let everything slide and have him forgive us like Jesus. I don't have a problem letting his past actions go, he's already hosed it up again! Let him ruin his clean start that he wants. Maybe we can get something out of it if we're friendly for a bit.

pixaal fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Jun 28, 2016

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Tim has some new scripture: The Holiest day is July 7th, the day we ate of his flesh.
Grumpy is his holy brother (not necessarily literally)

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


nah if I remember right he kept writing it bookay or something really stupid.

e: I don't think he ever did look up Tom Lehrer's Masochism Tango . Hinting too much on how to find something is a mute for getting around linking rules. Oh well, I always felt he should have left the thorns in and channeled Tom. (not to be confused with our lord Tim)

pixaal fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Jul 9, 2016

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pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Ratzap posted:

Cherries seem to be the bottleneck more than the rest. 5 per pie and I think they come from extensions?

In a perfect world yes you would need the most people farming cherries to make the pies, we just never have people make the crust because it's not the best XP. There is a better easier crust recipe higher up, and Grumpy has said he liked the idea of the next "better" food also being a pie and having a better pie crust for islands 2/3.

This might not happen though because well, Grumpy is known to just do what he thinks is cool and good. Island 2 is pretty fish heavy so I hope we get fish head pie :3:

e: I also think we are heavily lacking cooks, especially at the low XP level.

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