Nintendo: NX gonna give it to ya.

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romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

it has bloodborne, which is enough

# ¿ Mar 25, 2016 05:37

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# ¿ May 3, 2024 04:44

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

Stux posted:

lets remember that nintendo's history in home consoles at this point is one of repeated mistakes and failures and any successes have come in spite of themselves.

the NES was fine, but it was also running unopposed. it had no other real competition in the home console space. but it was a fine console, it did well and nintendo marketed the thing intelligently in the US. this is literally the high point of nintendo home consoles. 62 million units sold.

the SNES was a nothing machine. it was literally a new NES. despite coming off of a generation that they had dominated, they somehow lost ground to the genesis of all things and ended up in a worse position than the generation before. already they have slipped. 50 million units sold, a drop from the NES, which itslelf isnt an issue, but the market for consoels grew at the same time. luckily for them sega was even dumber and self destructed in the following years.

next they made the dumbest loving move in the history of games and courted sony to make some dumb poo poo hybrid machine. this move was completely inexplicable. what was even more inexplicable was that after having put in so much work, they dropped sony, tried the same thing with phillips, then decided actually theyd just make their own console again. this move was akin to microsoft bailing out apple in how much it hosed them over, only somehow worse.

so they come out with the n64. it has a dumb controller, which will be a trend moving forward, it steals ideas from the sega 32x with expandable hardware (why?), it uses carts still despite them being gently caress dumb expensive and not worth it, it cant handle 3d well, the list of gently caress ups are endless. possibly the worst console they ever made on a purely technical level. along with this sony release a console, however they;re a new name in gaming, its their first real attempt at a console that will see release. this shouldnt have been a compeititon for the company that had revived a dead market in the US and was still the market leader. unfortuantely nitnendo is institutionally dumb: they sell 32 million units while the ps1 moves over 100 million, eclipsing everything theyve done in one go. all because nintendo hosed them over. good move. this is the foundation on which their future failure will be built.

next is the gamecube, probably their best attempt at a modern console. unfortunately despite actually having a technically solid console with a controller which isnt that stupid (its still pretty stupid) they failed to market it at all, they failed to get any proper software support and they failed to properly learn any lessons from the embaressment of the n64. they sell just over 20 million units while sony shifts 155 million ps2s. sony in two generations has completely and utterly taken the market from them.

then you get the wii. this shouldve been what saved them in the home console space. it had a dumb controller and gimmick, but it came at exactly the right time when people were open to it, and its implementation was great for attracting brand new gamers that no one had been able to get before. luckily these people havnt played nintendo games since the snes so their usual copy paste mario etc games sell. sony made a really dumb loving move with the ps3 and was fighting off the 360, giving nintendo a great chance to regain lost ground. unfortunately it turns out this was a complete accident, and sony arent as dumb as sega. despite selling around 100 million units and winning the generation, they had no plan or ideas for how to keep this influx of gamers on their platforms, while sony turned around the ps3 and grabbed second place. the wii succeeded in spite of nintendo and not because they expected it to.

this leads directly to the wii u, which has the worst marketing of anything ever made, leading people to think its dumb gimmick controller was just a wii add on. everyone who bought the wii moved to either sony, mobile or pc beacuse they forgot to leverage their new playerbase. they release it while everyone is anticipating the new sony and microsoft consoles which couldve been a masterstroke had they given it modern hardware and got proper third party support. unfortunately it was barely more powerful than the ps3/360 and more expensive than them, but no where near as powerful as what people were expecting from the new ps and xbox. compounded with that they forget that they need to actually make games for it and dont bother for two years. they move 10 million units, and by the time they start making games for it sony releases the ps4 which destroys it on every single level.

