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Respecting someone's pronouns is literally the easiest thing to do in the world and there's no reason not to do it other than show disdain for the other person.
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People who use non-standard pronouns, no matter how esoteric, hurt absolutely no one by using them. Acknowledging those pronouns takes little to no effort and makes a world of difference to the people using them, so what's the point in refusing to?
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Mar 28, 2016 02:33
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the trump tutelage posted:What is the broader "goal" (for lack of a better word) of accommodating idiosyncratic gender expressions? What values are being promoted or reinforced? It's a pretty simple one : to help people feel comfortable in their own skin.
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Mar 28, 2016 03:54
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the trump tutelage posted:What are the limits of this? I would say up the point where such accomodations infringe on your or someone else's safety or well-being. So if someone's pronouns were a slur, or if you had a bomb strapped to your body that was wired to detonate if you said "xe", then sure, that seems like an appropriate situation to ignore their request, but outside of extreme circumstances like that, I can't think of any realistic limits.
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Mar 28, 2016 04:35
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the only arguments i ever see against neo-pronouns is "'they' already exists" "they're hard to remember", and "they're stupid", well: 1) "they" is perfectly suitable pronoun for most nonbinary people, but sometimes even that feels wrong for some others. nonbinary people aren't all the same so not all of them are gonna feel comfortable with the same things. 2) I've never seen a pronoun longer or more complicated than one syllable. Peopel are able to memorize entire texts. Putting the tiniest amount of effort into it you could memorize ten neo-pronouns in half an hour. 3) unless you're actively searching for them you're not going to find very many neo-pronoun users in your daily life. no one's forcing *you* to use these pronouns, just suck it up and respect the wishes of the maybe three people you might meet who use them.
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Mar 28, 2016 20:33
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This thread is a never-ending cycle of cis people making statements about trans people, trans people explaining to the cis people why they're wrong and the cis people ignoring them and then saying the same thing they said before. No one uses neo-pronouns to "feel special", at least not in the way goons tend to mean it (there's a lt to unpack there, but let's leave that for another time). They use them because those pronouns feel right for those individual people.It's not a feeling that can be quantified but its there and it's valid.
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Mar 29, 2016 00:42
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Frosted Flake posted:As an aside, what exactly does a xir do? I mean, why differentiate for a they? SwimmingSpider posted:They use them because those pronouns feel right for those individual people. SwimmingSpider fucked around with this message at 01:57 on Mar 29, 2016 |
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Mar 29, 2016 01:55
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transness already goes against societal norms in about a million ways, so im not sure why slgihty weird pronouns where you draw the line duder.
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Mar 29, 2016 02:21
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how does having a gender outside of the binary reinforce the binary.
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Mar 29, 2016 02:31
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For those asking, many of the non standard pronouns used today were coined back in the seventies. Not only that but gender neutral pronouns have been proposed by linguists going as far back as the 19th century. Its possible some have been made up more recently but there is a long running precedent.
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