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Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters
Marvel is All New and also All Different in 2016. Everything got put back together after SECRET WARS and is pretty much like it was before SECRET WARS except some people from other universes are in the "main" (no longer designated 616 according to Tom Brevoort) Marvel Universe. There is also still a multiverse, created by the Future Foundation off in otherspace. Wondering what's being published right now?

PART ONE: MARVEL'S THE AVENGERS

There are a lot of Avengers books, seeing as it is a very popular film franchise. The Avengers will all be knee-deep in CIVIL WAR 2, coming this summer. There should probably be a separate thread for that. There is currently a STANDOFF mini-event going on. There are essentially five Avengers ongoings:


All-New All-Different Avengers (Mark Waid & Adam Kubert/Mahmud Asrar): The most traditional "Avengers" crew starring Iron Man, Thor, Captain America, Vision, Nova, Ms. Marvel, and (Miles Morales) Spider-Man. They are based out of New York and fight Avengers foes like Kang.

New Avengers (Al Ewing & Gerardo Sandoval): The New Avengers are funded by Sunspot and based out of AIM Island, a status quo spinning out of Hickman's uber-Avengers run. The team consists of Sunspot, Hulkling, Wiccan, Squirrel Girl, Pod, Songbird, and secret SHIELD mole Hawkeye who admitted to the team he was a mole in his first panel. The primary antagonist of the series is Ultimate Reed Richards, aka The Maker.

Uncanny Avengers (Gerry Duggan & Ryan Stegman): Deadpool is now an incredibly popular and wealthy celebrity within the fictive world, and has launched his own Avengers (aka The Unity Avengers) to atone for past sins. He leads the team alongside Spider-Man, Human Torch, Steve Rogers, Rogue, Quicksilver, Doctor Voodoo, Synapse, and sometimes Cable. Their primary goal is to track down the clone of the Red Skull who stole Professor Xavier's brain from Rick Remender's Uncanny Avengers/AXIS storyline.

A-Force (Kelly Thompson & Ben Caldwell): A mysterious person named Singularity was in the Secret Wars A-Force book, and has arrived in the current MU looking for her friends (Medusa, She-Hulk, Captain Marvel, Nico Minoru, Dazzler) from Battleworld, except none of them remember her or being friends with each other because of SECRET WARS. They're learning to become a team.

Ultimates (Al Ewing & Kenneth Rocafort): Closer in spirit to Fantastic Four than Avengers, and no direct connection to the Ultimate Universe. A team of scientists and cosmic powers (Blue Marvel, Black Panther, Monica Rambeau, Miss America Chavez, Captain Marvel) who are trying to do Big Things like "fix" Galactus and explore the outer reaches of the new multiverse.

PART TWO: LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE AVENGERS RIGHT NOW HAVE THEIR OWN BOOKS
Most of these are standalone books, outside of some cross-book references writers (Ewing, Duggan) are making between their own books.

Invincible Iron Man (Brian Michael Bendis & David Marquez): Tony Stark is trying to get his life together after [insert events of the past ten years], featuring Mary Jane Watson and a reformed (and no longer disfigured) Doctor Doom as his supporting cast.

International Iron Man (Brian Michael Bendis & Alex Maleev): A second Iron Man ongoing that just started, seems like it will be focusing on Iron Man's past while showing his efforts to deal with the revelation from Kieron Gillen's run that Tony is adopted. Most of the first issue took place "twenty years ago" but still has references to smartphones and "googling" people, leading some to believe this is a very subtle way of continuing Bendis's haphazard "time is broken" runner of recent years.

Captain America: Sam Wilson (Nick Spencer & Daniel Acuna/Angel Unzueta): A continuation of Spencer's run pre-SW, Sam WIlson is still Captain America, but he's on the outs with Steve Rogers and SHIELD. He's still friends with Misty Knight, D-Man, and Redwing (who is a vampire bird now) and also has found a new Falcon who is an illegal immigrant experimented on by the evil newly reformed corporate consulting group The Serpent Society who murder under-performing executives because Political Commentary.

