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This thread doesn't seem very well thought out considering you don't seem to know the meaning of the words you're using.
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blowfish posted:What about genderfluid hipsters? In particular, genderfluid dragonkin/flowerkin transspecies hipsters who refer to themselves as "bloomself"? You're mixing up a bunch of different things here in order to smear one group of people. Nobody here is talking about furries or otherkin or whatever the gently caress, except you. And gently caress you if you think that has anything to do with people who are transgender.
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Mar 22, 2016 20:19
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Crowsbeak posted:I'm just telling it as it is. Sorry the world isn't exactly as you want it. But then the Rolling stones wrote this great song about this. Got any hot takes about race relations while you're in the mood to tell it like it is? 
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Mar 22, 2016 21:53
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Pictured: a person who is legally a woman using the womens' restroom. As this person is legally a woman, surely no one would object. Commie NedFlanders posted:I'm arguing in favor of other people in society, and suggesting that this effort to monopolize one's social presence is selfish and authoritarian. You are demanding that everyone else adjust to the identity you came up with in your head. For a fun game read this as referring to gay marriage. It's very easy.
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Mar 23, 2016 02:47
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Commie NedFlanders posted:It's like, I trust my Swedish friend when she gives her opinions as a Swede in America, but if someone born in Mexico decided they wanted to identify with Swedish identity, would it be wrong of me or my Swedish friend to reject their thoughts of America from a Swedish perspective? And yet when trans people speak about their experiences, better look out cause CommieNedFlanders has a theory and knows better than you!
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Mar 23, 2016 03:02
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Commie NedFlanders posted:if we weaken the inter-subjective network that holds us all together, you get people who are totally alienated from one another. Oh my god do you even hear yourself? This is the flimsiest faux-intellectual handwringing I've seen in a minute. This is a thing that people have to deal with every day, a physical, mental, and emotional health issue. And you telling trans people that we need to button down and shut up because of your very grave concerns about the inter-subjective network is dumb as all get out. 
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Mar 23, 2016 03:12
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Atasnaya Vaflja posted:You can't really appropriate from the cultures forcefully spreading and colonizing, can you? Oh you mean like cishetero normativity? 
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Mar 23, 2016 03:16
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Crowsbeak posted:The individual is a rather recent creation of the west. Oh for real, I'd be fascinated to see your sources for "Only Western Europeans are Individuals, or at least until we taught the Orient how to do it."
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Mar 23, 2016 03:29
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The Kingfish posted:Its only rude because xe people are looking to feel special. And you know this how?
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Mar 29, 2016 00:36
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rudatron posted:I cannot, nor am I interested in, creating an exhaustive list of the properties and behaviors that constitute a gender, both because it is irrelevant to my point, and only introduces more confusion. How does this jive with you saying that you'd call a lesbian woman a man if she wasn't wearing feminine clothes? It seems like thinking that's a good thing to do requires a pretty clear set of properties that you use to judge someone's gender. rudatron posted:Effectronica, you may think you can hide behind a reregister, but you cannot. Your mistake was posting in dadchat, because no one sane would register for dadchat. I recognize your kind of thinking. Can you please try to stay on topic? I don't know what this weird call out has to do with the topic of this thread.
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Mar 29, 2016 01:34
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Frosted Flake posted:I think "xir" is not being ridiculed only because a better alternative already exists. As a ridiculous word it draws attention to the absurdity of the whole concept. That in order to not behave how society believes your sex ought to act, you can't just challenge that assumption but reject society and withdrawal to an individualist island. Genderqueer doesn't mean anything because gender itself is a social construct. It reinforces the binary by positioning the binary as so absolute that the only way to not perform your role is to invent a new role held by only yourself. A woman putting on a dress and make up also reinforces the gender binary, how mad do you get about that? Actually you calling people "he" or "she" reinforces the gender binary - are you telling me you only refer to everyone as "they"? Furthermore why should people sacrifice their own comfort and emotional needs in order to uphold your idea of correct gender performance? SwimmingSpider posted:how does having a gender outside of the binary reinforce the binary. Because you see, it makes people think about gender, and that makes some people uncomfortable. "Gender is a social construct, stop caring about it" is similar to "I don't see race" as a way of shutting down discourse.
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Mar 29, 2016 02:35
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the trump tutelage posted:If you believe that individualism is too dominant an ethos in Western culture, then it follows that you may not want to indulge someone with a de facto narcissistic concern with being perceived "correctly" regardless of how they actually appear, or someone who arrogantly insists that society reshape itself to accommodate them when is they who should accommodate society. Anybody who would say this is being profoundly stupid and using too many words to say "shut up and do what society wants." A black person wants to sit at the front of the bus? How arrogant! A gay couple wants to get married? How narcissistic, accommodate society!
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the trump tutelage posted:How violent is thinking society at large does not have an ethical obligation to accommodate atypical expressions of identity? Do you think gay people should not fight for acceptance?
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