the NX will do exactly the same thing again. we already know it has a dumb gimmick (hybrid handheld console lmao), except this time the gimmick is "lets sacrifice our actually successful hardware to try and save our dead hardware". it'll have poo poo hardware, its alreayd been said it'll be around xbox levels, so it will be less powerful than an established console which is currently selling ridiculous numbers. it'll have no third party support despite the fact that they already know the market for their first party shovelware is around 10 million people. it will have some dumbshit name, probably one that confuses the general public, because apparently the only company in gaming able to simply pick a name and incredment numbers on it is sony. its coming out in a shortened time frame, much like the dreamcast did after the failure of the saturn. everything about it and nintendo themselves mean it will fail, and it will fail hard while taking down the DS brand with it. they cannot just make hardware no one buys forever, especially when their main competition is making a console that is profitable on every sale and more powerful, with better software, better support and better brand recognition. they will move to software, which they shouldve done after the n64 and finally die. namaste.

close this thread, its not needed anymore. put this post in the OP and pin the thread until the NX releases. RIP nintendo.

who cares

# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 00:37

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

BurntCornMuffin posted:

I liked TP, but I thought the ending was streaming got garbage.

FOR FUCKS SAKE GANONDORF STOP SCREAMING AND DIE! WTF ZANT I KILLED YOU TOO WHY ARE YOU HERE?! WTF I STABBED HIM WHY WAS THE TRANSDIMENSIONAL NECK SNAP NECESSARY? WHY HAS GANONDORF NOT FALLEN DOWN YET, HE'S DEAD! STOP STANDING YOU DEAD FUCKWIT! NO STOP CUTTING TO BLACK HE'S STILL STANDING! WHO THE gently caress WRITES A SCENE WHERE FINAL BOSS GETS STABBED, TRANSDIMENSIONALLY NECK SNAPPED BY A DEAD GUY AND DOESN'T HAVE THE DECENCY TO KEEL THE gently caress OVER WITH HIS LAST BREATH?!? Oh right Nintendo.

dude chill

# ¿ Jul 8, 2016 16:24

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

this sounds cool but what is the point of the detachable controllers

e: oh nevermind i didn't realize that you supposedly put the console on a docking station lol

# ¿ Jul 26, 2016 16:43

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

i hope the controllers have those clickable scroll wheels that have been rumored because that sounds like a good idea

# ¿ Jul 26, 2016 17:12

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

Instant Sunrise posted:

You are defending resistive touch screens.

Try using the Wii U gamepad's touch screen when your stylus fell between the couch cushions and tell me that resistive touch is better than capacitative touch.

i would say just use your fingernail but i honestly don't know if fat fingers prevent that from being a viable option for most gamers. i don't think so tho

# ¿ Jul 26, 2016 17:15

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

nigga crab pollock posted:

how long are your god drat fingernails???

me irl

but for real you just gotta bend your finger a little, obviously it's not as intuitive as using your finger tip but it's not particularly uncomfortable or difficult or anything

# ¿ Jul 26, 2016 17:40

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

Boten Anna posted:

calm down dude I'm not posting my wishlist I'm posting what I think Nintendo might do. You don't need to get so offended by speculation.

Anyway they already got video streaming working for a portable device not attached the the console, pretty sure they can do it again. It might not be video streaming either, it might just fuckin connect to a full on iOS/Android app that just communicates state back and forth like any other networked game. Both might be capable depending on the software. Maybe its some weird hybrid where your device's power is added to the NX's so it just kind of runs both screens using gpu draw so it's not a straight video stream but an assisted gpu render. It might be some other gimmick entirely that has nothing to do with connecting to android/ios devices.

Like I don't believe I'm right or that any of this is a good idea, it's just speculation based on what we know or assume so far.

I don't think so, no. Nintendo can keep a lot of dumb poo poo close to their chest but "hey we're making the nVidia shield using the same chips the nVidia shield did but like, with a controller mount" is not gimmick enough for them to think everyone wants to steal it even using Nintendo Logic. There's another gimmick at play, and I can't promise you it will be a good one or one that you like, but there will be one.

hmm, nah

# ¿ Jul 29, 2016 04:46

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

Steve2911 posted:

So if the EG stuff is true, Breath of the Wild is probably going to be the most technologically impressive game we see on the system ever, and may look and play worse than the Wii U version.