The Mighty Thor (Jason Aaron & Russell Dauterman): A direct continuation of Aaron's long Thor run. Readers now know that Jane Foster is the new Thor, nobody in the book knows it yet, Loki is back as a supporting cast member.

Captain Marvel (Tara Butters/Michele Fazekas & Kris Anka): In addition to being part of A-Force and the Ultimates, Carol Danvers is also now the leader of Alpha Flight! Alpha Flight is now in outer space! It makes sense, "flight" is right there in the name. Puck and Sasquatch and them are still in Alpha Flight and comprise the supporting cast.

Deadpool (Gerry Duggan & Lots of Different People): A direct continuation of Duggan's last Deadpool run, he's used his newfound fame and fortune to hire a bunch of (hypothetically) familiar faces like Solo, Madcap, Terror Inc, Stingray, Foolkiller, and Slapstick to be surrogate Deadpools. Probably a bit much to jump into if you hadn't read any of Duggan's previous Deadpool run, but it's all worth reading.

Ms. Marvel (G. Willow Wilson & Adrian Alphona/Takeshi Miyazawa): Also a direct continuation of pre-SW Ms. Marvel. She's still in Jersey City, still excited to meet other superheroes, and facing the sinister forces of gentrification and family weddings.

Nova (Sean Ryan & Cory Smith/RB SIlva): Nova's dad is back. I don't know much else about this book.

Vision (Tom King & Gabriel Hernandez Walla): Basically a suburban horror story starring the Vision (who has excised his emotions or his memory or his emotions attached to his memory depending on which book you read) so he doesn't bear a great deal of resemblance to The Vision, but nevertheless is a compelling fan favorite title. Will be ending after twelve issues because Tom King signed a DC exclusive.

All-New Hawkeye (Jeff Lemire & Ramon Perez/Jeff Lemire): Still starring both Clint Barton and Kate Bishop, the first arc is jumping back and forth between the present day, Clint and Kate's childhoods, and decades into the future. More somber and reflective than Fraction's Hawkguy.

Continued Next Post!

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Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters
PART THREE: PEOPLE WHO ARE TRADITIONAL/MOVIE AVENGERS BUT NOT IN THE CURRENT AVENGERS BOOKS
Unless otherwise noted, all of these are standalones so far.


Black Widow (Mark Waid & Chris Samnee): The same creative team that just wrapped up Daredevil jumps over here and based on the first issue (essentially a 20 page chase scene) is going to ratchet up the action level for this series.

Scarlet Witch (James Robinson & They Can't Decide): Wanda decides to take some "me" time in a book inspired by the tone of Fraction/Aja's Hawkeye. Something is wrong with witchcraft (see: Doctor Strange) and Wanda is travelling the globe trying to fix it.

Astonishing Ant-Man (Nick Spencer & Mark Brooks): A direct continuation of pre-SW Ant-Man. He's still in Florida trying to run a security company and not getting along with his ex-wife and hanging out with Grizzly and sassy gay robot Machinesmith, but now it turns out he's in jail and also punched Paul Scheer for some reason. The book may eventually reveal why he is in jail at the start of the first issue, but so far nothing.

The Totally Awesome Hulk (Greg Pak and Amadeus Cho): Amadeus Cho is now the Hulk. He flies around in a food truck with his sister trying to stop monsters. The whys and wherefores of how this came to be and where Bruce Banner is are slowly being doled out.

Hercules (Dan Abnett & Luke Ross): Someone is killing the Old Gods, Hercules is living in Brooklyn trying to figure out why. Ending with Issue 6 but getting replaced with a Civil War II tie-in mini

Agents of SHIELD (Marc Guggenheim & Various): The cast of the TV show, focusing on Coulson. The first arc is about Coulson pulling a Batman from Tower of Babel and dreaming (literally) dreaming of ways to take down superheroes, and a psychic girlfriend stealing his dreams.

