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feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Tesseraction posted:

To add to what forkboy84 said, it's worth mentioning that in the United Kingdom our Upper House can block legislation indefinitely, much like the Senate in the United States

Nope, the Lords aren't nearly that powerful and haven't been for more than a century. They can block legislation for up to one year (except the budget and then it's only a month). There's nothing in the legislation per se about special cases for legislation in a party's manifesto (the very concept of a political party isn't really a formal part of our constitution, after all), but it's a convention that the Lords not oppose such legislation because they would be explicitly defying the will of the people (who, by giving the governing party a majority despite knowing explicitly the party was going to enact this legislation, presumably approve of it).

Thank goodness, by the way; otherwise you could see the sort of deadlocks that the House of Representatives and the Senate get into from time to time. It's an embarrassment for the government if the Lords votes down their legislation because generally that only happens if the government is doing something really dumb, but if the government wants it enacted badly enough, it'll get done.

As for manifesto promises - the Liberal Democrats had in their manifesto a pledge to abolish tuition fees, then standing at 3000 pounds ($5000) a year. The instant they got into government with the Tories they instead agreed to triple them to 9000/$14000. In the 2015 election they went from having 57 seats to 8 and that broken promise was one big reason for that; people remembered. There's a reason some UK goon splashed out on :clegg:

feedmegin fucked around with this message at 12:23 on Mar 29, 2016

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