I don't like this.

'Nintendo might get their 10 year old games running on it'. Good sign.

please don't troll

# ¿ Jul 31, 2016 17:06

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

MechaCrash posted:

At this point I just think it's funny that everybody pounced on the coin purse so hard that nobody noticed "two 3DSes." Maybe because it was just assumed that it's an American one and a Japanese one? Which is the case, of course, but still, I thought someone would've asked about that part, at least. Iwata said, and I summarize, "region locking was a mistake because it doesn't actually help the customer," so I'm hoping the NX isn't region locked.

But if you must know, the coin purse is to hold pennies because I want to keep them away from the other coins. If I need some pennies, I don't want to have to rifle through quarters, and vice versa. And I only have four or five other coins, usually, and I can and do spend those. Pennies are a bit harder to get rid of, and there's more of them because I use them as counters in card games. It's not one of those old lady style coin purses with the clasp, it's one of those squeezy deals and it doesn't carry all that much. I have it because one of my uncles gave it to me so I figured eh, gently caress it, why not. I only have three dice, which isn't enough for a bag, and I carry them mostly because gently caress it why not, with a dose of habit on top. They're pretty small d6es, after all, and don't take up much room.

this is bullshit you're lying

# ¿ Aug 7, 2016 20:31

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

s.i.r.e. posted:

Fools and their money and all that.

you paid money to post on an internet forum

# ¿ Aug 9, 2016 19:24

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

the gamepad probably should have been a $100 peripheral for off screen play that i still would have bought cause it rocks

# ¿ Aug 10, 2016 02:42

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

Real hurthling! posted:

sega does what nintendon't joke didn't connect like it thought it would

i thought it was funny

# ¿ Aug 18, 2016 05:56

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

no see nintendo fucks up their marketing EVERY time because nintendo smh. if only i was in charge

# ¿ Aug 28, 2016 14:45

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

the changes feel a lot more pronounced when you take a 15 year break between gold & silver and x & y

romanowski fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Sep 11, 2016

# ¿ Sep 11, 2016 15:49

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

TheScott2K posted:

I don't know why people want an open world Pokemans game when open world games are the loving worst.

i think a lot of the times when people say "open world" they really just mean non-linear. i mean maybe not but i think it would be cool if you started in a town in the center of the map and then had several directions you could choose to go, but i guess that kind of clashes with the nature of the rpg elements and a progressive difficulty

# ¿ Sep 11, 2016 18:51

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

i hope that subscription model is true so that i can get a free nx then cancel my subscription and just buy games normally

e: or rent them or borrow them from friends which would make more sense look either way it's dumb

romanowski fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Sep 13, 2016

# ¿ Sep 13, 2016 18:08

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

nintendo is really hurting me feelings here i'm not even going to lie

# ¿ Oct 3, 2016 16:33

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

all right nintendo let's mother fuckin do this. let's get some nx info. i'm ready bring it on baby

# ¿ Oct 4, 2016 02:18

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

somebody just leak the drat thing already!!!

# ¿ Oct 10, 2016 20:52

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

tomorrow, our long national nightmare will be over

# ¿ Oct 20, 2016 05:08

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

Toady posted:

You're so weird.

he's right though lol, the vast majority of the people who watch that video do not give a gently caress about framerate and the people who even noticed it in the first place are fundamentally broken

# ¿ Oct 20, 2016 20:15

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

Toady posted:

"People who notice framerates are fundamentally broken." - Another surreal SA Nintendo thread

i meant people who noticed it in that video and i stand by it

# ¿ Oct 20, 2016 20:21

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

loquacius posted:

Now that we're done with that, can we address my very serious concerns regarding this reveal trailer, like the fact that nobody in real life actually plays video games with a look on their face like they're jizzing their pants over and over even if they're playing a really good game on an exciting new console

actually i thought the portrayals in this video of the type of people who play nintendo games was EXTREMELY accurate and i pick up girls in the airport while playing zelda all the time