PART FOUR: THE GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY IS ALSO A POPULAR MOVIE


Guardians of the Galaxy (Brian Michael Bendis & Valero Schitti): A direct continuation of the previous run, Kitty Pryde is the new Starlord and the Thing has joined the team.

Starlord (Sam Humphries & Javier Garron): Mostly focusing on Starlord's formative years and trying to piece together a coherent narrative from the like, six different Starlord backstories scattered across comics and the film. Unknown fate after Humphries signed a DC exclusive.

Rocket Raccoon & Groot (Skottie Young & Felipe Andrae): Essentially a buddy comedy from the writer of the pre-SW Rocket Raccoon series.

Drax: (CM Punk & Cullen Bunn & Scott Hepburn): Drax gets bored hanging out with his team and goes off to try to kill Thanos, instead getting mixed up with some sort of Bloodsport/UFC plotline in space involving Terrax and Fin Fang Foom.

Guardians of Infinity (Dan Abnett & Carlo Barberi): A team of "Guardians" from the year 3000 run into a group from the year 20(16) and also from the year 1000. I only read the back-up to the first issue which was about Ben Grimm delivering Dusty Rhodes's "Hard Times" speech.

Venom: Spaceknight (Robbie Thompson and Ariel Olivetti): GoTG member Venom (Flash Thompson) is out in space, going to space-AA meetings, saving planets, and meeting owl ladies with rude rear end mammalian titties. That's all I remember from the first two issues.

Angela: Queen of Hel (Marguerite Bennet & Stephanie Hans): A direct continuation of the pre-SW book, haven't read it but it sounds like she's the Queen of Hel. Ending at Issue 7

Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Mar 23, 2016

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters
PART FIVE: THESE PEOPLE ARE ALSO MARVEL SUPERHEROES

Daredevil (Charles Soule & Ron Garney): Daredevil is back in New York, and his identity is secret through methods not yet revealed. He works as a prosecutor, and has taken on an apprentice.

Doctor Strange (Jason Aaron & Chris Bachalo): Doctor Strange is facing THE EMPIRIKUL, a villain who aims to destroy all magic. This is pretty much a recreation of the first year of his Thor run, where a villain aimed to destroy all gods. Your patience for the quirks of Aaron and Bachalo (both very talented, both full of tics) will probably dictate how much you love this book.

Power Man & Iron Fist (David Walker & Sanford Greene): They're not a team again, except they are a team again! The first couple of issues have leaned a little hard on the "ha ha, mismatched friends annoy each other in a bromance/frenemies mashup" but the art is great and Walker is going deep to try to revamp 'classic' villains like Black Mariah, Cockroach Hamilton, and the Headmen.

Silver Surfer (Dan Slott & Mike Allred): A direct continuation of the pre-SW book by the same team. Rhyno does not need to tell you why he does not like it.

Howard the Duck (Chip Zdarsky & Joe Quinones)Also a direct continuation of the previous book by the same team. They still haven't fully resolved him getting a new hat. UPDATE: He did get a new hat.

The Unbeatable Squirrel Girl (Ryan North & Erica Henderson): DIrect... previous... same team. Crossing over with Howard the Duck next month.

Weirdworld (Sam Humphries & Mike Del Mundo): NOT a direct continuation, but the same setting as the Secret Wars Weirdworld, with the same sweet art from del Mundo and the same setting, but all new protagonists. Should be selling better, and its fate is unknown since Humphries is getting Rebirthed at DC.

Squadron Supreme (James Robinson & Leonard Kirk): The legacy of a bunch of different Squadrons Supremes gets even more confusing in this very James Robinson-y legacy-lovin' book. A bunch of lone survivors from pre-SW worlds find themselves in the main universe, intent on getting revenge against the Illuminati/Cabal members who blew up their old Earths. They decapitate Namor (and less noted, teleport Atlantis to the desert and blow it up, presumably killing millions) to let everyone know They Mean Business, then immediately get sidetracked by going to Weirdworld and fighting a reborn DOCTOR DRUID MAKING EXPLICIT REFERENCE TO GETTING KILLED, CRAMMED INTO A DUMPSTER AND LIT ON FIRE BY WARREN ELLIS and doing stuff that sort of sidelines the book's reason for existence after like two issues.

Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur (Amy Reeder/Brandon Montclare & Natacha Bustos): Moon Girl is a smart young woman in contemporary New York who ends up bringing Devil DInosaur to the present day and befriending him. Probably not long for the world, saleswise.

Starbrand & Nightmask (Greg Weisman & Dominke Stanton: The former New Universe concepts that Hickman brought in for his Avengers run go to college! I have not read any of this. Probably not long for the world, saleswise.

Illuminati (Josh Williamson & Shawn Crystal): The Hood brings together a group of reluctant supervillains (Titania, Thunderball, Mad Thinker, Enchantress, Black Ant) for mysterious reasons. Kind of a reverse Thunderbolts, I guess?

Howling Commandos of SHIELD (Frank Barbiere & Bren Schoonover): The unkillable LMD of Dum Dum Duggan leads a team of Mummies and Wolfmans and Draculas for SHIELD. Canceled after six issues.

Red Wolf (Nathan Edmondson & Dalibor Talajic): Sherrif Red Wolf from the SW mini-series 1872 is teleported to the modern day, is involved with crimefighting and also being lost in time and stuff. Possibly already canceled.

Black Knight (Frank Tieri & Luca Pizzari): Not even a love of Black Knight from Stern-era Avengers could get me to pick up a Frank "Fuckin" Tieri book. A common sentiment apparently, as this was canceled after five issues.

Contest of Champions (Al Ewing & Paco Medina): A weird mishmash of follow-ups to Secret Wars, a free-to-play mobile game of the same name, movie tie-ins, and deep-diving into forgotten 1990s characters that still works somehow. The Maestro and The Collector have teams of heroes from across the multiverse, fighting to the death for a magic globe. Again, this actually works as a book.

Mockingbird (Chelsea Cain & Kate Niemczyk): Mockingbird is sometimes an Avenger and sometimes a SHIELD agent and maybe is developing superpowers? Written by one of Chuck Palahniuk's friends who appears in the Fight Club 2 comic and once that connection was made in my head I have a hard time separating the two books.

Patsy Walker aka Hellcat (Kate Leth & Britteny Williams): Patsy Walker is a young woman in Brooklyn, doing wacky stuff with her wacky friends.

Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Mar 23, 2016

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters
PART SIX: SPIDER-MAN HAS LOTS OF SPIDER-MANS, SOME OF THEM ARE WOMEN, THEY ALSO HAVE THEIR OWN THREAD
Very brief here, since there really is a separate thread.

Amazing Spider-Man (Dan Slott & Various): Peter Parker is a billionaire globetrotting playboy. He's fighting ZODIAC (not Ted Cruz), opinions differ wildly on this book.
Spidey (Robbie Thompson & Nick Bradshaw): Hypothetically fully-in-continuity stories of a young Peter Parker in high school, fighting his classic villains.
Spider-Man/Deadpool (Joe Kelly & Ed McGuinness: Spider-Man and Deadpool bond while Deadpool considers accepting a contract to murder Peter Parker, billionaire globetrotting playboy who allegedly has done some terrible business-things.
Web Warriors (Mike Costa & David Baldeon): All your favorite (okay, some of your favorite) Spider-Mans and Spider-Womans do a cross-dimensional team-up. Some sort of follow-up to Spiderverse (the mainline MU event) and Spiderverse (the Secret Wars book) from last year.
Spider-Man (Brian Michael Bendis & Sara Pichelli): Miles gave Molecule Man a hamburger so not only did he and all his friends get spared the death of the Ultimate Universe, he also got his mom back from the dead. More or less a direct continuation of the previous run.
Spider-Man 2099 (Peter David & Will Sliney): Honestly I haven't read an issue of this or the previous run, but given that it's Peter David I assume that it all ties together going back to the 1992 red holofoil #1.
Carnage (Gerry Conway & Mike Perkins): Not an attempt to rehabilitate Carnage, more a book where he is the Monster and a military group (ft. John Jameson and Eddie Brock) are trying to keep him from murdering literally everyone.

