Nintendo: NX gonna give it to ya.

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Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

Will this be the Nintendo console I finally buy and no longer will I need to buy another Nintendo console just to keep playing the newest Monster Hunter?

# ¿ Mar 25, 2016 00:28

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# ¿ Apr 30, 2024 05:05

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

Same reason 360 was in the lead last time, first of the next gen to come out.

# ¿ Mar 25, 2016 01:10

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

SilverSupernova posted:

By that logic, the WiiU should have the lead now.
Also the 360 actually did have a good start for the first few years.

Nintendo left the console war to take part in the handheld war it won.

# ¿ Mar 25, 2016 01:24

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

Jonas Albrecht posted:

If phones have indeed doomed the handheld market, at least Nintendo managed to own it for the entire run.

Don't know how a phone could match the 3ds.

# ¿ Mar 25, 2016 05:14

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

Tengames posted:

You're more likely to already have a phone on you and lots of people are just fine with the games you can get on phones. Honestly phones have enough power on them that all they would need is some decent buttons and they'd make perfectly fine game devices.

either way nintendo is making phone games too now so whatever happens you'll stil get to play mario on the go anyway.

I only really played monster hunter on the 3ds, I don't think a phone could do that better because the 3ds still hasn't got that down. It really made this one time I was having my car fixed up as I sat in the waiting room for what felt like 3 hours.

# ¿ Mar 25, 2016 06:53

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

raditts posted:

You're chastising Nintendo for doing the tablet thing, but you think loving VR, which combines the worst failures of all three current console makers (Virtual Boy / Kinect / Move) is going to be the thing to take off?

VR will be interesting but there's still a huge problem. Control for movement in the games. Unless you have like a backyard the size of BF2 maps or one of those crazy hold you in place things so you can run in virtual reality, movement will feel odd.

VR walking thing, I dont know what the hell its called but good luck finding space for this.

The Vive portal game has you make portals to teleport. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbp7xX9QPOc\

Bet the games will be fine sitting down using a controller or a KB/mouse but its really just a display thing.

Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Mar 25, 2016

# ¿ Mar 25, 2016 21:31

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

Just the same thing as the 360/ps3, came out first & cheaper.

Wii couldn't compete with that, it has its own games.

# ¿ Mar 25, 2016 22:11

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

I can't wait to play Diablo 3 with a VR headset.

# ¿ Mar 26, 2016 09:10

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

Stux posted:

lets remember that nintendo's history in home consoles at this point is one of repeated mistakes and failures and any successes have come in spite of themselves.

the NES was fine, but it was also running unopposed. it had no other real competition in the home console space. but it was a fine console, it did well and nintendo marketed the thing intelligently in the US. this is literally the high point of nintendo home consoles. 62 million units sold.

the SNES was a nothing machine. it was literally a new NES. despite coming off of a generation that they had dominated, they somehow lost ground to the genesis of all things and ended up in a worse position than the generation before. already they have slipped. 50 million units sold, a drop from the NES, which itslelf isnt an issue, but the market for consoels grew at the same time. luckily for them sega was even dumber and self destructed in the following years.

next they made the dumbest loving move in the history of games and courted sony to make some dumb poo poo hybrid machine. this move was completely inexplicable. what was even more inexplicable was that after having put in so much work, they dropped sony, tried the same thing with phillips, then decided actually theyd just make their own console again. this move was akin to microsoft bailing out apple in how much it hosed them over, only somehow worse.

so they come out with the n64. it has a dumb controller, which will be a trend moving forward, it steals ideas from the sega 32x with expandable hardware (why?), it uses carts still despite them being gently caress dumb expensive and not worth it, it cant handle 3d well, the list of gently caress ups are endless. possibly the worst console they ever made on a purely technical level. along with this sony release a console, however they;re a new name in gaming, its their first real attempt at a console that will see release. this shouldnt have been a compeititon for the company that had revived a dead market in the US and was still the market leader. unfortuantely nitnendo is institutionally dumb: they sell 32 million units while the ps1 moves over 100 million, eclipsing everything theyve done in one go. all because nintendo hosed them over. good move. this is the foundation on which their future failure will be built.

next is the gamecube, probably their best attempt at a modern console. unfortunately despite actually having a technically solid console with a controller which isnt that stupid (its still pretty stupid) they failed to market it at all, they failed to get any proper software support and they failed to properly learn any lessons from the embaressment of the n64. they sell just over 20 million units while sony shifts 155 million ps2s. sony in two generations has completely and utterly taken the market from them.

then you get the wii. this shouldve been what saved them in the home console space. it had a dumb controller and gimmick, but it came at exactly the right time when people were open to it, and its implementation was great for attracting brand new gamers that no one had been able to get before. luckily these people havnt played nintendo games since the snes so their usual copy paste mario etc games sell. sony made a really dumb loving move with the ps3 and was fighting off the 360, giving nintendo a great chance to regain lost ground. unfortunately it turns out this was a complete accident, and sony arent as dumb as sega. despite selling around 100 million units and winning the generation, they had no plan or ideas for how to keep this influx of gamers on their platforms, while sony turned around the ps3 and grabbed second place. the wii succeeded in spite of nintendo and not because they expected it to.