# ¿ Oct 20, 2016 20:24

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

i can't really imagine how kids could lose the controllers when out and about since they'll almost certainly be playing the system with the controllers attached anyway but maybe i'm giving children too much credit

# ¿ Oct 28, 2016 22:57

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

Cojawfee posted:

Have you been around kids? It would be super easy for them to take the controllers off to play Mario Kart or whatever and then get distracted, put the controllers down and go play on a slide or something and then lose the whole system.

that's not an issue that's caused by the existence of detachable controllers, though. if kids are gonna lose the system then they're gonna lose it but i'm not really sure that saying "kids will lose the detachable parts" is that valid a criticism

# ¿ Oct 29, 2016 01:34

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:

I genuinely don't understand the appeal of wireless controllers. Having to worry about charging and battery levels so that you can... walk around the house while you play? I dunno.

lol jesus

# ¿ Oct 29, 2016 17:51

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

i don't really get the appeal of wireless controllers either though because you can't use them to strangle your friends when they beat you in mario kart

# ¿ Oct 29, 2016 17:52

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

Real hurthling! posted:

i never got to play skys of arcadia so i am looking forward to that maybe.

it is extremely good

# ¿ Dec 8, 2016 05:12

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

Waltzing Along posted:

Hmm...what are the main cities in the US?

New York. Check.
LA. Check.
Chicago. Check.
SF. Check.
DC? questionable.

DC is the capital of the free world my friend

# ¿ Dec 14, 2016 05:02

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

i only ever gave a poo poo about zelda anyway

# ¿ Jan 13, 2017 06:06

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

sarcastx posted:

Compared to WWHD the game had become much harder (I died a lot,)

i suppose it's possible to die a lot in twilight princess if you've never played a video game before but clearly you have so i am perplexed by this bizarre statement

# ¿ Feb 4, 2017 00:25

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

Bleck posted:

a Zelda and a Mario in the same year is better than the Wii U got, and better than most Nintendo consoles in general iirc

the gamecube got a zelda, mario, AND metroid in a span of seven months. crazy

# ¿ Feb 4, 2017 08:53

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

LethalGeek posted:

I checked out of SS immediately after seeing the first 20 minutes online and it was oh boy sit around in a town talking to NPCs and doing masked tutorials. I couldn't go through that again after TP's 4 hours of slog.

Remember the first Zelda? Here's a sword, go defeat evil! Sure it's 30 years later and we're not going to blindly throw the player into the game and tell them good luck but holy hell the Wii ones went way too far in the other direction and it just kills it. I really hope this is like most open games where you spend the first 20 minutes getting a feel of what's happening and a direction to go in to... Go Defeat Evil! And find neat toys to better to defeat evil with!

the game opens with link waking up in a room with a couple of chests to teach you that you can equip clothing and then a small wall to teach you that you can climb things and then you're on your own so i think we'll be good this time

# ¿ Feb 4, 2017 19:34

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

dear thread please contact me directly the next time a retailer has pre-orders available. thanks

# ¿ Feb 8, 2017 00:57

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

glassyalabolas posted:

nowinstock.net

my man

# ¿ Feb 8, 2017 01:22

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

Viewtiful Jew posted:

Oh man talk about a blast from a Link to the Past:

https://twitter.com/arpeggiotrash/status/833534268479508480

I remember when the guy who wrote that had a literal meltdown over the first Wind Waker trailer.

A lot of fans really wanted this franchise about fighting a giant pig man to be this super serious and tragic epic that would prove games could be art.

one of my e-mails from when i was 10 years old is on that site

# ¿ Feb 23, 2017 01:29

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# ¿ May 3, 2024 04:44

romanowski: Nov 10, 2012

the early word on breath of the wild is that it's the best game ever made

# ¿ Feb 24, 2017 05:54

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