SO FAR THESE THREE BOOKS ARE STANDALONE BUT WILL BE CROSSING OVER IN A "SPIDER-WOMEN" MINI-EVENT SOON
Spider-Gwen (Jason Latour & Robbi Rodriguez): A direct continuation of the pre-SW series, Spider-Gwen follows Gwen Stacy in another dimension where she got bit by the radioactive spider instead.
Silk (Robbie Thompson & Tana Ford): Another direct continuation, Silk is working for J Jonah Jameson's TV show and also going undercover as Black Cat's enforcer because she's still trying to figure out what happened to her family.
Spider-Woman (Dennis Hopeless & Javier Rodriguez): Spider-Woman is still avoiding Avengers life and doing PI work with Ben Urich and Porcupine as her partners. Recently had a baby.

PART SEVEN: THE X-MEN ALSO HAVE THEIR OWN THREAD, STILL EXIST
The main X-Books are about to jump into a mini-event called APOCALYPSE WARS but it is explicitly modeled after Fall of the Mutants, where the indication is that each one will have a standalone arc focused on an Apocalypse-themed conflict and any connection between the books will be shading, not a direct book-to-book narrative.

All New X-Men (Dennis Hopeless & Mark Bagely): The original teen X-Men are still in the present, and they're all (minus Jean Grey) globetrotting in a van, trying to find themselves. (All-New) Wolverine, Idie, and Evan/Kid Apocalypse are also in the van. They seem to be running into a lot of the very early X-Men villains (Blob, Toad) all grown up now.
Extraordinary X-Men (Jeff Lemire & Humberto Ramos): The most traditional X-Book, and so naturally perhaps the most confusing. X-Men are basically living in Limbo now because X-POX or whatever, the team is primarily Storm, Colossus, Magik, Nightcrawler, (teen) Jean Grey, (adult) Iceman, and (Old Man) Wolverine. Also fan favorites like Anole and Rockslide wander through, sometimes getting sent into the future and aging into old versions of themselves?
Uncanny X-Men (Cullen Bunn & Greg Land): Magneto is back (again) and basing himself in the ruins of Genosha (again) and defending mutants from X-POX and pretty much everything else. His team is Psylocke, (adult) Angel, Mystique, (still brainwashed to be good) Sabretooth, M, and Fantomex. They're fighting the DARK RIDERS, aka RIDERS ON THE STORM, aka Apocalypse's C-Squad, who are trying to murder any mutants with healing abilities because of Darwinism.
Old Man Logan (Jeff Lemire & Andrea Sorrentino): Old Man Logan (of Old Man Logan and Old Man Logan fame) is in the modern Marvel Universe, confused how he got here, and determined to kill everyone responsible for his dark future in 'our' present.
All-New Wolverine (Tom Taylor & David Lopez): Laura is trying to live up to her "Dad"'s example as the new Wolverine, and immediately uncovers someone trying to make clones of HER, giving her a perfect parental-figure opportunity.
X-Men '92 (Chris Sims/Chad Bowers & Aktu Firmansyah): Remember the X-Men cartoon from the 1990s? It's that, in a loving tribute/parody/I don't know what to call it.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters
PART EIGHT: WHO CARES ABOUT THE DUMB OL' X-MEN THOUGH, WHAT ABOUT THE INHUMANS?
Marvel is still pushing the Inhumans, though for all of the complaints about overpushing them, they have two ongoings and a third solo book that never comes out.


Uncanny Inhumans (Charles Soule & Steve McNiven/Brandon Peterson): More or less continues Soule's previous work before (and during) Secret Wars, focusing on Black Bolt, Medusa, Medusa's new boyfriend Johnny Storm, Beast, and about half of the new Inhumans introduced lately.

All-New Inhumans (James Asmus & Stefano Caselli): Crystal, Gorgon, and the other half of the new Inhumans introduced lately travel the globe as ambassadors for the Inhumans and to get to the bottom of all those Inhuman mysteries that people keep introducing. Like what are Skyspires? Nobody knows! They'll probably find out.