this leads directly to the wii u, which has the worst marketing of anything ever made, leading people to think its dumb gimmick controller was just a wii add on. everyone who bought the wii moved to either sony, mobile or pc beacuse they forgot to leverage their new playerbase. they release it while everyone is anticipating the new sony and microsoft consoles which couldve been a masterstroke had they given it modern hardware and got proper third party support. unfortunately it was barely more powerful than the ps3/360 and more expensive than them, but no where near as powerful as what people were expecting from the new ps and xbox. compounded with that they forget that they need to actually make games for it and dont bother for two years. they move 10 million units, and by the time they start making games for it sony releases the ps4 which destroys it on every single level.

the NX will do exactly the same thing again. we already know it has a dumb gimmick (hybrid handheld console lmao), except this time the gimmick is "lets sacrifice our actually successful hardware to try and save our dead hardware". it'll have poo poo hardware, its alreayd been said it'll be around xbox levels, so it will be less powerful than an established console which is currently selling ridiculous numbers. it'll have no third party support despite the fact that they already know the market for their first party shovelware is around 10 million people. it will have some dumbshit name, probably one that confuses the general public, because apparently the only company in gaming able to simply pick a name and incredment numbers on it is sony. its coming out in a shortened time frame, much like the dreamcast did after the failure of the saturn. everything about it and nintendo themselves mean it will fail, and it will fail hard while taking down the DS brand with it. they cannot just make hardware no one buys forever, especially when their main competition is making a console that is profitable on every sale and more powerful, with better software, better support and better brand recognition. they will move to software, which they shouldve done after the n64 and finally die. namaste.

close this thread, its not needed anymore. put this post in the OP and pin the thread until the NX releases. RIP nintendo.

SNES was good, a good system!

# ¿ Mar 27, 2016 19:46

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

There's a huge jump between ps2-ps3-ps4 in how the system works. There's alot more that better graphics.

# ¿ Mar 27, 2016 20:19

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

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# ¿ Mar 27, 2016 22:40

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

I will buy any console nintendo sells that is the only way to play Monster Hunter. I don't care what you have to say about that.

# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 02:21

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

Cowman posted:

nintendo makes great games. All mario games are good even sunshine. zelda's been rougher though.

Doesn't help the last good Zelda was on SNES.

# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 18:33

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

PS4 is good but you know they should really make some games worth playing on it.

# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 18:38

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

Stux posted:

all the GOTY candidates for the year are on ps4. enjoy.

Its cool, they also came out on the PC.

Also Link to the Past is the best zelda game.

# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 20:58

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

Stux posted:

i didnt know that nier 2, persona 5 and the last guardian are coming to pc. wow amazing!!

Nice straw man, now were doing future game of the year comparisons now?

How can you even be sure that the arrival of American Civil War 2:Trump saga, will even allow for the importation of any foriegn games?

# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 21:17

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

Stux posted:

thats literally what i said in the post u quoted. candidates for the year. this year.

Its been like 3 months this year, theres no goty yet.

# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 21:23

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

Lady Naga posted:

Do you know what a "candidate" is

Its way to early to even bother naming candidates.

Name me the ps4 exclusives already chosen as goty candidates?

# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 21:25

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

Stux posted:

i already did jesus christ.

Nier 2: unreleased
Persona 5: unreleased, Suicide is bad ok, Persona is bad
Last guardian: unreleased

Good list of ps4 games released already.

# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 21:29

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

Lol, if you don't think The Witcher 3 was the clear winner.

# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 21:30

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

Bloodborne sucked, lovely action souls, next.

# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 21:31

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

Lets see just how much its talked about after April when its not the newest release from software.

# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 21:32

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

Lady Naga posted:

its actually weird that golden joystick voted for noted bad game ds 2 in 2014 but last year witcher won over bloodborne

It had one of those story things going on. You know where they tell you what is happening.

# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 21:34

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

Stux posted:

really weird point to make that from softwares releases just go from strength to strength imo

This is actually pretty true except with Bloodborne, which was a huge step back because Miyaka wanted to make a lovely action souls.

# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 21:35

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

Stux posted:

they're all out on seperate years so we dont have to thankfully. each souls game is GOTY in the year it was released

Demons souls wasn't.

# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 21:38

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

The extreme limit of wisdom, that's what the public calls madness.

# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 21:43

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

I think Stux took a short break to eat a few bags of Cheetos and drink some Mountain Dew.

# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 22:22

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

FactsAreUseless posted:

You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

I pmed you a super important question!

# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 23:21

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# ¿ Apr 30, 2024 05:05

Tenzarin: Jul 24, 2007; .; Taco Defender

What if its a phone that plays nintendo games?

# ¿ Apr 7, 2016 18:34

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