Karnak (Warren Ellis & Gerardo Zaffino/Someone Else I Guess): What if Karnak left the Inhumans and became a right hard bastard who is only as big a bastard as he has to be to out-bastard even bigger bastards doing Weird stuff on the Weird fringe? This is a Warren Ellis comic, and like many Warren Ellis comics it has been significantly delayed, but it's not his fault, it's the artist's.

PART NINE: THESE BOOKS AREN'T EVEN OUT YET SO WHO KNOWS WHAT AWAITS?
Black Panther (Ta-Nahesi Coates & Brian Stelfreeze): Coming April 2016. TNC, fresh off his guest starring role on Black-ish brings his Marvel stanning to the next level.
Captain America: Steve Rogers (Nick Spencer & Jesus Saiz): Coming in May 2016. Steve Rogers is going to get young again and start being Captain America in a month or two, and maybe he'll be making up with Sam Wilson?
Hyperion (Chuck Wendig & Nik Virella): Coming in March. Apparently the same Hyperion that is in Squadron Supreme, not any of the other ones running around, and *probably* the one from Hickman's Avengers, who is *probably* the one from the old Gruenwald stuff, maybe?
Moon Knight (Jeff Lemire & Greg Smallwood): Coming in April. Starts with Moon Knight in an asylum apparently.
Nighthawk (David Walker & Brandon Schultz): Coming in May. This is the Nighthawk from the JMS "Supreme Power" series who is also in the current SS book. It's going to be "noir tinged" according to advanced press.
Punisher (Becky Cloonan & Steve Dillon): Coming in May. Who'd have guessed that THE PUNISHER would get a female as a regular writer ahead of Iron Man, Captain America, Green Lantern, the Flash, etc?
Thunderbolts (Jim Zub & Jon Malin): Coming in May. Spinning out of the events of AVENGERS STANDOFF: ASSAULT ON PLEASANT HILL, with a team of Bucky and a lot of the original Thunderbolts.

They probably announced some more books this weekend! IT'S AN ANAD DAY, YES IT IS.

Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Mar 21, 2016

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


I like when Deadpool shoots people and says funny things.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Lurdiak posted:

I like when Deadpool shoots people and says funny things.

But why do you like it?

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


It reminds me of when I shoot people and say unfunny things.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

That is a good rear end OP.

Rhyno posted:

But why do you like it?

No. Move on.


The books that I'm most looking forward to are Black Panther, Hyperion, and now I guess Nighthawk based on how much I enjoy Walker's new Power Man and Iron Fist. I'm not that big a fan of this incarnation of Nighthawk but I also saw a cover I think of him fighting the actual 616/Main Universe Nighthawk who I had thought they were just going to sweep under the rug and now I'm curious to see how that will go down.


The new books I remember hearing announced were Vote Loki, Gwenpool, and Mercs for Money is now going to be an ongoing (for maybe two arcs max before cancellation).

X-O fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Mar 21, 2016

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
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X-O posted:

No. Move on.

If I'm gonna get a call out in the OP I get to poke fun.

burnishedfume
Mar 8, 2011

You really are a louse...
I liked Deadpool before he became famous.

I just don't think starting a mercenary band/agency was a good move, it fills the book with a supporting cast that's way too big and not particularly endearing.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
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DrProsek posted:

I liked Deadpool before he became famous.

I just don't think starting a mercenary band/agency was a good move, it fills the book with a supporting cast that's way too big and not particularly endearing.

Ideally the Merc business will be pushed into the spinoff entirely and the main series will continue on with Wade's search for answers/revenge. But to be fair, the previous run was doing similar things with a larger cast, he just hadn't gotten to Avengers fame yet.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Captain Marvel is on a Wolverine number of teams.

ElNarez
Nov 4, 2009

Edge & Christian posted:

Howard the Duck (Chip Zdarsky & Joe Quinones)Also a direct continuation of the previous book by the same team. They still haven't fully resolved him getting a new hat.

No it resolved that. He bought a "Pobody's Nerfect in Florida" baseball cap at a truck stop on his way to the Nexus of All Realities. Like you do.

Jiro
Jan 13, 2004

Fantastic op E&C. How long is Vision's run supposed to last? Is it ongoing or a finite series?

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
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Jiro posted:

Fantastic op E&C. How long is Vision's run supposed to last? Is it ongoing or a finite series?

Well King just signed a deal taking him back to DC and said his Vision series has a definite end, I think he said 9 issues?

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Better a limited run of great quality than a neverending one that peters out and has to be put down.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
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SynthOrange posted:

Better a limited run of great quality than a neverending one that peters out and has to be put down.

I tend to agree but it's been such a great book that I want to see it run long.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters
It's mentioned in my initial post, but King went on record that he would be finishing up the story he planned in twelve issues. Here's him saying it on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/TomKingTK/status/700425348052168708

SirDan3k
Jan 6, 2001

Trust me, you are taking this a lot more seriously then I am.
Am I the only one that hopes Vision doesn't make it out of the series and one of his kids takes the mantle?

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
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SirDan3k posted:

Am I the only one that hopes Vision doesn't make it out of the series and one of his kids takes the mantle?

Would they do that? We've already had a Vision replacement and they sort of bent over backwards to restore the original.

burnishedfume
Mar 8, 2011

You really are a louse...

Rhyno posted:

Ideally the Merc business will be pushed into the spinoff entirely and the main series will continue on with Wade's search for answers/revenge. But to be fair, the previous run was doing similar things with a larger cast, he just hadn't gotten to Avengers fame yet.

True, he had a bigger cast pre-SW, but I just felt like that cast had more relevance to Deadpool and I could care about them easier than the assortment of miscellaneous characters that now work for Deadpool. But if they spin off into Mercs for Money and Deadpool stays all about Deadpool then I've got everything I wanted.

Aphrodite posted:

Captain Marvel is on a Wolverine number of teams.

Almost makes you think they're getting ready for a Captain Marvel movie or something :haw: (in 2019. We swear this time. Maybe.)

SirDan3k
Jan 6, 2001

Trust me, you are taking this a lot more seriously then I am.

Rhyno posted:

Would they do that? We've already had a Vision replacement and they sort of bent over backwards to restore the original.

I am aware it's a fool hope, but Vivi might just pull it off if Vision takes the rap, goes to jail and sends his daughter to the only people he trusts, The Avengers.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
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SirDan3k posted:

I am aware it's a fool hope, but Vivi might just pull it off if Vision takes the rap, goes to jail and sends his daughter to the only people he trusts, The Avengers.

Oh see that's different. And it would work well with that Waid is doing over there.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Secret Wars hardcover only changes the order of events in issue 7: First three pages are the same, with Maximus revealed to be the Prophet, and Doom summoning the Thors. From there the hardcover shows Reed talking to T'Challa, and T'Challa releasing the zombies. The comic shows Sinister betraying the Goblin Queen, the battle amongst Thors, and Maestro's arrival first.

Issue 8 begins with more Hulk stuff, so it flows better. Ending 7 with the zombie reveal works for the monthly, but the way the hardcover makes 7, 8, and 9 into one chapter, you're not worrying about cliffhangers.

Sentinel Red
Nov 13, 2007
Style > Content.

SirDan3k posted:

Am I the only one that hopes Vision doesn't make it out of the series and one of his kids takes the mantle?

I for one welcome our new neurotic, slightly homicidal Soccer Mom Vision. Not even kidding here, she's fantastic, it's like someone gave Allison from Orphan Black super powers.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Good OP, goddamn that's a lot of loving books

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



This mostly reminds me how many Marvel books I'm not reading and how many I started but dropped.

I kinda feel like ANAD Marvel is the exact opposite of AN Marvel for me.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
When is Punisher supposed to launch?

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
It took me like, 30 issues to be sure I hated the last Punisher run, hopefully I can work it out quick this time.

edit: I looked it up and there were only 20. With all the "Frank gets captured, but then escapes but then gets captured" one loses track of these things.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Endless Mike posted:

This mostly reminds me how many Marvel books I'm not reading and how many I started but dropped.

I kinda feel like ANAD Marvel is the exact opposite of AN Marvel for me.

Yeah, I started a bunch of books but the only ones I still care about are Vision and Karnak.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



muscles like this? posted:

Yeah, I started a bunch of books but the only ones I still care about are Vision and Karnak.
Let's see:

Invincible Iron Man
International Iron Man
Ms. Marvel
Vision
Black Widow
Doctor Strange
Power Man and Iron Fist
Howard the Duck
Unbeatable Squirrel Girl
Patsy Walker, A.K.A. Hellcat!
Spider-Man
X-Men '92 (when it starts)
Karnak
Black Panther (when it starts)
Moon Knight (when it starts)

That's more than I thought, honestly, though a bunch of those have one issue so far, aren't actually out, or barely come out.

Dragonshirt
Oct 28, 2010

a sight for sore eyes
Whatever happened to the new Blade book?

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Dragonshirt posted:

Whatever happened to the new Blade book?

Delayed several times, it's still coming though.

PaybackJack
May 21, 2003

You'll hit your head and say: 'Boy, how stupid could I have been. A moron could've figured this out. I must be a real dimwit. A pathetic nimnal. A wretched idiotic excuse for a human being for not having figured these simple puzzles out in the first place...As usual, you've been a real pantload!

LordPants posted:

It took me like, 30 issues to be sure I hated the last Punisher run, hopefully I can work it out quick this time.

edit: I looked it up and there were only 20. With all the "Frank gets captured, but then escapes but then gets captured" one loses track of these things.

I'm so sad that Rachel-Cole Alves didn't get a bigger push as "female Punisher". Rucka did such a nice job building her up. With Marvel doing a big push to get other races/genders into the mantle of their popular guys I was surprised there was nothing announced for her coming out of the ANAD wave of books.

Awesome Andy
Feb 18, 2007

All the spoils of a wasted life
I really like how the vision is basically an episode of the outer limits, twelve issues should be enough to tell a good story.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
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PaybackJack posted:

I'm so sad that Rachel-Cole Alves didn't get a bigger push as "female Punisher". Rucka did such a nice job building her up. With Marvel doing a big push to get other races/genders into the mantle of their popular guys I was surprised there was nothing announced for her coming out of the ANAD wave of books.

Marvel pretty much wants to ignore Rucka's run don't they? It ended with Frank in an underwater prison, did they even mention that when they relaunched the book?

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

PaybackJack posted:

I'm so sad that Rachel-Cole Alves didn't get a bigger push as "female Punisher". Rucka did such a nice job building her up. With Marvel doing a big push to get other races/genders into the mantle of their popular guys I was surprised there was nothing announced for her coming out of the ANAD wave of books.

That does seem like an odd omission.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters
I think part of the issue is that honestly outside of the Garth Ennis run (which probably doesn't fit into their transmedia plans), Marvel hasn't had a Big Definitive Baseline Punisher run in decades. None of his movies have really been successful, and none of the non-Ennis runs (from Avenging Angel to Wacky Quipster to Supervillain Gadget Assassin to Frankencastle to Punished Snake with Female Apprentice to Fascist Role Model with Female Apprentice) have really been the sort of Model Iconic Punisher they want to have. Everyone else they've given alternate versions (Spider-Man, Captain America, Thor, Iron Man, Wolverine, etc.) have those familiar touchstones (both in comics and TV/film) to use as a baseline. They're still trying to get Punisher version 1 "right". This seems to be their MO.

I haven't seen Daredevil season 2 yet so who knows how that might affect things.

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Jul 22, 2010

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Edge & Christian posted:

I haven't seen Daredevil season 2 yet so who knows how that might affect things.

There's elements people like or dislike but the world is basically united in its love for Jon Berenthal, Punisher

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